Horses Mouth February 14, 2007 1:30 PM

House GOPers: Media Is "Liberal" Because It Reports Facts About Iraq
February 14, 2007 -- 1:30 PM EST // View Comments (2133) // Post a Comment

Okay, this is pretty great. You couldn't ask for a more perfect illustration of the emptiness of the GOP charge that the media's reporting on Iraq is "liberal" than this.

Yesterday over at Election Central we reported that GOP Reps. John Shadegg and Pete Hoekstra had sent out a letter containing a set of talking points for GOP Congressmen to use in the debate in the House this week over escalation. As we noted yesterday, the letter was pretty interesting, particularly in that it urged GOP members not to talk about escalation and instead to change the subject to the wider war on "terror."

But there's another part of the letter that I'd missed yesterday -- and it may be even more revealing in a perverse sort of way. Look at what these two leading Republicans told their GOP troops about the media:

Thanks to the liberal mainstream media, Americans fully understand the consequences of continuing our efforts in Iraq -- both in American lives and dollars. The American people do not understand the consequences of abandoning that effort or the extreme views, goals, and intentions of the radical Islamist movement that is fueling the war in Iraq and the attacks on westerners and unbelievers throughout the world.

I think that's as clearly revealing as one could want. The problem with the liberal media, according to these two top Republicans, is that it's enabling Americans to understand the consequences of the war. But the media's bias is preventing it from reporting the "consequences" of not doing what the President wants.

This is really, really interesting when you unpack it. The media is being faulted for emphasizing the factual -- that is, for reporting on the factually observable things associated with the war that are happening right now, i.e., mounting deaths and skyrocketing costs.

Meanwhile, the thing that these two Republicans are criticizing the media for not doing is interpreting the war as being "fueled" by a single "radical Islamist movement." It's not doing enough reporting on what might happen if we pull out of Iraq. The idea here seems to be that the media's "liberalism" is preventing it from interpreting the war and speculating about the future in the way conservative war supporters want the media to.

Bottom line: The media is being faulted here merely for telling the American people what the consequences of the President's war policies have been. This has long been the subtext of the GOP's attacks on the "liberal" media, but the absurdity of it has never been revealed quite so clearly.

-- Greg Sargent | Comments (2133) | Post a Comment

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It's times like these that I'm glad we have a supremely qualified person like Steven Colbert to present the right-wing's actual approach to the media, in the process of undercutting it with the humor and scorn it deserves. How some on the right haven't figured out that emulating him may not be the best idea if one wants to maintain actual credibility is beyond me, but it's not my party they are in the business of destroying, it's their own...

BTW, you've been on quite the roll lately, Greg, and as always we appreciate it.

Posted by: jfaberuiuc
Date: February 14, 2007 5:00 PM

Good catch indeed. Perhaps the translation here should go further: "thanks to the liberal media not perpetrating our talking points as, in fact, the truth, the American public is now left to its own devices in determining what should be done with this war. Americans thinking for themselves and not being spoon-fed the Party line is a very bad thing for the Party."

Posted by: Legalize
Date: February 14, 2007 5:07 PM

"facts have a well-known liberal bias"

It's awful when Stephen Colbert's over-the-top parody reflects not only GOP intentions, but also their words.

Posted by: Matt
Date: February 14, 2007 5:12 PM

This is the same "liberal mainstream media" that were happy to "catapult the propaganda" about the consequences (smoking gun = mushroom cloud)of not attacking Iraq, the consequences that were envisioned by Bush, Cheney, Rice, Feith, et. al.

Having seen that the basis for these imagined consequences was fictional, and having reported, tio the extent possible from inside the Green Zone, just how well things are going, perhaps the media have swung back to a more "reality based" view.

Posted by:
Date: February 14, 2007 5:17 PM

hey all, nice thread. I hadn't noticed the colbert similarity. and thx, j.

Posted by: Greg
Date: February 14, 2007 5:55 PM

In the meantime, we have a pathetic congress standing around ringing its hands and saying, "Woe is me, woe is me. If I oppose the Iraq war and oppose Bush, I might not get re-elected."

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

Posted by: Dennis
Date: February 14, 2007 6:05 PM

The media do not just report from inside the Green Zone in Iraq. That is a false GOP talking point that has been definitively debunked over and over and over again.

Posted by: ohiomeister
Date: February 14, 2007 6:36 PM

I love the "Curses...foiled again..." style where the writer is clearly annoyed at the "goody..goody" media for revealinbg the truth to the nasty stoopid American people...

Mwuahahaha

Posted by: phil
Date: February 14, 2007 7:13 PM

I think Colbert said "reality has a well known liberal bias".

Here's one from Reagan..."facts are stupid things" (1988 Republican Convention. I learned of this from the liner notes of Frank Zappa's CD Broadway the Hard Way)...

