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03.15.08 -- 10:49PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (109)

Catching On?

A while back we noted that top Clinton advisor Harold Ickes had admonished the press not to use the phrase "super delegates" but instead to employ what he claims is the more accurate "automatic delegates." The Clinton campaign has pushed for this change of phrase on the thinking that calling them "super delegates" carries a negative connotation that somehow they're more powerful or privileges than other delegates. And that's important because their path to the nomination will almost certainly have to rely on super delegates going overwhelmingly for Clinton despite Obama's having the majority of pledged delegates.

Got that?

Anyway, has the AP gotten the message? In tonight's AP report about Obama's new delegates in Iowa reporter Mike Glover has adopted the Clinton campaign "automatic delegate" formulation.

Now, sometimes spinning campaigns come up with phrases that are so heavy-handedness and tendentious that it's just ridiculous -- the "death tax", "personal accounts" for Social Security privatization, etc. In this case, I think you've probably got to have your head pretty deep in the delegat-ology weeds to have any sense of whether it matters to use one term over another.

But I think it's a good journalistic principle not to switch terminology in the midst of an election campaign or public policy debate at the bidding of one party or another, unless someone makes an extremely good case that the existing word choices are patently misleading. And doing it at the behest of one party to the dispute is almost always bad practice. Otherwise the journalists whose job it is to sift through the spin become its messengers, wittingly or not.

--Josh Marshall

03.15.08 -- 7:31PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (88)

Rejiggering the Math

I mentioned last week that we should pay close attention to those county and state conventions in the caucus states, because in many cases the delegate numbers we're working with now are only estimates subject to these later conventions where the real decisions are actually made. Now comes news out of Iowa that after the county conventions that met today Barack Obama appears to be on track to net seven additional delegates out of the state.

From what the article says, the pick up does not appear to be directly at the expense of Sen. Clinton but rather a result of picking up support of a large percentage of the delegates John Edwards won back in January.

To give some context to these numbers, Sen. Clinton's final net delegate haul out of her decisive win in Ohio was only 9 delegates.

--Josh Marshall

03.15.08 -- 12:39PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (60)

Tea Leaves

Rasmussen's daily tracking poll of the Dem race shows a sizeable tightening of the race -- from an 8 point Obama lead to a 1 point lead in a single day. It could be noise or the first sign of damage from the Wright imbroglio.

--Josh Marshall

03.15.08 -- 11:23AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (21)

Money, Money, Money

Top Hillary fundraiser pressures Dean to "exercise some leadership" on Florida and Michigan.

--Josh Marshall

03.15.08 -- 12:10AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (31)

Time or Geography?

TPM Reader EM writes ...

I keep hearing people say that Obama's percentage of the white vote is decreasing markedly, including David Brooks on The NewsHour, and Michael Duffy on Washington Week (sorry--old habits). I haven't seen stats on this, but I just did a little non-mathematician math. If, as I've heard reported more than once, 25% of Hillary's MS vote was Limbaugh Republicans, the white vote that would actually support a Democrat looks somewhat different. The total vote was 420,751, and Hillary got 38% or around 160,000 votes. Give her the 10% of the black vote that she won and take away the Limbaugh votes, and that leaves her with around 120,000 white Democratic votes. Give Obama his 25% of the white vote, and that comes to about 65,000 white votes for him. The percentages? about 65% Clinton white, non-Limbaugh votes, 35% Obama white votes. That's not a great number for Obama, but it's considerably better than the one getting play.

Speaking for myself I think this 'Limbaugh Democrat' line is an interpretive rathole which is at best self-serving and mainly a distraction from the reality of all elections which is how many votes each candidate got. But you don't have to get into this Limbaugh stuff to see why this decreasing white vote theory is nonsense. Perhaps there are national polls that show Obama with a decreasing share of the white vote though the aggregate national polls from Gallup and Rasmussen show no sign of it. But to draw this conclusion on the basis of the vote in Mississippi is to show an almost perverse ignorance of the country's history.

Mississippi is arguably the most racially polarized state in the US. Two or three other Deep South states certainly give it a run for its money. But given the state's history and political present it should not surprise anyone that the primary results were as polarized as they were (Whites -- Clinton 70%, Obama 26%; Blacks Clinton 8%, Obama 92%). The difference here isn't one of change over time; it's change over geography. When Hillary and Obama go up against each other in the most racially polarized state in the country, you're going to get a really racially polarized result.

That's not a mystery. It's a statement of the obvious.

It's true that neighboring Alabama is similar to Mississippi in many ways. So how much did things change between Alabama on Super Tuesday and Mississippi this week?

Not a lot. Among white voters, Clinton did even better than she did in Mississippi, beating Obama 72% to 25%. Figuring in the margin of error in the exit polls themselves, those numbers are identical. But if you want to look at the exact numbers, it's actually Clinton whose numbers among white voters ever so slightly diminished.

Maybe the deterioration will start now. Who knows? But based on the information available to date, the theory is nonsense, a product of reporters who don't bother to come up to speed on the politics in the different states in question.

--Josh Marshall

03.14.08 -- 5:48PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (103)

A Modest Snarkposal

From TPM Reader EM ...

What drives me crazy is how this could have been avoided so easily if Wright was the slightest bit media-savvy. Had he merely controlled his tongue and limited himself to advocating an attack on Iran to encourage massive worldwide Muslim attacks leading to a fulfillment of the biblical prophecy of end-times and bringing about Armageddon and the summary slaughter of every Jew, Muslim, Catholic, and non-believer on the planet while rapturing him and his flock up to heaven, then followed it up by denouncing Catholics as cult members and blaming Hurricane Katrina on gay people, this story wouldn't be metastasizing like this. One five minute milquetoast repudiation by Obama and it would all be behind him.

But what does Wright do instead? He spews this vile "God damn America" bile. What a psycho.

--Josh Marshall

03.14.08 -- 5:01PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (68)

Obama Responds

Obama responds to the Wright controversy at Huffpo.

--Josh Marshall

03.15.08 -- 1:00PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (69)

TPMtv: Clip Show Extravaganza #7

More on Mitt Romney's dog fixation, Mark Penn loses his remaining dignity, and Lou Dobbs loses his mind, all in today's episode of TPMtv ...

Watch this episode on YouTube.

--Josh Marshall

03.14.08 -- 3:51PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (12)

Six Weeks of Expectations Massaging

According to a well-placed Election Central source, Obama has personally told donors that losing Pennsylvania by less than 10 points will be a "victory."

--David Kurtz

03.14.08 -- 3:00PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (44)

As long as we're at it, TPM Reader DZ ...

A couple of points:

1. As an Orthodox Jew, I have heard pulpit rabbis say some offensive things -- and I'm not talking about things that are part of normative Jewish law like rules regarding gentiles -- but all sorts of thoedicy-type claims about why God allowed particular tragedies to occur, usually involving very Jew-centric views of the world and often ascribing the worst of intentions to gentiles or non-Orthodox Jews. Nonetheless, I never felt the inclination to walk out mid-speech or cut my ties to my synagogue or the rabbi himself. Maybe I am applying a double standard here, but to me my rabbi's political views are just one narrow aspect of a broad relationship I have with both him and the institution he leads. Based on Obama's statements, I assume that this is Obama's view of his relationship with Wright.

2. The question is whether Obama should be doing more. One option is for him to give a Speech sort of like the one Romney gave regarding Mormonism. The reason why this might be successful is that it is precisely Obama's oratory that has given me and many others the comfort that he doesn't agree with Wright's views. He did this most clearly in his convention speech where he convincingly painted a picture of national unity and togetherness transcending race and religion that is so contrary to Wright's views. I think he can give a speech touching on the same themes while at the same time explicitly rejecting Wright's views and explaining his relationship. Given Obama's strength as an orator, I think it can only help.

