Latest Bogus Media Line: Dems Offer Voters Nothing Beyond "Only" Investigating GOP
March 26, 2007 -- 03:19 PM EST // View Comments (83) // Post a Comment
It's getting harder and harder to open your newspaper or turn on your TV without hearing a variation of the claim that the Democratic Congressional majority is offering voters nothing beyond "only" investigating the GOP and the White House. Here's historian James Thurber, speaking to The New York Times's Adam Nagourney:
“If Democrats want to do well in 2008 on the House side and the Senate side, they have to show they can govern,” said James A. Thurber, director of the Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies at American University. “They have to show they can do more than investigate and push back on the president.”
Similarly, here's Washington Post columnist David Broder's latest column about the big new Pew poll:
But a word of caution is in order. There is little here that suggests voters' opinion of Democrats is much higher than it was when they lost Congress in 1994. It seems doubtful that Democrats can help themselves a great deal just by tearing down an already discredited Republican administration with more investigations such as the current attack on the Justice Department and White House over the firings of eight U.S. attorneys.At some point, Democrats have to give people something to vote for. People already know what they're against -- the Republicans.
Here are the problems with this argument. First and most obviously, both of these commentators surely know that Dems are in fact offering much more than mere investigations -- but they reflexively asserted otherwise, anyway. In the days before Thurber and Broder issued these pronouncements, House Democrats passed binding legislation mandating withdrawal from Iraq by Fall 2008 at the latest; meanwhile, the Dem Presidential candidates all backed the idea of comprehensive reform to provide universal health care. These are only the most visible and recent examples.
You can disagree with these. You can say that the Iraq withdrawal bill won't ultimately have real-world impact. You can say that the Dems haven't offered enough health care policy details. But one thing you can't do -- unless you're willingly succumbing to the worst and most banal type of hackery -- is pretend that these things didn't happen or don't matter. They represent real policy goals that Dems are laying out -- and as such, they are things that people can be for, despite stuffy pronouncements that no such things exist. As it happens, the American public is for them. Nearly six in 10 back the Congressionally-imposed Iraq withdrawal deadline, and solid majorities back not just government-guaranteed health care, but higher taxes to pay for it.
The second problem with this emerging line is the assumption underlying it: That Dem-led Congressional probes into GOP and White House malfeasance somehow don't constitute governing. But they do: They constitute a decision by the leaders of one branch of government to use the resources and powers granted them by voters to exercise oversight over another elective branch. This is a governing choice -- one that the GOP-led Congress declined to make, and that Dems are making now. As such, it, too, is something that voters can be for, despite dismissive sneering to the contrary. No question: Congressional Dems have tons more to do if they are to prove they can govern, win lasting public trust, and build a durable majority. But that doesn't mean it's okay for commentators to reflexively repeat the thoroughly bogus claim that Dems are offering nothing beyond "only" striving to impose oversight and accountability. Choose not to be a hack, please.
Update: Glenn Greenwald highlights a poll that shows that the American people see investigations into GOP malfeasance as something to be "for" by an overwhelming margin. It finds that 72% -- nearly three out of four -- think Congress should investigate the Attorney Purge, while only 21% think it shouldn't. Yet David Broder sneeringly describes this as nothing but a "tearing down" of the GOP.
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not only is it a governing choice, greg, but also the gop noted, over and over, prior to last fall's elections, that the dems would investigate (and even impeach!).
and the public managed to face up to that and vote for dems anyhow! indeed, the "corruption" issue was a very important one according to exit polls.
which is to say that as far as one can tell, the dems have the approval of the public to investigate.
Posted by: howardDate: March 26, 2007 03:31 PM
yeah, you're right, howard. I've been searching for polls showing support for Dem investigations. the exit polls of course did show this.
Posted by: gregDate: March 26, 2007 03:33 PM
A month ago, Broderella wrote an infamous column in which he predicted Bush regaining his footing.
Now, Broderella writes to tell us unwashed masses that of course no one likes Bush, everyone knows that! So why bother investigating him and his cronies? After all it makes for such unpleasantness at cocktail parties.
