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pretty weak, right? I just can't understand why a Post reporter wouldn't take such a simple step...

Well, in the prez's "defense", he's never once pronounced the word nuclear correctly, including in that interview. By the way, I think the fact that Bush actually used the word oversight (even in a different context) ought to be comedic low-hanging fruit for someone here.

Remember that it's not just how many times he says "Democrat party" -- more instructive is the times in which he says "Democratic party". he typically uses the correct phrasing when speaking in front of mixed groups or when he is emphasizing his "bipartisan" leanings. from that same link, enter "Democratic party" and you find:

-- in Vienna, Ohio, in front of their Democratic mayor: "In fact, I believe my opponent is running away from some of the great traditions of the Democratic Party.... The Democratic Party has a great tradition of leading this country with strength and conviction in times of war."

- in reports to the press, saying that the bipartisan Baker Commission report would give an opportunity to find common ground "...not for the good of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party, but for the good of the country."

- in remarks after passing a tax bill in 2001: "We listened to the voices of those in my party and in the Democratic Party who wanted additional help for those at the lowest end of the economic ladder. "

more evidence that the State of the Union tweak was a slip-up.

Bush finally admitted it.

"I didn't even know I did it."

That pretty well sums up the last 6 years. Had he known what he was doing, I would hope that he would have arrived at a different conclusion. At least one can hope.

yeah, that definitely adds another layer of meaning to his use of the term "oversight." makes it funnier, in a way.

Josh,

Thanks so much for this post. I have brought this up before, and been told not to be so sensitive.

I am sorry, this slur makes my blood boil. I find it hard to believe that he didn't realize the implications of 'DemoCRAT Party'. It is obvious that the RepubliCANT Party is doing this on purpose.

I was absolutely shocked that someone in MSM actually asked the question.

Does the White House web site's collection of official transcripts even count as a reliable source in this matter? After all, the script of the State Of The Union was "Democratic", not "Democrat" ... it seems to me that using their own site will is likely to give a dramatic under-estimate.

At least someone in the press brought it up....

You know its pretty bad when token Fox "liberal" Juan Williams has to bring it up......

In reference to whether the white house transcripts are accurate, keep in mind that they're generally released after the events, which means they're in the main transcripts of words that have already been spoken...

Oh man, PLEASE bring back the full feed of Hourses Mouth! Reading in a newsreader is so much easier then reading in a web browser!!!

Please?

Hey David -- it should be working now. If you're still having a problem, email Andrew at andrew@talkingpointsmemo.com and he'll help ya out...

Oddly enough, I believe him. He said "Well, that was an oversight then." (Emphasis mine.) The speech as written read "Democratic" and was generally conciliatory, so I think in that instance he actually intended to say it, but he's been so well trained to use the "Democrat Party" slur instead that he couldn't help himself.

Of course, this doesn't change the fact that the other hundreds of times he's used it, it was deliberate, but I'd say it's more a failure of the interviewer to let him get away with a statement that may be narrowly true without following up on the larger falsehood. But that pretty much characterizes a lot of Williams' interview.

greg, wrt to your 12:49, this really is one of those issues that i find completely mystifying about journalism in our times.

here we are in a world in which information - facts - is a mouse click away, and yet so few journalists bother.

this i truly do not understand....

I know, howard. it's deeply strange.

Redshift, I too picked up on the use of "then". But he could well have performed on-the-spot editing. We know that he rehearsed the speech several times before delivering it so he should have been well aware of the wording in advance.

It would be interesting to see what flashed on the teleprompter. It is common for there to be slight variations between what is handed out to the press and the copy the President reads from.

i find the democratic obsession with this ridiculous. republicans, pundits, the so-called news media, viciously smear democrats individually and in toto ALL TIME. why this one is such a big deal I can't fathom. Seems like the least of it to me and wholly trivial. Republicans love it because crying about this small item makes democrats look like overly sensitive babies - its another lose-lose for democrats.
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Democrat Party sounds bad to the ear, but why is it a slur? Because Dems say so? I'm not saying I like it, but what difference does it make? I think to most people, it just makes the speaker sound dumb.