--Josh Marshall

03.14.08 -- 2:43PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (35)

And now TPM Reader KB ...

Don't over react to this pastor stuff. Yeah, it's problematic. But Obama has said he does not agree with everything the guy has said. And if he needs to make a stronger statement I'm sure he will at some point. But right now reading TPM is like watching a focus group of DLC democrats freak out every time Sean Hannity goes boo! Please calm down and buck up. The phrase "death blow" from that reader email is just so off base. Right now Obama is still the odds on favorite for the nomination, and still the favorite in November. This is another complication that requires a smart media strategy. That's the category of storm we are dealing with. This too shall pass.

--Josh Marshall

03.14.08 -- 2:32PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (13)

Vote Bamboozlers Don't Fade Away

Vote-suppression guru Hans von Spakovsky is out of government, but he's still on the "voter fraud" (read, minority disenfranchisement) case.

--David Kurtz

03.14.08 -- 2:16PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (8)

House Dems Pass FISA Bill

The pro-civil-liberties Democratic version of the surveillance bill just passed the House.

The final vote was 213-195.

There are all sorts of things about this version that are better than the White House/Senate Dem version, not least of which is no telecom immunity.

Late Update: The final tally has been revised to 213-197.

--David Kurtz

03.14.08 -- 2:05PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (48)

Au Contraire

TPM Reader JS responds to JB ...

I go to church every Sunday, and frankly, I never received the memo that says you're obligated to agree with everything that a pastor says in a sermon. I thought the idea that you're allowed to actually disagree with him or her is inherently "American". So what's JB's problem, again? Let me get this straight. This guy JB is switching his vote from Obama to Clinton because Obama's pastor, from whom he's publicly disagreed on repeated occasions, made inflammatory remarks during a sermon in a service that Obama never attended. Can we please try to wrap our minds around the stupidity of that notion? If JB loved America as much as he apparently claims, he'd take his vote a hell of a lot more seriously than that.

Late Update: TPM Reader JM:

Agree wholeheartedly with JS, and completely fail to understand the hyperventilation over this issue. I mean, I saw Chris Matthews (Chris Matthews!) on the Today Show this morning saying that everyone knows that this guy doesn't represent Obama's views and that voters understand that you shouldn't necessarily be held accountable for everything and anything any of your associates utters in public. You know you're deep in the weeds when Tweety is your voice of reason.

I think that this drawn-out primary season is starting to drive people nuts.

and TPM Reader MM:

Oh Good Lord,

The problem with we Democrats is that every new issue that comes up gets us running around in circles, flapping our hands and screaming that the sky is falling.

A big part of why I voted for Obama is that he is NOT like that -- he stays cool under pressure, and he plays the long game.

The Wright thing will get worked out. The candidacy will survive. Obama is not John Kerry (he's a much more gifted politician, for one thing, and a better strategist).

Bottom line: we have two strong candidates who are in a real struggle for the nomination. Interest in the election is the highest it's been in years. That's healthy in a democracy. Much healthier than the kind of easy coronation we've gotten used to.

Everybody take a deep breath. The sky is still firmly overhead.

--Josh Marshall

03.14.08 -- 1:37PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (120)

Is Wright a "Death Blow" to Obama?

Like a number of emailers, TPM Reader JB is wringing his hands over Obama's Rev. Wright:

The Wright time bomb appears to be detonating, now that the horse race narrative has stalled and the media needs new material. The inadequacy of Obama's response is deeply discouraging. I was very excited about Obama, but I suddenly think Wright is going to deal a death blow to him on the "electibility" front. Michelle Obama's comments and now the man who lead him to Jesus is saying "God Damn America", and all BO can say is "I disagree"? He has to thow him under the bus and then back up over him again, but it does not appear that he will. Not clear it would even help that much, given the depth and length of their relationship. Sad to say, but it's best this happen now rather than in October. As distasteful as her tactics have been, I suddenly think we may be better off in November with Hillary. Wright is cancer.
Late Update: TPM Reader KR defends JB:
No, no, no. JS doesn't get it. JB wasn't saying he's switching his vote at all, and certainly not because Obama's pastor made inflammatory remakrs during a sermon. JB is saying, equite accurately, that the Wright issue is a potential death blow to Obama's campaign unless Obama deals more forcefully with it than Obama has to date. What I think JB is saying is that the Wright problem will suck all the air out of this month long gap until the Pennsylvania primary, not to mention provide the GOP with all the ammo they need if BO gets the nomination. And actually, I'm quite surprised you just posted JS's email without mentioning yourself any of those (seemingly obvious) points.

TPM Reader MS foresees this line of attack:

Imagine this 30 second ad, run heavily next October. I think it would be devastating among undecided and swing voters.

"What does Barack Obama really believe in? His spritual teacher for 20 years has been Jeremiah Wright. Wright wedded Obama & his wife. Obama named his book from a sermon of Wright's. [insert video of favorable comment about Wright by Obama]. What has Jeremiah Wright taught Obama? [Insert rabid clip of Wright capped by "God Damn America!! God Damn America!!"] We need a solid patriot to lead our nation. Someone we can trust. Vote John McCain 2008."

--David Kurtz

03.14.08 -- 1:32PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (34)

LIQUIDITY CRISIS

JPMorgan and the Fed are forced to bail out Bear Stearns.

--David Kurtz

03.14.08 -- 1:16PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (1)

Mississippi Justice

Trial lawyer Richard "Dickie" Scruggs unexpectedly pleads guilty to bribing judge.

--David Kurtz

03.14.08 -- 12:47PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (10)

If McCain Loses, the Terrorists Win

McCain: I "worry" that al Qaeda will attack in Iraq to tip election against me.

--David Kurtz

03.14.08 -- 10:28AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (8)

Take 2 in Michigan

Obama's Michigan co-chair tells TPM Election Central that there's "a lot of momentum" behind a do-over primary there.

--David Kurtz

03.14.08 -- 9:33AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (6)

Today's Must Read

President Bush personally intervenes in EPA decision on ozone.

--David Kurtz

03.14.08 -- 1:25AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (16)

Oy ... Not Good

From the Times ...

Federal prosecutors are investigating whether Gov. Eliot Spitzer used campaign funds in connection with his meetings with prostitutes, including payments for hotels or ground transportation, three people with knowledge of the investigation said.

Prosecutors have asked the governor’s lawyers about the travel arrangements for three trips, including his Feb. 13 rendezvous with a prostitute at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington. The United States attorney’s office in Manhattan has also asked about the governor’s use of car services during trips to Washington.

The governor’s lawyers have begun consulting with a campaign finance expert who has long worked for Mr. Spitzer’s political organization to see whether campaign money was spent on the trips, including some as recently as last month, a person briefed on the investigation said.

--Josh Marshall

03.13.08 -- 11:31PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (29)

Don't Get It

Matt Cooper has a good post at Portfolio about the unfolding, ever-expanding Ferraro trainwreck. Like Cooper, it wasn't really the first thing Ferraro said or even the second. It took till the third round before I really got a sense of what she wasn't thinking. It became most clear in the chat show appearances where she said, I think in all seriousness, that Obama should have thanked her for saying what she said.

At a certain point I realized that for all the ancillary nonsense Ferraro is simply not capable of seeing Obama's campaign as anything but an African-American favorite son candidacy. Once you get that everything seems to fall into place.

Here's our show from Wednesday with some choice examples from her chat show marathon ...