Posted by: Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Date: February 14, 2007 9:47 PM

Meh, this is for consumption of the people who only turn down Fox News so they can listen to Rush Limbaugh on the radio. Attacking the "liberal mainstream media" - Looking at you, Couric - and singling out "radical Islam" ... which for these people... well, all of Islam is radical, ain't it? These catch phrases/targets are meant to perk up the ears of a very specific - and sadly, very large - group of people.

Also for these people, the consequences of "lives and dollars" are obvious and thus inconsequential. The fact the two are coupled together so casually reveals the mindset that such things are expendable... and to be expected. Hell, it's called a _war_ for a reason, right?

What this shows me is that, as the support of the war drops through the floor by more and more people who supported it for so long, that the GOP are becoming more and more desperate to whip up the base. What's left of it.

If we don't get war with Iran in a year (election around the corner ...), don't be surprised when you hear the phrase "towel-head" spoken on the floor of the House. They want to ensure the religious wingnuts that they, the GOP, understand that this is a religious war, and that Christianity is going to win it.

Posted by: matt
Date: February 14, 2007 9:52 PM

As Stephen Colbert commiserated with the President, reality has a well known liberal bias.

Posted by: aleks
Date: February 14, 2007 9:55 PM

On the other hand, what are they saying about Fox "News"?

Posted by: Ethel-to-Tilly
Date: February 14, 2007 10:04 PM

These dopes have been making these slips for decades, as one poster noted about Reagan.

I always liked the time the the Democrat asked the Meese commission whether any of it's conclusions were based on evidence, and the response was something like " if we waited until we had evidence, we wouldn't have made ANY conclusions!"

Please note that 30 % of citizens are still fully on board with the war and Bush- he's still there guy for tax cuts, live births and guns.

Prediction - first Democrat to warm up to middle class tax cut, guns and Jesus wins.

Posted by: johnd
Date: February 14, 2007 10:20 PM

The neocons don't care about the war and they don't care about Iraq. They care about projecting American power in the Persian Gulf and we can do that just fine regardless of Iraqi domestic politics or security. What's 1000 KIA/yr? It's an acceptable, even desirable cost to them.

The only way to stop this is to cut off the funding.

BYW, to give credit where it's due, I didn't come up with this, I read it in the comments on Doug Feiths column in the WP.

Posted by: Horatio Parker
Date: February 14, 2007 10:51 PM

Facts have a well-known liberal bias.

Posted by: r€nato
Date: February 15, 2007 12:45 AM

Geeze... You TPM guys asleep at the wheel? I picked that one out as soon as I read the memo.

Mind you, if it weren't for sites like the TPM, aily Muck, Think Progress, etc., I wouldn't likely ever have time to get my eyes on all of these neat things. I'd be too busy digging to read. heh

Posted by: Connecticut Man1
Date: February 15, 2007 1:19 AM

So the media is being blamed for reporting facts. It only took the GOP six years to say what they really wanted to. Of course Fox News is exempt from this blame, but they're not really a news channel anyway. This should be brought to the attention of some national voices (Air America, Keith Olbermann, etc.) immediately so the GOP can be hammered over their hatred of a free press.

Posted by: Quintus
Date: February 15, 2007 8:20 AM

I think this is a variant of Bush's representation of Cheney's insistence that all is going swimmingly in Iraq as "glass half full". The quote in bold in Greg's post is about 'consequences'. It isn't about facts. What the writer seems to be trying to say is that because the facts of death and loss are being reported, Americans understand the "consequences" of the status quo. But thanks to the "continuing efforts" which bring you these awful consequences, you don't have to understand the other, even more awful consequences that would happen if we didn't understand the first set of consequences. Got that? Now stop asking questions and believe!

Posted by: Aunt Deb
Date: February 15, 2007 8:36 AM

The thing is, after reading foreign newspapers and watching foreign newscasts, one realizes that the US Media actually withhold much of the horrible facts about Iraq.

Posted by: Ad Absurdum
Date: February 15, 2007 8:40 AM

It sounds to me like Shadegg and Hoekstra were trying to give some free publicity to that Fox News documentary on radical Islam.

Posted by: Patience
Date: February 15, 2007 9:18 AM

While I agree that the first sentence in the above quote accurately reflects how much of the GOP views the press, I find it a bit unfair to leave the second sentence out of the discussion. In fact, were one to see this same quote on a right-wing blog, I suspect that it would be the SECOND sentence that was emphasised rather than the first.

It seems the point that was being made (per this snippet) was that somehow the media has done a good job of informing the American public about the costs of the war BUT is willfully negligent at presenting the potential costs of terrorism or of failing in Iraq. In other words, they're accusing the media of being Anti-American.

I disagree with the idea that the media Anti-American, and that it has been negligent in pointing out the potential consequences of terror and failing in Iraq. However, I think this quote is being taken differently than it was intended.

