What does it take for the Washington Post and other mainstream media to understand that the American people do not trust them?

Or, does the Washington Post and other mainstream media, just like the Bush administration, intend to push their agenda whether it is truthful or not?

The American people are sick of this!

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

Fred, the MSM, and unfortunately some of the Dem Leadership and has bought into the "you cant tie the hands of the president with regards to the war" or "Congress cant micromanage the war" arguement

ahem why not......

In 4 years this Presidents management of the war has been disgraceful to say the least...its time for adult supervision....enough is enough..

As a Dem it pains me to say this but Dem leadership better grow a backbone and make some bold and consequential decisions real quick b/c the "Mommy Party" moniker is looking more and more appropriate by the day.

Greg - You call this blog "The Horse's Mouth," presumably because you're commenting on news reporting as it comes straight from the news outlets themselves --- from the horse's mouth, as it were.

But editorials like the WaPo's make me think you should name this blog for the animal's other end.

Hiatt wants the Democrats to have enough ownership so they can be blamed for the failure.

Certainly you don't expect the media enablers to share the blame.

Despite a seemingly endless stream of WAPO articles and editorials over the past 6 years documenting the mendacity and incompetence of the Bush administration, the WAPO editorial board apparently cannot fathom any need to rein in the unitary executive. They are operating under the delusion that all our interests are best served if Bushco just continues to go about its business unfettered...you know...with just a little chide here and a suggestion their. WAPO you continue to be part of the problem and therefore not any part of the solution.

Bush thought that "oversight" is what he makes all the time...

hey all, thx for the great thread. christian -- you're right! that is the idea behind the name. I sometimes worry that people won't get this and will think that the Horse's Mouth refers to me...far from it. and yes, sometimes the temptation is real to shuffle the anatomy ....

I agree with Lib4, the democrats aren't showing much backbone, and what's showing is very timid and punch drunk. Keep on fooling around and the conservative Republicans will be back in in 2008.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

George W Bush is challenging the Democrats - daring them - to take the Iraq War off his hands and the hands of the Republican Party. Democrats should not fall for this smelly piece of sham.

The sad fact is that the Democratic Party is impotent to do anything so long as the Administration and the Republicans refuse to cooperate in any way. The Democrats need to change their strategy.

First of all, they cannot permit the Republican Party to sit on the fence and not accept any responsibility for the disaster now happening in Iraq. They will continue to do that so long as the "constitutional" tug-of-war continues between Pelosi and the White House.

Democrats are being played for suckers. It's time to change the way the game is played. There is a small window for the Republicans to claim some sort of victory in Iraq, but it must be before the first of the new year. Few Republicans wish to be defending Mr Bush's folly in Iraq when election time rolls around.

Democrats need to publically state that they have tried to stop the insanity in Iraq but they have been stopped by the White House and the unwillingness of the Republicans to cooperate in ending the war. It is obvious that Bush and the Republicans wish to hand off the war to the Democrats or the next President. They have no intent to withdraw the troops or to end the war. That will be the steaming hot potato handed to the new President and the new Congress in 2009.

So what can the Democrats do? Nothing. They must wait for the Republicans to come to their senses, which should be some time around election season? Troops will continue to die and the situation in Iraq will continue to deteriorate. Democrats have tried and have been blocked by the Republicans and this White House. They need to stop their attempts to block the present efforts and let the people know where the responsibility lies. If the Republicans wish to claim this bastard child, let them defend it.

Fred Hiatt = Shitbag

I mean how much elementary can it get? Dumb motherfucker?

Remember what the republicans said in 1999 about Clinton's war in Kosovo? DeLay actually said "give peace a chance". Probably the first and last time he ever said that. They were all ready to micromanage that one, and it had clear goals and an exit strategy.
How things changed when their boy got into office.
I know their answer. 9/11 changed everything.
Never mind that Bush's actions have increased terrorism sevenfold.

This is my first post ever - to any blog or anything. There has to be only two explanations as to what is going on with Fred Hiatt and his editorial page. Someone on the right is blackmailing him, or, he likes his social circuit so much that he willing to sell his soul to keep being included in the Washington cocktail crowd. With Woodward right beside him. I am so sad. I started reading the Post at the age of 14 during the Pentagon Papers. Hiatt's is the page was edited by Meg Greenfield and contained opinions from the great Mary McGrory, Carl Rowan and others - I am sure all are spinning in their graves. Carl Rowan wrote a column letting me know it was ok to be who I was. About a year ago I told my friends that the Post has gone to the right. They said I was nuts. They no longer say so. They now are subscribing to the NYTimes.
The nation's capital has two papers, one run by the Moonies and the other - run by the power elite. Forgive me if I have used up a lot of space for a comment- but I am soo pissed. The Post used to stand for something!

Meg Greenfield's name should never be in the same sentence as Fred Asshat's. She was a truly classy lady.

In fact, another classy lady, Katie Graham, must be spinning in her grave at the regurgitated talking points that are quickly earning her beloved WaPo's editorial page the moniker of "Journal lite."

jeffgee--there is no so thing as hypocrisy as long as what you say is in the perpetuation of power.

Sadd-ama Hus-Laden is Emmanuel Goldstein.

If this isn't suit-and-tie-and-come-to-Jesus Orwell, I don't know what is. Apparently, Wal-Mart and tele-mega-Christianism are such potent opiates of us proles (OK, just the 53% who voted for that dumb fuck the second time) that L. Ron Hubbard would be envious.

Democrats CAN do something: Filibuster appropriations in the Senate. (As long as 41 TOTAL, R & D) refuse to vote for cloture; funding is cut off. WH & Co. is playing chicken with us.