Watch this episode on YouTube.

--Josh Marshall

03.13.08 -- 10:45PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (30)

Bush

From the AP ...

Antique store owners in lower Manhattan, ticket vendors at India's Taj Mahal and Brazilian business executives heading to China all have one thing in common these days: They don't want U.S. dollars.

Hit by a free fall with no end in sight, the once mighty U.S. dollar is no longer just crashing on currency markets and making life more expensive for American tourists and business people abroad; its clout is evaporating worldwide as foreign businesses and individuals turn to other currencies.

Experts say the bleak U.S. economic forecast means it will take years for the greenback to recover its value and prestige.

Negative dollar sentiment is growing in nations where the dollar was historically accepted as equal or better than local currency — and dollar aversion is even extending to some quarters in the United States.

--Josh Marshall

03.13.08 -- 7:32PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (19)

And Yet More

One of the most popular reader bloggers at the new TPMCafe is FlyOnTneWall and he/she has some thoughts on the Wright matter too.

--Josh Marshall

03.13.08 -- 6:38PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (55)

TPM Reader MO sees the writing on the wall ...

I have to point this out, Josh. Personal comments about Hillary and notwithstanding the Ferraro/Race flap that has permeated throughout this campaign, this Wright fellow troubles me more than anything. Not only the fact that he is Obama’s mentor and Obama has been going to this church for twenty years, but to make a statement such as “God Damn America” will be a brush fire that will be uncontrollable to contain. The GOP will piece that with Obama’s different take on ways to display patriotism and they will run him into the ground in the GE. Should he distance himself and force Wright (someone that loyal) out, then Obama is ready to be Commander in Chief. If not, he has the same loyalty issues as Hillary has with Mark Penn (in my opinion, her campaign’s greatest flaw).

TPM Reader TB responds ...

TPM Reader MO...Obama's "mentor"?

Why is the Clinton Campaign is allowed to pound this argument that if she beats him in Pa., he can't beat McCain there in the fall, when the truth is that because of her sky high negatives, she is at a
disadvantage compared to Obama in a general election, and even though she can beat him in that state, for reasons I leave you to consider, the same polls give Obama a better chance against McCain.

This new media fascination with the pastor of Obama's church is just a new section of the Orchestra playing the racial theme.

And finally TPM Reader JS ...

As much as I don't like this stuff, as an Obama supporter, he desperately needs to address this forcefully now so please press the issue in every way you can and make the Obama campaign know that even his supporters are going to lose faith in him if he doesn't come out soon and denounce AND reject this stuff ASAP.

--Josh Marshall

03.13.08 -- 5:00PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (17)

Will the Misery Never End?

Hillary agrees to what would be the 964th debate of the 2008 campaign, in Pennsylvania.

Late Update: It gets worse. Obama has accepted and proposes yet another debate, this one in North Carolina, with Katie Couric moderating.

Eyes. Glazing. Over.

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 4:11PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (30)

The New Guv

From NY Mag (via FP Passport):

Paterson also displayed a rather awesome sense of humor. "Just so we don't have to go through this whole resignation thing again," one ballsy reporter asked, "have you ever patronized a prostitute?" Paterson thought for a minute. "Only the lobbyists," he said.

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 7:07PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (22)

TPMtv: Campaign '08 Roundup #16

With almost six weeks until the next primary and with tensions already at a feverish peak, what will the Clinton and Obama campaigns focus their attentions on from now until Pennsylvania? We preview the long slog until the Keystone State in today's '08 Roundup edition of TPMtv ...

Watch this episode on YouTube.

--Ben Craw

03.13.08 -- 2:46PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (9)

Trying to Get the Loser Label to Stick

Mark Penn: Pennsylvania will show that "Senator Obama really can't win the general election."

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 2:42PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (4)

GOP Bookkeeping

How bad are the financial irregularities at the NRCC?

Here's a sampling:

* At year end 2006, the NRCC’s actual cash on hand was approximately $990,000 less than the amount reported to the FEC.

* The actual cash on hand as of the NRCC’s most recent FEC report for January 31, 2008 (filed on February 20, 2008) was $740,000 less than the amount reported to the FEC.

Paul Kiel has more.

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 2:40PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (3)

Pelosi: "The President Is Wrong And He Knows It"

Nancy Pelosi pops the President back on FISA.

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 1:23PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (5)

Steven Waldman: What did the founding fathers believe about church and state?

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 11:18AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (33)

What Ferraro Might Say

TPMCafe Reader CSCS: NY Gov-in-waiting Paterson is "lucky" he's black and blind.

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 10:49AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (4)

Today's Must Read

"Stop playing politics with the past," President Bush cried this morning, as the House prepares to vote later today on the Administration-unfriendly version of the surveillance bill -- which offers no telecom immunity.

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 10:41AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (10)

Quote of the Day

Retiring Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-VA): "The House Republican brand is so bad right now that if it were a dog food, they'd take it off the shelf."

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 9:52AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (7)

Howard Metzenbaum, 1917-2008

Retired Sen. Howard Metzenbaum (D-OH) dies at age 90.

--David Kurtz

03.13.08 -- 11:56AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (114)

Tell It Like It Is

This morning Obama's former pastor Jeremiah Wright is in the news again. They did a segment on him on Good Morning America. And the main attention is to a video that has surfaced of a sermon Wright gave in January. Fox News got it and here you can see it on Ben Smith's blog at The Politico. It's racially charged and will certainly get a lot of play, though I'm not sure there's much in it that doesn't come out of the sermon tradition of African-American Christianity with a 60s twist. Last week, Obama, who has denounced various of Wright's statements, told a Jewish audience, Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with." Watch it yourself and make your own judgments. For myself, when watching something like this, it is often difficult to distinguish between what I actually find offensive myself and what it is ingrained in me to believe others will find offensive. He's certainly not doing Obama any favors by talking like this about Obama in the midst of this campaign. Particulars aside, the political relevance is to show Wright as angry black man; and to tie him to Obama.

If Obama's the nominee, we will see no end of this kind of stuff. And there's probably some small benefit of getting a preview. But the simple fact is that we wouldn't be seeing this stuff now if it weren't for the fact that this is the kind of campaign Hillary Clinton's campaign has decided to wage -- often directly and at other times indirectly by not reining it in in her supporters when it crops up on its own. Wright is news today because Ferraro's been news yesterday. Are her comments racist? That's a loaded, too copious, word. And there've been cases where the Clinton team has gotten a bum rap on these matters. What I do know, however, is that Clinton's campaign and her surrogates have injected the subject of Obama's race into this campaign too many times now for it to be credible to believe that it is anything but a conscious strategy.

Lincoln's quote of Matthew 18:7 is instructive here: "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh."

It is insufficient to say that Republicans will do this in the fall so there's nothing to be lost in hearing it now from Democrats. Because by doing this now, as a Democratic campaign, they are mainstreaming the message. If Obama is the nominee, when this emerges again, no doubt in a harsher, more rancid incarnation, it will come pre-approved by dint of a Democratic campaign's imprimatur.

--Josh Marshall

03.13.08 -- 12:27AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (20)

Second Look on Fallon

Yesterday we reported at some length on the departure Adm. William Fallon, commander of Centcom. Then yesterday afternoon a reporter colleague told me that the real issue with Fallon wasn't Iran but something called "the pause."

With 'surges' and 'pauses' and various other bits of jargon floating around, it's a little hard to keep track. But essentially the 'pause' refers to how long we're going to put off drawing down our forces in Iraq. Fallon wanted a short pause, this colleague told me, and Petraeus wanted a long or (I think more likely) an indefinite one. Now Fred Kaplan at Slate and David Ignatius in the Post bring reports confirming that this was indeed the key issue.