Posted by: r€natoDate: March 26, 2007 03:41 PM
Rove's math again. It trumps everything. Reality has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: TheraPDate: March 26, 2007 03:52 PM
"At some point, Democrats have to give people something to vote for."
They did. It was called the mid-term election in 2006 and the majority of the people voted for DEMOCRATS! Two questions: Who takes Broder seriously anymore and why hasn't he hung it up already?
Date: March 26, 2007 03:52 PM
I've come to the conclusion that primary goal of news organizations like CNN is to keep controversy just under the boiling point at all times in order to keep people watching. It has nothing at all to do with reporting the news. They're just trying to twist things in a way that keeps the ratings as high as possible. So Dana Bash and John Roberts can sit and smirk about all the "pork" in the House version of the Iraq funding bill, not because they don't absolutely understand why it's there, but because the powers that be have decided that's now the issue, and not the bill itself. Whatever sells the most ad minutes...
I heard Ted Turner complain bitterly awhile back about how the organization he founded had gone from reporting "hard news" to becoming "another one of these 'infotainment' type of deals." He said if he had known what they were going to do to CNN, he never would have let them get their hands on it.
Posted by: Mark F.Date: March 26, 2007 03:53 PM
I can understand the ignorance on the part of those polled. There has been little in the MSM other than the USA purge. The health care initiative among other ongoing projects are not reported. How can the masses know if there is not reporting. I am fortunate that I can spend time here at TPM and the associated reporting, AmericaBlog, even Rawstory, to learn what the MSM seems to prefer that we remain ignorant of.
Thanks to all you people.
Date: March 26, 2007 04:02 PM
Not to mention the minimum wage, stem cell research, global warming, and all those other bits of "governing" that the Democrats have done that people are "for" by a wide margin. Unlike the past six years of Republican congresses that did virtually nothing but give away the treasury to their friends and contributors, these ludicrous commentators appear to be unable to wrap their minds around the idea that Congress can do more than one thing at a time, and the fact that one story is making headlines doesn't mean they're not doing anything else.
Posted by: RedshiftDate: March 26, 2007 04:12 PM
yeah, those are absolutely critical examples, too. what I find really striking about this is that Broder of course knows about these things. but he simply can't help repeating that idiotic line -- it's either reflexive, in which case it's hackery, or it's deliberate, in which case it's dishonest...
Posted by: GregDate: March 26, 2007 04:14 PM
As a concerned voter, the Democrats are doing exactly what I would want them to do. Somebody has to lance the boil and let all the pus out. We've had six years of maneuvering to consolidate political power. It's an extremely ugly thought but I believe the Iraq fiasco was driven by poltical considerations - a little shock and awe, a despot falls, a fool is esteemed a peerless leader. Classic hubris. Whatever you call this it's not governing. Governing is putting the welfare of the American people first. Despite the tiresome pundits, the Democrats are doing this.
Posted by: rankopinionDate: March 26, 2007 04:18 PM
What rankopinion said. I want the Dems to do what they can, given the constraints of Senate filibusters and Presidential vetoes, to increase the minimum wage, bring the war in Iraq to an end, and find out just what the Executive Branch has been up to for the past six years, while no one's been looking. If they've been abusing the public trust, shoveling money to their friends, and turning supposedly neutral Cabinet agencies into part of their electoral machinery, then by God I want to know about it, with all the whos, whens, wheres, hows, and whys.
The Dems are doing that. Thank goodness someone is. The GOP had their chance, and chose to be Bush's flock of sheep. Sheep are good followers, but lousy at governing.
Posted by: RTDate: March 26, 2007 04:49 PM
People like Broder, Woodward, and Thurber seem to me to have become reflexively institutionalized, a trait on display at its most disgusting at White House Press Dinner, or whatever in hell it's called, when pretty much everyone but David Corn thought Bush's routine looking for WMDs in the Oval Office was funny. They remind why, in my youth, we wound up so disgusted with Washington "elders."
The code word is small, rather like their perspectives.
Posted by: DavidDate: March 26, 2007 05:09 PM
The real question is: What are the Republicans offering these days? Continued efforts to rubberstamp the president's destructive and/or incompetent and/or dishonest presidency? Continued obstructionism in opposing the will of the American people by fighting to keep the president's moronic war going as long as possible?