We've all met people who mispronounce or mis-state the name of another person - consistently, even when corrected. It's a sign of contempt for the person whose name is being mangled.

It's the same way with the phrase "Democrat Party".

But, why should we expect good behavior from the 'Publican Party, right? ;)

Members of the Republic Party seem to get some small joy out of intentionally corrupting the name the Democrats prefer. I don't understand what's so fun about repeatedly doing something so petty, but Republic Party members really get a kick out of it. I guess pettiness is really part of the Republic Party's agenda.

pluege's "Why are we spending so much time on this small thing?" has been argued in many places. My response: it's a bit like Guiliani's Broken Window theory (which said, leaving a window broken indicates a general level of neglect that makes people feel free to trash the neighborhood in other ways). This misuse of the party name is an admittedly small level of bullying/disrespect which Democrats have been taking for ten years -- but doesn't it seem that, during that period, many party members had been getting more and more comfortable losing/being pushed around? (Lieberman is still perfctly happy with it) It's coincided with or led to a general breakdown in morale, and that's the problem with it.

It seems to me those advocating fighting this are not suggesting it as a substitute for fighting other fronts, but as part and parcel of a general assertion of rights.

Personally, I'm not terribly offended when most Republic Party members use the term. What really riles me is when Joe Lieberman refers to himself as a Democrat. Now THAT'S insulting.

The back side of my 2007 Democratic National Committee card lists the following;
www.democrats.org.

Not saying, just saying.

It's symbolic of Bush's pandering to his diehard base, the 30%, who enjoy this kind of stuff. It's meaningful because these are the same 30% who want to privatize Social Security, escalate Iraq into Iran, teach creationism, etc.

His only remaining support is from his kooky base, and he only keeps them by doing things guaranteed to annoy the other 70% of America.

In a nut shell, Bush is fringe politician who snuck into the White House on false premises of being a 'uniter.'

A Democrat is a member of the Democratic Party.

"A Democrat is a member of the Democratic Party."

And a numbskull is a member of the Republic Party.

"And a numbskull is a member of the Republic Party."

I think most members of the Democratic Party would find that comment obnoxious.

"I think most members of the Democratic Party would find that comment obnoxious."

Most likely. An aversion to fisticuffs is one of the party's true weaknesses.

let's call them Republicants.

That's because Bill went back in time and said 'we are democrats.' They were making decisions back in that time and decided to always support democrats, not democracy, as in other free parties............

"I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town," the president said. "And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it."

Well, at least he's admitting it.

Democrat Party sounds bad to the ear, but why is it a slur? Because Dems say so?

Though there are older usages (Joe McCarthy apparently used it a lot), it was specifically put into practice by Newt Gingrich and Frank Luntz because it sounds less appealing than the correct name. I think a name that used by your opponents to try to make you sound worse makes it a slur. (Think about it -- there's nothing inherently wrong with the words used as ethnic slurs, other than that they're used by people who hate that group over their objections.)

Re: pluege's comments... yes, the Republicans are masters at seventh grade stupidity. And Bush is encouraging it. "Look, I called his party 'Democrat Party'! Hyuk hyuk hyuk. Now watch him complain that I said it wrong on purpose and I can say 'wahhh wahhh wahhh.'" This is the kind of political locker room crap that most Americans are really sick of. They should restrain themselves before they fall even further behind.

Head on over to dKos where itsandy has coined what has to be our best and funniest response to all this - from this day forward, members of the opposition party shall be known as "Rebublican-Americans!"

"You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." -President Bush, June 4, 2003 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/06/20030604-3.html

This (and Dan Riehl) annoyed me so much that I wrote a primer on how to respond to it.

http://democratparty.blogspot.com/

Please answer the following.