So, not about Iran but Iraq -- and specifically whether we stay there indefinitely waiting on the El Dorado of political progress. Fallon wanted to start drawing down. His bosses disagreed. And now he's gone.

--Josh Marshall

03.12.08 -- 11:47PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (8)

More Tapes

The Pentagon has nearly 50 videotaped recordings of its interrogations of terrorism suspects.

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 11:46PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (34)

For Reason Before She Was Against It?

Not sure quite what it means. But TPM Reader JB dug up this passage from a December 2006 article in the Times about what then seemed the likely prospect that a women and a black man would be competitive candidates in the 2008 Democratic primaries ...

“All evidence is that a white female has an advantage over a black male — for reasons of our cultural heritage,” said the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, the civil rights leader who ran for president in 1984 and 1988. Still, he said, for African-American and female candidates, “It’s easier — emphatically so.”

Ms. Ferraro offered a similar sentiment. “I think it’s more realistic for a woman than it is for an African-American,” said Ms. Ferraro. “There is a certain amount of racism that exists in the United States — whether it’s conscious or not it’s true.”

“Women are 51 percent of the population,” she added.

--Josh Marshall

03.12.08 -- 3:44PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (93)

TPMtv: Send in The Clown

Gerry Ferraro is catching a lot of flak these days. But here at TPM we want to thank her. It's been an exhausting primary season. And we've needed some comic relief in a big way. Saying Barack Obama was lucky to be black may only have been one more 'unfortunate' statement in a string of beauts this election cycle. But going on every show currently on the air to express her outrage at the response to her comments has simply been comedy gold. Check out some of the best moments in today's episode of TPMtv ...

Watch this episode on YouTube.

--Josh Marshall

03.12.08 -- 3:17PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (49)

Move Over Hagee

McCain's new spirtual advisor says America was founded to destroy Islam.

--Josh Marshall

03.12.08 -- 2:38PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (22)

Disappearing Inconvenient Facts

The other night McClatchy broke the news that a huge Pentagon study of Iraqi archives had concluded that there was no Saddam-al Qaeda link. That's been followed by reports in other media on the contours of the report, which was supposed to be released today followed by a Pentagon briefing.

But not any more.

ABC News reports:

The Bush Administration apparently does not want a U.S. military study that found no direct connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda to get any attention. This morning, the Pentagon cancelled plans to send out a press release announcing the report's release and will no longer make the report available online.

The report was to be posted on the Joint Forces Command website this afternoon, followed by a background briefing with the authors. No more. The report will be made available only to those who ask for it, and it will be sent via U.S. mail from Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia.

It won't be emailed to reporters and it won't be posted online. …

Asked why the report would not be posted online and could not be emailed, the spokesman for Joint Forces Command said: "We're making the report available to anyone who wishes to have it, and we'll send it out via CD in the mail."

Another Pentagon official said initial press reports on the study made it "too politically sensitive."

Late Update: Needless to say, this is a clownish effort at best. Nothing prevents anyone from obtaining the report and publishing it in its entirety. Paul Kiel has more.

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 1:59PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (24)

All in the Family

Will Bunch, on why "Archie Bunker's congresswoman" wasn't off-message for the Clinton campaign at all.

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 12:39PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (10)

No Deal Yet

From a statement just put out by the U.S. Attorney's Office for SDNY:

In response to press speculation, MICHAEL J. GARCIA, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, said: "There is no agreement between this Office and Governor Eliot Spitzer, relating to his resignation or any other matter."

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 12:24PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (16)

CAPITOL HILL EVACUATED

U.S. Capitol building being evacuated because of air-space violation of no-fly zone over D.C., CNN reports.

Late Update: It appears to be an unintended incursion into the restricted airspace by a private plane.

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 12:18PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (10)

Like Cats to Water

The House last night voted to create an outside panel to review ethics complaints. Let's just say that it passed over very strenuous objections from some quarters.

We've put together some of the best quotes from the debate.

My favorite, from Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-KS): "If you have a single ounce of self-preservation, you'll vote no."

--David Kurtz

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Shoring Up the Financial Base

Hillary's top fundraisers will be sitting down to a private meeting with her today in D.C. for a pep talk and a wide-ranging look at the state of the race, TPM Election Central has learned.

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 11:45AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (8)

Spitzer Resigns

Not a good sign when your criminal defense lawyers precede you into your resignation press conference.

The governor's resignation will be effective as of next Monday:

And that's it. Took no questions.

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 11:19AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (6)

"Militant Unitarians"

Steven Waldman: "It’s as if progressives feel that if they can prove that the Founders were Deists rather than serious Christians, then that will strengthen the case for separation of church and state."

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 11:03AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (24)

Unfortunate Choice of Words?

From Human Events magazine's pitch for their new "report" on Barack Obama (emphasis added) ...

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--Josh Marshall

03.12.08 -- 10:13AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (6)

Today's Must Read

Timeline!

TPMmuckraker puts together the sequence of events in the Spitzer investigation.

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 9:41AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (6)

Spitzer Resignation Imminent

Aides say his resignation will come sometime this morning.

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 8:51AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (13)

What Were the Feds After?

This morning's Washington Post suggests the FBI had been trying to catch Gov. Spitzer in the act for some time:

Weeks before a hotel meeting with a prostitute that threatens to derail his career, the FBI staked out New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer at the same hotel in an unsuccessful effort to catch him with a high-priced call girl, according to a person with knowledge of the investigation.

The FBI placed a surveillance team on Spitzer at the Mayflower Hotel for the first time on Jan. 26, after concluding from a wiretapped conversation that he might try to meet with a prostitute when he traveled to Washington to attend a black-tie dinner, the source said Tuesday. …

The January stakeout at the Mayflower came roughly two weeks after a federal judge authorized investigators to intercept the escort service's telephone calls and text messages.

A team of agents from New York and Washington was hurriedly dispatched to the hotel after an escort service employee was heard on a wiretap calling the front desk to say that flowers were being sent to Spitzer and wanting to confirm that he would be there, said a source knowledgeable about the investigation who requested anonymity in order to speak freely.

Spitzer spent part of the day and evening at the hotel, but if he had a date from the escort service, the agents did not see her or she did not show up.

Spitzer was accompanied to Washington by members of his police detail, who were apparently unaware of the FBI surveillance even though an officer from the detail watched the governor's room from across the hall, through a cracked door.

This dovetails in some respects with what a lawyer reader was pointing me toward last night -- before the Post story came out. I yield the floor to TPM Reader BK:

But here is where it gets odd. The wire tap goes live toward the beginning of January. They listen in to numerous conversations between clients and the escort service owners/operators all through January and early February.

Judging from the affidavit, they obviously have more than enough to bust all four employees and numerous johns. But they don't.

They sit on the wire until February 11, when Eliot Spitzer contacts the service. Importantly, the investigators would have known that Spitzer was a repeat user. So, if they bring charges in early February, they get the brothel owners, but they don't get the big prize - the moralizing Governor of New York state.

Were they waiting for him? I don't know. But look at the timing: Spitzer has his liason with the prostitute on February 12, and suddenly, the Feds wrap up their investigation. They file charges just three weeks later. They had their evidence.

This smells like they were sitting on the wire, knowing Spitzer was eventually going to call.

This thought had been rattling around in my head, too. Based on the financial transactions, the feds initially suspected some sort of scam against Spitzer or possibly his involvement in public corruption. But they quickly figured out this was about sex.