Barbara

Maud, Fred Hiatt has a long wingnut career that goes back to the Washington Star, an afternoon paper (I once had a Washington Star paper route, coincidentally).

The question is why does Donald Graham employ him as editorial page editor. My current theory is Donald, a billionaire who inherited his empire, has more in common with the Richard Mellon-Scaifes and Pete Coors of the world than the people who made the Washington Post a great newspaper.

At any rate, Fred Hiatt reports directly to Donald Graham.

So long as the Repubs and the White House stonewall the way they have been doing, Democrats can do nothing. There are such things as vetoes and political maneuverings. There is a lot of politics with this issue. For example, if the Democrats don't fund the troops, they are cutting off their rations while they are in the war zone. This is not an easy position to defend if you are a Democrat.
However, Republicans will have a very short shelf life with the "surge" issue - as will George W Bush. Democrats need the support of some Republicans in order to succeed with any policy. The closer to the next election, the shakier will be the Republicans positions. It is sad and unfortunate that many people, including Americans, will die between now and then.

Since it's been at least 24 hours since I flamed Fred in the WaPo comments section:

QUOTE If progress does not occur, the military strategy should be reconsidered. But aggressive oversight is quite different from mandating military steps...UNQUOTE Wrong as usual, Fred Hiatt. Mandating military steps is the ONLY way to provide aggressive oversight of this deceitful, inept administration. This is why we voted this Congress into office. And do I really need to point out that you and your fellow Iraqi occupation cheerleaders have been just as wrong as President Fredo Corleone? Grampa Simpson has more dignity than you do.

By ifthethunderdontgetya | Mar 13, 2007 8:37:01 PM | Request Removal

Washington Post editorial page increasingly reads like the WSJ editorial page. We saw it with the Libby editorials. They have gone totally wingnut. Their op-ed page also heavily tilts in the neocon direction.

I have written off the WP editorial/op-ed pages.

They still have an OK news section. No telling how long that will last.

The WA Post has been drifting to the right for some time now, at least 2 years since I first noticed it. At first it was just Broder going righty but now it is the editoril staff as well and the publisher too. I write to them at least once a week about my concerns that the Post is losing it's focus and it's readers as well. I urge all to do the same.
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My goodness!...All the gnashing of teeth over the 'slide' of MSM journalism into the current cess-pool of wrongful opinionating on the Iraq debacle and the so-called 'war on terrorism'...

The WSJ, The WaPo, The NYT, Fox News Corp...does anybody bother to check the OWNERSHIP of those worthies? Could such proprietary interests maybe, just maybe, influence those mis-guided Fred Hiatts?

The Washington Post, the New York Times, Congress, and the executive branch have made it painfully obvious that they have no respect for the American people.

The pundit class has proven over the past six years that they do not know what they are doing, the government has proven that it does not know what it is doing, and all the king's horses and all the king's men haven't a clue as to how to put Middle East together again.

Our experts have made such a mess of everything that one might expect a bit of humility from them. But no, the dumber they are the more arrogant their attitudes. It's as if they believe that arrogance can carry them over the river of garbage that is of their making.

kentuck is right in both his(or her)posts. If the Dems cut the funding, they get blamed for the inevitable loss. The best thing to do is do what they can for VA, military hospitals, PTSD treatment, disability, etc.
The war belongs to Bush and the repugs.
The code is regret, which seems fitting, somehow.

personal responsbility
rule of law
respect for the troops

Shoot ... sounds Republican. Well, maybe "republican" ...

Too much was expected from the thug's November losses. They still have a filibuster lock on the Senate which won't be broken until 2008. And it's pretty clear they don't give a rat's ass what the American public actually wants. In the meantime, Dems are using the bright light of their subpoena power to illuminate the chicanery and greed for power of BushCo. They are also gaining more traction by sheer persistence in the media, comparing their sensible and responsive approaches to the Nation's woes with the "shut-up-and-shop" approach of Bush and his enablers. Short of impeachment looks like this will continue until January 2009.

The dems have to be very careful. It won't do anyone a bit of good for dems to get shafted by the GOP tricks and we end up with another crazy neocon White House and rubber stamp GOP congress for 8 more years, if we can survive that long under neocon rule. I personally wonder if we can survive a mere 2 more years of Cheney/Bush.

I just hope voters can understand that the dems are playing this the only way they can, for right now. They've only been in there for a couple of months, and we already have the Walter Reed, Plamegate as it relates to White House lies to get the US into Iraq and an foolish war effort, and US Attorney scandals being investigated.

It looks like they may already have the US Attorney General caught lying during congressional testimony. That's considerably more in the right direction than what was happening in the last 6 years, and that's just after a couple of months. I don't know how many of you saw the investigation panel on CSPAN about Walter Reed, where people finally got a chance to air their grievances to someone other than a Bushbot, and on CSPAN, for all to see.

It was obvious how mistreated these people had been under GOP congressional rule, the frustration boiling over after many years of being helpless and abused by a ruthless bureaucracy. One guy had quit his job and researched the legal violations so well that he was spouting off relevant legal code and violated policies like a lawyer.

So, I wouldn't be too harsh on democrats as they weave their way through a political maze the GOP has lined with boobytraps. I see it as very telling that very little is reported about the night and day contrast of the "sunlight" finally given to processes until very recently cloaked in GOP secrecy and corruption. there's a vary obvious difference. And, these observations are from a former GOP supporter, until it became obvious to me, after 9/11 2001, that they were no more than merciless, corrupt, lying and manipulative thugs.

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