As a thought experiment, let's say you lived next door to a Jewish day care center and you were bothered by it, not because you are anti-semitic, but because it's noisy and smells bad. Would you go around saying things like "I'm really getting sick of this Jew day care center"?

Furthermore, in your everyday parlance, do you frequently use terms like "that Jew lawyer" or "the Jew fraternity" or "a Jew holiday"?

Why or why not?

Furthermore, as a response, you should refer to Republicans as the anti-Democratic party.

I don't so much mind Republicans saying Democrat this or that. They're just being Republicans—irritating and ill-mannered. And it sometimes backfires, as it did in the SOTU, where Bush was apparently trying to be gracious but couldn't pull it off because he has conditioned himself to be petty and annoying.

It does bother me a bit when mainstream media pick it up, as Scott Pelley of 60 Minutes did in his recent interview of Bush, using the phrases "Democrat leadership" and "Democrat plan." There's just no excuse for CBS to be mouthing Republican insults.

Talk about looking for the most minor outrage. It reminds me of my teenage daughter, immature, just looking for a controversy. If the Democrat Party really believed in our democracy, the unprecedented protest of the Ohio Electors would have never occurred, a true sour grapes protest of democracy. Or should I say protest of Democrat.

This is a non-issue. It is clear (and has been for some time) that Bush is a narrow-hearted and small-minded man.

Let him continue to demonstrate it.

Bush saying Democrat Majority pays far greater homage to Democrats than what are soldiers are paid when a Democrat says they support the troops.

(He doesn't seem to have any problem saying "democratic" when he describes the kind of government he supposedly is trying to create for Iraq.) But, when he says he can't believe the amount of distrust there is in "this town", and that he's going to try to "elevate it" - i finally found something coming from his mouth I do believe!!!

it would be a fun experiment for the house democratic leadership to suddenly start mistakenly saying 'repuglicans' and see how fast the so-called liberal media in this country suddenly finds this type of under-handed verbal slip-up outrageous and un-called for.

as to whether there's any doubt this is intentional: does anybody remember that study during the '04 election where Bush had spoken twice in one day, once before a pre-screened 'bush crowd' and once before a graduating university class or something similiar, and where he used the 'democrat' mistake 20 times plus in front of his crowd, and not once in front of the neutral crowd?

oh yeah, it's an honest mistake all right, and i'm dick cheney's gun safety instructor.

"i find the democratic obsession with this ridiculous. republicans, pundits, the so-called news media, viciously smear democrats individually and in toto ALL TIME. why this one is such a big deal I can't fathom. "

hmm. maybe it sticks in our craw a little more than all the other hundred little things this ass pulls because it's such a perfect representation of the back-water, petty, small time, bush league crap this administration has been pulling from the minute they stepped foot in the white house.

maybe because we're tired of having our intelligence disrespected and having that disrespect shoved in our faces like a 12 year old throwing a handful of sand in our eyes and then laughing at us and saying it was our fault for bringing it on, and we're over-reacting by simply pointing out how shitty it is, and we should just get over it already.

maybe we're upset because this type of small-time, punk assed behavior is a small, but incredibly accurate, representation of what got us where we are as a nation today in the first place, and we want it to stop, and nobody in the media seem all that concerned or even aware of how childish this whole group of reprobates really is.

(does the idiot parade never stop?)

"Talk about looking for the most minor outrage. It reminds me of my teenage daughter, immature, just looking for a controversy."

oh yeah, and i'm sure you, along with the rest of the republican party, would be completely un-interested if Schumer, Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, etc started referring to republicans as repuglicans tomorrow, and didn't let up, and started calling you guys immature and petty for even being offended.

because you guys are just that much more mature than us.

"The back side of my 2007 Democratic National Committee card lists the following;
www.democrats.org.

Not saying, just saying."

just saying what? that you're an idiot?

because i really hear the word 'democratics' a lot, don't you?

New book:

Republic Grammar.