At that point, with the amount of money involved, they knew they had a high-dollar prostitution ring in their sights, and likely violations of money-laundering and tax laws. So it certainly made sense to continue the investigation. But the speed with which they brought charges after catching Spitzer in the act has puzzled me from the get-go.

--David Kurtz

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David Mamet: Why I am no longer a 'brain-dead liberal.'

--David Kurtz

03.12.08 -- 1:12AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (23)

Persona Non Grata

As attention has turn to other subjects down here, up in Canada suspicion over the Obama/Goolsbee leaks has focused in on Canadian Ambassador Michael Wilson. Wilson has been forced to concede that he spoke to the reporter who broke the story shortly before the story first aired but he has declined to explain what they discussed. Now Canadian opposition leaders are calling for his resignation.

--Josh Marshall

03.12.08 -- 12:20AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (53)

Mississippi Crossovers

I suspect partisans on either side will draw different interpretations from it. But here's another interesting tidbit out of the Mississippi exit poll. The conventional wisdom and to a significant degree the reality in many other states has been that Barack Obama has picked up the lion's share of Republican crossover voters. Not in Mississippi. According to MSNBC's exit numbers, Republicans made up either 12% or 13% of the voters in tonight's primary. And they went for Hillary Clinton by a decisive 3 to 1 margin.

--Josh Marshall

03.11.08 -- 10:21PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (13)

"High-ranking aide" tells the Albany Times-Union that Gov. Spitzer will resign on Wednesday.

--Josh Marshall

03.11.08 -- 10:14PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (12)

To the Victor, The Spoils

Obama eschewed the election night rally for sitdown interviews with the cable nets:

--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 9:36PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (14)

Playing With Fire -- And He Knew It

We get more details on precisely what Spitzer was allegedly doing that attracted bank attention, from Newsday:

Spitzer last year had wanted to wire transfer more than $10,000 from his branch to what turned out to be the front for the prostitution ring, QAT Consulting Group, which also uses a number of other names, in New Jersey, the sources said.

But Spitzer had the money broken down into several smaller amounts of less than $10,000 each, apparently to avoid federal regulations requiring the reporting of the transfer of $10,000 or more, the sources said. The regulations are aim to help spot possible illegal business activities, such as fraud or drug deals.

Apparently, having second thoughts about even sending the total amount in this manner, Spitzer then asked that the bank take his name off the wires, the sources said.

Bank officials declined, however, saying that it was improper to do so and in any event, it was too late to do so, because the money already had been sent, the sources said.

The bank, as is required by law, filed an SAR, or Suspicious Activity Report, with the Internal Revenue Service, reporting the transfer of the money that exceeded $10,000, but had been broken down into smaller amounts, the sources said. …

The assumption, the sources said, was that Spitzer was being victimized either by a blackmailer or an impostor. The agents also speculated that perhaps the governor was involved in some sort of political corruption, the sources said.

--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 8:06PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (98)

Say It Ain't So

We just got an email from a longtime and prized reader, TPM Reader JS. And JS said that Ferraro's statement was simply a fact. And whatever outrage people feel, she says, people shouldn't be forced to shut up or stand down when they're simply saying things that are true, even if they're uncomfortable truths.

Now, I'm really not much for the sport of competitive outrage that's flying over all of our heads of late. So I'm just going to set aside whether the comment is offensive or outrageous. Let's just consider whether it's accurate.

Can anyone seriously claim that it's an asset to be an African-American in a US presidential race? Happily what we're now seeing is that it does not in itself seem to be an eliminating factor in a presidential race. But an advantage? There's no doubt that Obama's race is the central factor in allowing him to consolidate almost unanimous support from African-American voters, especially in the South. But African-Americans make up only about 13% of the population. And does anyone doubt that that advantage he gains there is not balanced at least to a substantial degree by resistance to voting for him among white voters? Why is Obama running so poorly among white voters tonight (compared to his rates in northern states) in Mississippi? And in South Carolina? We hear a lot about Sen. Clinton's bedrock of strength among non-college educated white voters. Do we really think that's simply a matter of appeal of Sen. Clinton? More speculatively, but I think no less true, is that a lot of the Farrakhan/Muslim/foreign influence stuff has more sticking power because of Obama's race.

Most of the same points could be made about the advantages and disadvantages Sen. Clinton is under because of her gender. In fact I think there's a pretty striking symmetry. It's clearly helping her with her big advantage among women voters, especially her generational peers. But we'd be foolish not to realize that some of Obama's big margins among white men are not simply a reflection of support for Obama.

You might support Obama or not, think he's qualified or an empty suit but suggesting he's only where he is now because he's black is something much worse than outrageous. It just seems obviously false.

--Josh Marshall

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Nets call Mississippi for Obama.

--Josh Marshall

03.11.08 -- 7:35PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (22)

No Country for Young Governors

As we wait here for the returns to come in from Mississippi, it occurred to me that while I love living in New York City we've had sort of a rough time with the governors lately. There are some pretty obvious differences between the blowout of NJ Gov. Jim McGreevey's career and our Gov. Spitzer's. But through all the differences of money or no money and differing sexual orientations, there's also a pretty strong similarity. New Democratic governors brought in after a long period of Republican rule rapidly brought down by wildly reckless sexual behavior. All we need now is some Connecticut governor to get tripped up and we'll have the local trifecta. But then it occurred to me, what am I thinking: Connecticut Gov. John Rowland was forced to resign and was then thrown in the slammer just back in 2005. Admittedly his weaknesses were for luxury rather than carnality. But still three gubernatorial takedowns in four short years is a rough record for our area.

--Josh Marshall

03.11.08 -- 7:16PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (11)

Hey There, Big Spender

A couple of more data points emerged today about the underlying conduct by Eliot Spitzer that is now under federal investigation.

ABC News is reporting this evening that Spitzer moved "an estimated $40,000 through various accounts" in possible violation of federal law, according to federal investigators.

Earlier today, the New York Times reported that "Mr. Spitzer’s payments to the Emperor’s Club began sometime in the middle of 2007."

Even at the $4,500 a pop that Emperor's Club allegedly charged, you're talking about numerous assignations just in the last few monnths. Based on the wiretap from the night of Feb.13, it appears Spitzer was more in the $2,500 per night range. So as many as a dozen or more separate encounters, assuming that all $40,000 went to call girls.

While that's an awful lot of money to be spending on call girls in a relatively short period of time, $40,000 is a relatively small amount when it comes to money laundering. The movement of that amount of funds by a man who reportedly has considerable personal wealth would not be particularly suspicious. Assuming banking regulations required the filing of a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR), the amount of money involved was so minimal that it's surprising it caught the eye of the IRS.

Before Alberto Gonzales and the revelations surrounding the politicization of the Justice Department, a safe assumption would have been that the name of a sitting governor on a SAR would have been enough to catch the eye of any investigator, even if the amounts involved were relatively small. That's the gist of what happened here, according to various reports.

I hope that's true. I want it to be true. Based on the facts as we know them now, I tend to think it is true. But one of the sad legacies of the Bush Administration is the lingering doubt that now accompanies public corruption investigations.

Late Update: From the AP:

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a law enforcement official said Tuesday that Spitzer, in fact, had spent tens of thousands of dollars with the Emperors Club. Another official said the amount could be as high as $80,000. But it was not clear over what period of time that was spent.

$40,000? $80,000? But who's counting?