Posted by: Brad Hoehne
Date: February 15, 2007 9:54 AM

The media has done a terrible job of keeping us informed about the mid-east. They bought Gen Franks and the Dept of Defense's BS hook line and sinker for years. The average American was way ahead of the media on sensing the false line being fed to the media.

Posted by: Frank S
Date: February 15, 2007 10:18 AM

I think you're missing the point of the statement, or reading it in a partisan fashion. A more charitable (and frankly, a more accurate) analysis of this passage might hinge on the idea that the (so-called) liberal bias causes the media to report the negative consequences of the course of action favored by liberals, withdrawal, while foregoing reporting of the consequences of the alternative.

Still, it makes for a great soundbite. It smacks of "And I would have gotten away with it, were it not for you kids and your dog."

Still, I don't think an objective, reasonable person could interpret this as a GOP member publically and vociferously condeming the liberal media for reporting facts and not falsehoods.

Posted by: Malcalypse
Date: February 15, 2007 10:20 AM

“radical Islamist movement … fueling the war in Iraq and attacks on westerners and unbelievers …”

– The truly frightening thing is that these Republicans believe their own crap

Posted by: cal1942
Date: February 15, 2007 10:53 AM

... and one more thing. It seems that the word "while" is implied between the two sentences. Were that word there, I think we would not be having this discussion. They GOPers made a lot of hay when Kerry left out the word "us" in a joke as well. It was unfair then. I think, in order to be intellectually honest, we should call this unfair as well.

Posted by: Brad Hoehne
Date: February 15, 2007 11:04 AM

Malcalypse, I'm not sure that that was my point. Rather, it was that the GOPers were condemning the media for reporting facts *while* not *interpreting* the war and *speculating* about the future in a fashion that they would agree with. That was my point -- not that the GOP was condemning the media for not reporting falsehoods...

Posted by: Greg
Date: February 15, 2007 11:16 AM

In the classical liberal sense of the word, that's correct. In a liberal democracy the media is supposed to report facts. Even if that makes the job of the government more difficult.

The right wing is revealing itself as not just anti-liberal in the contemporary sense, but as anti-liberal in the classical sense as well. See, for instance, the exchange between Rep. Cantor & Chris Matthews, transcribed here: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html#3302843870686058945#3302843870686058945.

Apparently democracy means electing a temporary dictator, and nothing more. The founders would have laughed this guy out of the Constitutional Convention.

Posted by: Nathan
Date: February 15, 2007 11:24 AM

No Malcalypse, a reasonable person sees it exactly as it is. The press is being condemned for reporting facts without accompanying propaganda. And in fact, the propaganda is demonstrably incorrect, exactly as Greg says.

The sad truth is that all too often the press does include the propaganda along with factual information. The real bottom line is that the GOP doesn't want the factual information to be reported.

Posted by: cal1942
Date: February 15, 2007 11:24 AM

Don't think the above was as clear on the page as it was in my head. Hoekstra & Shadegg are correct in stating the media is behaving in a liberal fashion, if they are using liberal in the classical sense. Ahem.

Posted by: Nathan
Date: February 15, 2007 11:31 AM

for real iraq reporting, you can't do better than mcclatchey's tom lasseter, at realcities.com
not a green zone kind of guy.

Posted by: kathleen
Date: February 15, 2007 11:54 AM

You can understand why they're upset. Lord knows the media has been carrying their water long enough, especially in regard to Iraq, that they've come to expect it. This new-found media attention to the costs of the war must be doubly irritating as a result.

Posted by: Jeff Frane
Date: February 15, 2007 12:33 PM

What's the worst thing that could happen in Iraq that's detrimental to the future of the Democrat Party?

Posted by: John
Date: February 15, 2007 12:54 PM

Great catch. I'm really rather surprised they spelled it out so clearly. Normally, they've said that by reporting bad news the media is biased - presuming that every day in Iraq is full of good news to report, or equal parts good and bad and therefore it's merely an editorial (or partisan) choice as to how to represent reality, and that actual events play no role.

Posted by: Batocchio
Date: February 15, 2007 3:50 PM

Yeah--aren't they supposed to be keeping us dumb and pregnant? Shame on the liberal media for f*cking up a good thing.

Posted by: Mark F.
Date: February 15, 2007 4:16 PM

It's almost as though Shadegg and Hoekstra are accusing the liberal media of adopting a "we report, you decide" stance.

Posted by: Paul McNamara
Date: February 15, 2007 4:33 PM

I for one am sick of hearing about the 'liberal media' that's as much a fable as the unicorns, yet the republicans love to roll out that phrase time and time again. Case in point the Shadegg and Hoekstra memo should of been the lead story on all the major news netwoks last yet not word was spoken as far as I could tell. Lets face the only true reporting going on is from the blog world so TPM and all other keep up the good work in informing those that seek out the truth.

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