Yeah, sure, in the SOTU speech, one can easily understand his not being aware he did it since he has used that phrase so many times before. It might have started out as a joke ("He, he."), but then he repeated it so often he became accustomed to saying it and it got fixed in his brain.

One can imagine the Whitehouse staff all pronouncing it "Democrat party," snickering up and down the hallways. The disdain that Cheney and Dubya have for many people is well know.

Dubya is also well known for his dyslexia, something the press never really addressed. And everyone knows of his language flubs and grammatical mistakes.

There is a kind of "not this again," reaction upon hearing a pundit point out yet another Dubyaism.

But perhaps Juan has a point, assuming he knew how often Dubya has said "democrat" this way, in bringing this up. A subtle way of saying:

"Mr. President, why are you so obvious in your disdain of the Democratic party?"

We shall see, perhaps, as the Bush administration continues to go down in flames, even more disdain by this POTUS. Think "rat in a corner."

Forgot to say:

Since tit-for-tat is a winning strategy, we've had a discussion on developing an equivalent for the "Democrat Party" slur. Unfortunately, "Republic Party" doesn't degrade the Republican brand the same way that "Democrat Party" degrades the Democratic brand.

So we came up with an alternative: "Don't say 'Republican.' Say 'anti-Democratic'.

Using "anti-Democratic" has several advantages:

1. It happens to be true both for large "D" and small "d" uses of the word. Florida 2000, anyone? Electronic voting, anyone?

2. It erases the word "Republican" from the discourse entirely.

3. It targets not only the Republican Partei, but the other elements of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy in think tanks, our famously free press, and the Christianist apparatus -- all of whom are united in their anti-[d|D]emocratic orientation.

So, try working "anti-Democratic" into your polemics; I think you'll find it surprisingly easy and fun!

Greg, I actually asked the author of the WaPo article (Abramowitz) about it today at their chat and he gave me a lame-ass answer:

Prescott, Ariz.: As to your article about the President calling the Democratic Party the "Democrat Party," I did a search specific to the White House Web site and found 53 instances where White House documents used this phrase. Many were speeches by Bush. Now in the interest of balance (i.e. whether people should take his usage of this slur as an innocent mistake or a cynical ploy) is this data important background to the story?

Michael Abramowitz: I think that's a helpful piece of research -- I did point out in the story, as have others on this subject, that the president uses this formulation frequently.

I concur with Hendrik's comparison to the flashing of a rightwing gang sign.

It's a way of saying to his homies that he is with them, and to the other side of the aisle that he really doesn't care if he sounds like a juvenile a-hole in order to do it.

It's exactly the same as what George Allen thought he was getting away with by "accidentally" saying macaca.

I don't know anyone who believes Bush's "innocent" act, but it's revealing to watch the eyes of people who profess to pretend to believe it. It gives away their tells when they are lying about something else.

It's just a way to use the word "democrat" like they use the word "liberal." Got to give a negative connotation to it. The word democratic has a positive connotation, so we can't have that, now can we?

I live in the south and frequently hear someone snarl, "them liberals." It's the new n-word. (I must say this usually preceeds an uninformed statement.)

Two points relating to the internet: do the journalists not realize how easily we, the citizens, can one up them on their research? And do they not realize, that by letting us be better than them, that they are contributing to their own demise?

Why do they think we are flocking to the internet in droves?

Hencefoth, I'll refer to repubs as the "Republic party."

flounder, that's great. I'm gonna try to post on that tomorrow...

I think we are being to hard on Whore-for-hay. It is obvious that generations of a seriously restrictive interbreeding program as created a truly stupendous idiot. This combined with Ms Meirs, his office wife, leaving and Laura spending nights at a popular DC hotel to avoid reported bouts of rage and drinking . . . I mean he even bungled choking to death on pretzels . . . How can we expect the leader of the free world to remember the -ic on the end of a word that has had the -ic on it for centuries . . . He is not Bill Clinton.