--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 6:59PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (8)

Can't Walk Away

Last we heard from John McCain he was denouncing John Hagee's anti-Catholic statements while holding on to his endorsement. But now McCain seems to be having second thoughts. Today McCain went on Hugh Hewitt's Bill Bennett's show and explained that while he would condemn Hagee's anti-Catholic remarks if they were actually anti-Catholic that he's not actually sure they were anti-Catholic. He now points out that Hagee says the remarks were taken out of context and that he'd appreciate if Hagee can be allowed to explain his remarks.

"Well, obviously I repudiate any comments that are anti-Semitic or anti-Catholic, racist, any other. And I condemn them and I condemn those words that Pastor Hagee apparently — that Pastor Hagee wrote. I will say that he said that his words were taken out of context, he defends his position. I hope that maybe you'd give him a chance to respond."

He also went on to say that we shouldn't be so quick to judge Hagee because he's a big supporter of Israel and also supports an indefinite occupation of Iraq.

--Josh Marshall

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Big Picture on Fallon

The interlocking rumor and speculation mills are now buzzing with theories about whether Adm. Fallon jumped or was pushed from his perch as the top military commander for US military forces across the Middle East (what the Pentagon refers to as 'Central Command'). But there is a big picture that is important to keep in focus. That is, quite simply, that Fallon is leaving because he was apparently too sane for the Bush White House.

Those may seem like fighting words, but they're not.

By all accounts, the points of contention between Fallon and Bush administration officials centered on three points: 1) his belief that the indefinite occupation of Iraq is a disaster for the US military, 2) that diplomacy has a central role in American foreign and national security policy, 3) that war is not a credible policy for the US to pursue in dealing with Iran. The last of these was believed to be the key issue.

Bear in mind too that Fallon was not foisted on the White House. Nor was he a holdover from a previous administration. The administration chose him. And while the political leadership of the Pentagon and the White House can't choose just anyone for that job they have a fair amount of latitude to choose an officer of sufficient rank who is to their liking -- a prerogative this administration has availed itself of as much or more as any in modern American history.

It is widely believed in media and political circles that despite the difficulties in Iraq and Afghanistan, American foreign policy is back under some kind of adult/mainstream management. In other words, that we've left the Cheney/Rumsfeld era behind for a period of Gates/Rice normalcy and that Iran regime change adventurism is safely off the table. But put together what the disagreements with Fallon were about, the fact that the president chose him as someone he thought he could work with not more than one year ago, and the almost unprecedented nature of the resignation and it becomes clear that that assumption must be gravely in error.

--Josh Marshall

03.11.08 -- 3:50PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (30)

Fallon on His Sword

Like other professional classes -- lawyers and scientists come immediately to mind -- the military officer corps is seen by the White House as a threat to its own Executive Branch hegemony.

That's the key to understanding today's resignation by Adm. William Fallon, the commander in chief of Central Command.

The resignation of a CINC is a big deal, under almost any circumstance. But considering the Bush Administration's seven-year effort to put the Pentagon under its thumb, the resignation of a commander like Fallon, who by most accounts was willing to exercise his independent military judgment, is another setback for the professional officer corps as an institution.

Make no mistake. None of the Bush Administration's efforts in this regard has been about re-asserting civilian control over the military in some constitutional sense. The effort has been focused on degrading the autonomy, independence, and institutional authority of the Pentagon in order to further the narrow ideological and partisan aims of this particular White House.

Fallon was considered by many to be the one man standing between Dick Cheney and bombing Iran. So in the short term, Fallon's resignation raises concerns about our future policy towards Iran (and as Spencer Ackerman notes, those concerns are likely to be greatest in Iran itself). So much for the return to mainstream foreign policy that was going to be led by Bob Gates and Condi Rice.

In the long-term, Fallon's resignation -- in some ways forced, perhaps in other ways dictated by circumstance -- does much of the same damage to the Pentagon as has already been done to the Justice Department and the supposedly independent regulatory agencies. Defense Secretary Gates was supposed to be a bulwark against the White House's ongoing efforts to erode the Pentagon. But Fallon was apparently too independent. The White House wanted someone, as Esquire said, more pliable. Another Tommy Franks. And we all remember where that led.

--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 3:24PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (21)

Fallon Resigns

Admiral William Fallon is out as CENTCOM commander.

Fallon has resigned, according to Defense Secretary Robert Gates, in a press conference at the Pentagon:

According to a recent Esquire profile of Fallon, a piece which generated considerable controversy within the Pentagon:

[W]ell-placed observers now say that it will come as no surprise if Fallon is relieved of his command before his time is up next spring, maybe as early as this summer, in favor of a commander the White House considers to be more pliable.

Here is Fallon's statement:

"Recent press reports suggesting a disconnect between my views and the President's policy objectives have become a distraction at a critical time and hamper efforts in the CENTCOM region. And although I don't believe there have ever been any differences about the objectives of our policy in the Central Command Area of Responsibility, the simple perception that there is makes it difficult for me to effectively serve America's interests there," said Fallon.

"I have therefore concluded that it would be best to step aside and allow the Secretary and our military leaders to move beyond this distraction…and focus on the achievement of our strategic objectives in the region. I have submitted my request to retire to the Secretary of Defense."


--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 3:19PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (29)

Other Shoe About to Drop

We're hearing rumblings on the personnel front from the Pentagon.

Stay tuned . . .

--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 3:04PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (34)

Velvet Hammer

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has remained ostensibly neutral in the Democratic primary contest. But the consensus, based on telltale signs like an Obama endorsement from her close supporter Rep. George Miller (D-CA), has been that she prefers Obama.

In this revealing exchange yesterday on NECN-TV, Pelosi is asked about the prospect of a Clinton-Obama ticket (via Ben Smith):

Doesn't sound like Pelosi was too happy with Clinton's line about her and McCain having "crossed the commander-in-chief threshold."

--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 2:07PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (13)

Your Last Fix

I'm skeptical about the assumption that this long, drawn-out primary process is necessarily a bad thing for the eventual Democratic candidate. But it's certainly a long slog if you're covering it. In any case, if you're a certified primary process junkie, be warned. Tonight is the last primary or caucus until Pennsylvania on April 22nd. Tonight is Mississippi's big moment. And as usual we'll be bringing you live election results starting at 8 PM Eastern when polls close in the Magnolia state.

--Josh Marshall

03.11.08 -- 1:33PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (11)

TPMtv: Eliot's Mess

So how exactly did the Feds end up investigating the New York Governor for paying for sex from prostitutes? We try to untangle the story ...

Watch this episode on YouTube.

--Josh Marshall

03.11.08 -- 11:57AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (10)

Let the Fireworks Begin

House Dems throw down the gauntlet on telecom immunity and the new surveillance bill.

--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 11:25AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (11)

Spitzer Out?

Aides expect him to resign. Timing uncertain.

--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 10:42AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (8)

Today's Must Read

Pentagon finally gets the newsflash: no connection between Saddam and al Qaeda.

--David Kurtz

03.11.08 -- 9:52AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (4)

TPMCafe Table for One

Steve Waldman, author of Founding Faith: The No. 1 conservative myth is that most of the founding fathers were conservative Christians.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 11:47PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (12)

The Trigger

The latest from the New York Times on what triggered the investigation that ultimately led to Room 871 in the Mayflower Hotel in Washington:

[IRS] investigators conducting a routine examination of suspicious financial transactions reported to them by banks found several unusual movements of cash involving the governor of New York, several officials said. …

The money ended up in the bank accounts of what appeared to be shell companies, corporations that essentially had no real business.

The transactions, officials said, suggested possible financial crimes — maybe bribery, political corruption, or something inappropriate involving campaign finance. Prostitution, they said, was the furthest thing from the minds of the investigators. …

Because the focus was a high-ranking government official, prosecutors were required to seek the approval of the United States attorney general to proceed. Once they secured that permission, the investigation moved forward.

At the outset, one official said, it seemed like a bread-and-butter inquiry into political corruption, the kind of case the F.B.I. squad, known internally by the designation C14, frequently pursues.

But before long, the investigators learned that the money was being moved to pay for sex and that the transactions were being manipulated to conceal Mr. Spitzer’s connection to payments for meetings with prostitutes, the official said.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 11:11PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (7)

Spitzer Lawyers Up

The guv goes with the Manhattan firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind Wharton & Garrison, whose litigation department is co-chaired by Theodore V. Wells, Jr., lately of Scooter Libby fame.

Late Update: Well-informed TPM Reader WD checks in:

There's the presence of Ted Wells, which is certainly a factor, but Eliot probably chose Paul, Weiss to represent him in his Client 9 troubles in large part because Michele Hirshman is now a partner there. She was one of his most highly trusted senior attorneys from his AG days. Michele was effectively his right-hand woman on all nonpolitical, AG stuff and supervised all of the high-profile substantive work of the office.

Ted might end up being the face, but Michele will be the behind-the-scenes negotiating counsel with the assistant U.S. attorneys at SDNY running the Emperor Club investigation.

Here's Hirshman's bio.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 11:15PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (5)

2008 Golden Dukes Preview

TPM Reader PT takes the long view ...

Under the category of Egregious Carnality, or whatever you call it, this Spitzer deal is going to be really hard to top, I think. Especially when you throw in details like: rendezvous on Valentine's Day's Eve; overpaying in order to get a credit for future meetings; and the quote that he "would ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe..."

Like, you know, pursuing trysts with hookers after, like, carefully nurturing a reputation as an ethics maniac.

So let me make a bold claim - a very bold claim. The Eliot Mess WILL win next year's Golden Duke for Carnality!

C'mon Republicans! Ye men of whips and diapers! Of paraphernalia and toys! Head out to your nearest public restroom! Look for the one you fear and crave! Take a wide stance!

And show me you've got what it takes... to earn that precious Golden Duke!!!

--Josh Marshall

03.11.08 -- 1:11AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (43)

About Those 'Caucus' Delegates

Before New York State politics was turned upside down and shaken all around today, we had noted that Hillary Clinton had hinted at the possibility of trying to woo Barack Obama's pledged delegates over to her side. She also trotted out the neologism or seldom phrased "caucus delegates" in order to contrast to "pledged delegates." But an old pal of mine gave me a call today that gave me an idea of something else that may be afoot here.

"Caucus delegates" are different from primary delegates. But not quite in the sense that people are saying. Not in the sense that they're any less legit or meaningful than those produced by primaries. But they are less fixed.

Here's what I mean. Caucuses rarely if at all vote directly for national convention delegates (I'm going to hedge here a bit because I don't know the ins and outs of every states rules.) Generally speaking, they choose delegates to a state convention, which in turn chooses delegates to the national convention. In some states I think there are even intervening county conventions. But the key point is that unlike in primaries where the delegates really get picked on primary night, that's not what happens with caucuses. When you have a caucus in state such-and-such and they say Obama got X number of delegates, that's just an estimate. He doesn't really have them yet. What it really means is that he got X number of delegates and if they all go to the state convention and vote for Obama then he'll get the estimated number of delegates, or something very close to that number.

The point is that there's a lot of potential haggling and funny-business possible between what's actually set in stone now and what people are expecting come convention time. TPM Reader AO sent in this AP article from February which notes that back in 1984 Gary Hart actually lost delegates through the course of this sifting process.

In Nevada, Obama won 13 delegates and Clinton won 12.

But if one side is unable to rally its supporters at any step along the way, it risks losing national delegates, much like Gary Hart did in 1984.

Hart fared well in initial party caucuses when he ran for the Democratic nomination in 1984, only to see some of those delegates go to Walter Mondale at the state conventions, said Tad Devine, a Democratic strategist who counted delegates for Mondale.

People often ask me if national convention pledged delegates can switch candidates. And the answer is yes, they can. But in practice, it's highly, highly unrealistic because the people who the candidate chooses to be their delegates are the staunchest of supporters, the absolute campaign true believers. So as long as that candidate is still in the race, the idea that they're going to get wooed away is highly unrealistic.

But way down at the county convention level we're talking really big numbers of delegates. You don't know these people quite as well. Some of them may be new to politics. You've got to be certain they all show up at the different conventions. As the same AP article notes, if at any point one campaign or another can't manage or control their delegates, they can lose some national delegates.

Don't get me wrong. Hillary isn't going to come out of Kansas with more delegates than Obama. Any changes would be small. But every little bit helps at this point. I heard twenty or thirty possible new delegates tossed around as a possibility today -- a number that strikes me as a tall order. But I'll defer to people who know more about the mechanics to decide whether that's credible or not.

The key point to remember is that on balance, the party regulars tend to be Hillary supporters, at least disproportionately so. And they're the ones most familiar with the process, possibly most likely to show (though that's very debateable). On the other hand, it would be surprising if the Obama campaign which has proved so skillful at working caucuses would drop the ball in the subsequent stages of the process. It's not the biggest part of the equation. But it's another moving part you should have your eye on.

Late Update: This post at Daily Kos has some anecdotal evidence (of course unconfirmed) that some of this shaking out is already happening.

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 8:50PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (28)

Bribery Case Turned Vice Bust

The way the Eliot Spitzer story unfolded today initially made it sound as if the feds were going about their business busting a prostitution ring for money laundering when they stumbled across the New York governor, at which point they brought in the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section.

A couple of things seemed off about that narrative.

First, the feds aren't usually in the business of busting prostitution -- a state crime -- unless there's organized crime ties or forced prostitution or some other more serious underlying federal offense. But even assuming they were involved in that kind of investigation, the time frame didn't seem plausible.

Spitzer's alleged call to the prostitution service came less than a month ago, Feb. 13. That would have meant the Public Integrity Section prosecutors were brought in, got up to speed on the case, and filed their complaint in less than a month. That's lightning fast, especially in a case where literally thousands of electronic communications were intercepted. Changing prosecutors midstream can delay a case by weeks or months.

In that sense, ABC's report that the investigation was triggered by suspicious money transfers by Spitzer and that it was handled by the Public Integrity Section from the outset is a lot more plausible than some scenario where Spitzer stumbled into a prostitution sting.

If ABC's account is accurate, the whole case is sort of anti-climactic. The feds start out thinking they have the New York governor on the hook for bribery -- and instead discover that he's just skulking around with high-priced call girls.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 6:58PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (80)

What Prompted Spitzer Investigation?

We've been trying to piece together the answer to that question this afternoon, and ABC News reports an interesting piece of the puzzle:

The federal investigation of a New York prostitution ring was triggered by Gov. Eliot Spitzer's suspicious money transfers, initially leading agents to believe Spitzer was hiding bribes, according to federal officials.

It was only months later that the IRS and the FBI determined that Spitzer wasn't hiding bribes but payments to a company called QAT, what prosecutors say is a prostitution operation operating under the name of the Emperors Club. …

The suspicious financial activity was initially reported by a bank to the IRS which, under direction from the Justice Department, brought in the FBI's Public Corruption Squad.

"We had no interest at all in the prostitution ring until the thing with Spitzer led us to learn about it," said one Justice Department official.

The ABC report goes on to say that Spitzer will be charged with structuring, according to its source.

If I'm remembering my white collar crime law correctly, structuring is basically trying to avoid triggering the federal reporting requirement for any cash transaction that exceeds $10,000. So a series of $9,000 payments to the same person in a short period of time would raise suspicions, for example.