I think we are being to hard on Whore-for-hay. It is obvious that generations of a seriously restrictive interbreeding program as created a truly stupendous idiot. This combined with Ms Meirs, his office wife, leaving and Laura spending nights at a popular DC hotel to avoid reported bouts of rage and drinking . . . I mean he even bungled choking to death on pretzels . . . How can we expect the leader of the free world to remember the -ic on the end of a word that has had the -ic on it for centuries . . . He is not Bill Clinton.

It is also why Bush assigns nicknames to everyone he meets and refuses to call them by their real name. It's another childish way of asserting dominance. It's ridiculous the way the others in his "pack" are willing to put up with it. I am constantly waiting for him to whip out his male member and mark his territory.

It reminds me of the Lenny Bruce bit about LBJ learning to say 'negro'. But I agree it matters, and I'm not even a Democrat. 'Schoolyard', as Josh put it, is exactly right. That suggests a better response than tit-for-tat, which endorses their puerile game (so they win the meta-game), even if we concoct a taunt that tops theirs.

The patient teacher quietly corrects "ain't" with "isn't" as it occurs, without being upset by it. The issue then is less that it's rude and grates, more that it's ignorant usage requiring a friendly adult's intervention, delivered in a kindly matter of fact tone.

The offender may then either fix the error, in the good child response, or resist and emphasize his childishness. Either way he loses by demonstrating the superiority of the teacher. A few of these public treatments, and they'll stop.

Why not call Republicans what they really are: Repugnicans

Repuglican sounds good.

I did not consider this an issue until I read all the fuss about it. I see the point of the fuss.

If in rebuttal writing on any issue wherein such a "slur" was invoked, make bold the "IC" in the answering literature. The point will be made with class. However, repeated invocations should trigger the "innocently" mispelled or mispronounced nown "repuglican".

The "uniter" Bush reveals his stunningly lowbrow personal nature, matching his competency in diplomacy. We have indeed been cursed having this dangerous mediocrity as president of a once world respected nation,

I like the 'broken windows' justification for the anger I feel every time these clowns use this. I've heard DeLay's office issued fines for the correct use of 'Democratic party.'

'Repugnicans' and all the other intentional additions of slurs into the name of the other party misses the trick, since the ReagaNazis' (RNC=ReagaNaziCorp, trademark) trick is to simply refuse to finish the word 'Democratic.'
While I like the use of 'anti-Democratic', again it is a direct insult, not a subtle dig.
Personally, I use 'the Republy party.' Annoying, not directly insulting, and makes them sound like a kid's toy, not a force to reckon with.

Who cares

Why are we even discussing Bush’s use of this totally wrong name. Poor thing is unable to remember to enunciate correctly or he willfully uses the incorrect name.

It was more likely a willful attempt to slander Democrats, par for the course for Republicans. Frankly the Republicans have embarrassed me so much with this petty OFFICIAL slur policy, that I had to leave the party. Either they callously intend to slam Democrats or they are in unison, so dull witted, they cannot pronounce dem-o-crat-ic correctly. I shudder to think which it is or maybe both.

HEHEHE, we could call their party, publicans. Would be silly but a bit of fun after all.

thanks for pointing this out - it's so grating and grammatically incorrect, and it *should* be pointed out that POTUS does this on numerous occasions. i suppose that he has to stoop that low speaks to his own low ratings.

It's a part of Republican training of its candidates and operatives and has been for years. It also appears that part of those talking points was if they were ever challenged on it to feign ignorance.

Democrats, or Democratics????

this is getting crazy. There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat party. Officialy they are the Party of Democrats or Deocrat party. Look it up.
How stupid. Republicans belong to the Republican party. Therrefore Democraticss belong to the Democratic party.
Better start calling them Democratics then.

I have recorded 356 times that Bush has done this in 190 appearances as president.

See details at my diary at DailyKos:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/2/1/212536/7288

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