Typically, structuring is a charge prosecutors put together after the fact, by which I mean they reconstruct a financial transaction or series of financial transactions after they have already begun their investigation and are able then to piece together the elements of a structuring charge.

But banks and other financial institutions (including casinos, I believe) also monitor themselves for signs of money-laundering activity. So it's certainly possible that a bank could have tipped off the feds, though my sense is that it takes a pretty clear pattern of conduct involving substantial amounts of money before a bank's compliance staff takes notice. Readers with expertise in the area can correct me if I'm wrong.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 6:00PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (33)

Get This Man on the Phone with Eliot!

Matt Cooper Asks: Should prostitution be illegal anyway?

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 5:56PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (6)

Inevitable

The NRCC has starting spitting out about an email every three or four minutes with the headline: "Will [Dem Congressman/woman X] Return Spitzer's Sleazy Money." I'll say this for them. They're efficient.

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 4:59PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (8)

What got the ball rolling on the investigation that eventually touched Eliot Spitzer?

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 4:21PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (10)

Roger!

As I said in the earlier post, there is some good to come of this. One is we get to watch Roger Stone discussing sexual transgressions and hubris ...

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 3:50PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (12)

Public Corruption or Vice?

The NY Sun reported this morning before the NYT bombshell that the prostitution ring case is being handled by the Justice Department's public corruption section:

Prosecutors specializing in government corruption cases are leading the investigation into what authorities say was a prostitution service that charged up to $5,500 an hour — suggesting that the U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan may have evidence that a public official hired a prostitute. …

During a court hearing in the case, at which the four people were arraigned, it emerged that all three of the assistant U.S. attorneys assigned to the prosecution are part of the U.S. attorney's public corruption unit. One is the bureau's chief, Boyd Johnson III. The unit investigates wrongdoing by both elected and nonelected officials and bureaucrats at various levels of government. …

"When we first got the case, we were surprised that these were the assistants handling the case," said a defense attorney, David Gordon, who represents one of two women alleged to have booked engagements for prostitutes.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 3:48PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (36)

Bright Side!

It takes the drivers licenses for illegals issue off the table!

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 3:42PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (9)

Spitzer Speaks

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 3:29PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (15)

Text of Spitzer's statement.

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 3:27PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (6)

Number 9, Number 9, Number 9 . . .

The NYT reports that Spitzer is Client 9 in the criminal complaint filed against the prostitution ring.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 2:58PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (59)

Fox saying Spitzer will resign; me saying, no kidding.

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 2:37PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (38)

So I guess Spitzer's future presidential prospects are looking diminished?

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 2:29PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (46)

Best Practices

We're waiting for the details. But I must confess that I never cease to be amazed by stuff like this. We don't know the precise details yet of this 'prostitution ring involvement' on the part of the Gov. Spitzer (D). But how exactly is it that someone who makes it his business to bust the chops of big wall street titans uses prostitutes? TPM HQ is in Chelsea. And I'm expecting the streets to be deluged at any moment now by joyously rioting stock brokers coming up from Wall Street. We do know that financial industry honchos all have big 'security' offices and have tons of PIs who work for them. I'm frankly shocked they didn't smoke him out before this.

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 2:05PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (28)

BREAKING: Spitzer Linked to Prostitution Ring

NYT:

Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.

Mr. Spitzer, who was huddled with his top aides early this afternoon, had hours earlier abruptly canceled his scheduled public events for the day. He is set to make an announcement about 2:15 this afternoon at his Manhattan office.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 1:58PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (6)

Table for One: Steven Waldman

Steven Waldman, co-founder and editor of Beliefnet, is blogging this week at TPMCafe about his new book, Founding Faith. He starts off addressing what he calls "Liberal Fallacy No. 1" -- that most of the founding fathers were Deists or secular.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 1:49PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (6)

Obama's commander-in-chief test possibly slated to be readministered?

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 12:08PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (5)

Neologism Watch

While we were looking over yesterday's Newsweek interview with Hillary Clinton which hinted at a strategy of wooing Obama's super-delegates, we also noticed a new definitional point Hillary made that builds on the earlier rechristening of super-delegates as "automatic delegates." Here's the key passage ...

It doesn't look bleak at all. I have a very close race with Senator Obama. There are elected delegates, caucus delegates and superdelegates, all for different reasons, and they're all equal in their ability to cast their vote for whomever they choose. Even elected and caucus delegates are not required to stay with whomever they are pledged to. This is a very carefully constructed process that goes back years, and we're going to follow the process.

Now, to the best of my knowledge this is the first time I think I've ever heard a distinction made between "elected delegates" and "caucus delegates". I should also note that Clinton's spokesman Phil Singer emailed TPM Election Central to say that notwithstanding Hillary's statement they still will not pursue Obama's pledged delegates.

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 11:42AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (9)

We'll See You in Court

The House has filed suit in federal district court in D.C. to enforce its subpoenas over the executive privilege claims of Harriet Miers and Joshua Bolten.

I just glanced through the pleading very quickly, but it struck me as odd that the House hasn't brought in outside counsel to handle this case (at least not of record in the case). This could very well become the seminal case on the true scope of executive privilege, so the implications extend far beyond the U.S. Attorney scandal, which is what the subpoenas seek information about. The balance of power between Cngress and the Presidency is at stake. These are structural constitutional issues. This case will almost certainly go up on appeal, probably all the way to the Supreme Court.

It seems to me you would want a team of the country's best constitutional and appellate lawyers on the case from the outset, unencumbered by the usual business that the House Counsel's Office faces.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 12:07PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (4)

Thin Gruel

Sens. Rockefeller (D) and Roberts (R) agree on namby-pamby phase II, Iraq Intel Report.

--Josh Marshall

03.10.08 -- 12:09PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (4)

TPMtv: Deep Doo-Doo-Over

The Democratic party seems to have quite a mess on its hands with the unresolved status of Michigan and Florida's delegates. Can the party find a solution before reaching an ugly August convention battle? We search for answers in today's Sunday Show Roundup episode of TPMtv ...

Watch this episode on YouTube.

--Ben Craw

03.10.08 -- 11:32AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (3)

It's the Housing Bubble, Stupid

Dean Baker: The cause of the recession is the collapse of the $8 trillion housing bubble -- not the war.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 11:13AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (4)

Today's Must Read

The Wall Street Journal today really fleshes out the mechanics of the Bush Administration's domestic surveillance program.

Here's an example: If the feds suspect there's a terrorist in Detroit, "the government's spy systems may be directed to collect and analyze all electronic communications into and out of the city."

So much for particularized suspicion, let alone warrants.

--David Kurtz

03.10.08 -- 9:24AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (61)

Buffoonery Alert

Rep. Steve King (R-IA) went on Fox News yesterday and reiterated his comments that electing Obama would be a victory for the terrorists:

There's so much nonsense here, where do you start?

But I will say that the Obama camp better dispense with its standard "there's no place for this in our politics" response. They're getting killed with this kind of stuff. And if they think they can stay aloof from it until November, then he deserves the fate of Michael Dukakis and John Kerry. But they'll be lucky to make it that long. Bill Bradley showed you can be an aloof loser in the primary, too.

It doesn't matter whether you support Obama or Hillary, it's got to give you pause that the leading Democrat in the race (at least in terms of delegates) can't handle these predictable attacks more effectively.

--David Kurtz

03.09.08 -- 9:20AM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (93)

Good for a Laugh

Doug Feith's score-settling Iraq War memoir is about to be released.

--Josh Marshall

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