I realize the Democrats are in the driver's seat now, so the onus is on them. But how could ANYONE compare the last few months with the last six years and come to the conclusion that the Democrats are doing nothing? Unless, of course, they're a bunch of partisan hacks, or worse: unprincipled, spineless, toadying nitwits who would say whatever their editors and producers told them to say in order to keep their pointless jobs.
Posted by: Mark F.Date: March 26, 2007 05:22 PM
I'm not sure that it accomplishes anything to launch against Broder again. He's rather like Hitchens in his level of wrong-headed arrogance. We're blessed not to have him staining the pages of the local daily any longer, and I suggest not linking to him anymore and letting him falter, stutter and slide into the gutter with the rest of the print pundits.
Posted by: Radio HeadDate: March 26, 2007 05:29 PM
yeah, there's something to that. in this case, the only defense is perhaps that he's one representative of a larger media trend...
Posted by: gregDate: March 26, 2007 05:33 PM
it's either reflexive, in which case it's hackery, or it's deliberate, in which case it's dishonest...
Or it's reflexive dishonest hackery, which on the surface, sounds meaningless, but actually captures how Broder sometimes seems.
I thought I heard this same meme this morning on NPR--but I also thought that there seemed to be some pushback on this--was I hallucinating when I thought I heard Cokie Robers say that the Democrats might actually have a point?
Date: March 26, 2007 05:56 PM
Opposing Democratic investigations of Republican malfeasance is support for the status quo of the last six years of Bush administration rule. The Democrats will only acquire the power to move their agenda through the Congress and Senate, past vetoes and signing statements and into law and practice by exposing the way in which the Republicans in the White House have been running this country. Only in that way will it be possible to prevent even the most well-intentioned and broadly-supported legislation from being corrupted with amendments or eviscerated when it's turned over to executive branch offices staffed with Bush appointees for enactment.
Discrediting the Bush order is politics, but not in the pejorative sense where the word has become nothing more than a synonym for partisan gamesmanship. Rather, it is politics in the sense of acquiring the power needed to get what you want done. Fortuitously, since the Bush administration has been extremely helpful by running the most corrupt regime in living memory, the Democratic investigations are also upholding the rule of law in the land.
Date: March 26, 2007 06:28 PM
Astoundingly, it seems that the default mode for Washington journalists is to assume that the US attorney probe is merely a political move to score points agains the republicans.
They compare it to the Republican effort to impeach Clinton, which was overblown on the facts, instead of making the much closer comparisson to Watergate. This US att. scandal is, like Watergate, an effort to use the levers of government to subvert the electoral process. In fact it is worse than Watergate because the Bush administration is also trying to cover up out-and-out corruption.
It seems that the Washington press corps has really lost it's way. They can't help but commenting on this like it's a basketball game.
Posted by: cvDate: March 26, 2007 06:49 PM
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More than that. By engaging us in an unneccessary and controversial war and by refusing to fully commit the resources needed to win it, the Administration created the ultimate political wedge issue. Bush ran for re-election as the "war president," and to some extent the 2008 presidential election will also be a referendum on the war. They've spent the last four years decrying any kind of opposition to the war as at best, undermining the troops and at worst, as treason. Failure in Iraq allows the Republican party to brandish a "stab-in-the-back" smear against its opponents for a generation to come. At the moment that strategy doesn't seem to be working so well, but who knows what events will transpire in the near future to make it useful again.
In the meantime, Republican corruption--which occurred on a possibly unprecedented scale--is one reason the Democrats won Congress. Oversight of the executive branch is an important charge they now have, and doing so most certainly demonstrates that the Democrats are capable of governing.
Posted by: efc1918Date: March 26, 2007 10:49 PM
Health care? War in Iraq? Clearly what is needed to impress the pundocracy is legislation involving something important; like banning flag burning and gay marriage.
Posted by: b.Date: March 26, 2007 11:08 PM
That's the GOP plan, lie, cheat and steal as long as they can, then call it senseless negativity when the US citizenry elects people who will investigate?
The GOP is all about negativity. They been selling it for the last 6 years, telling us they we'll all be destroyed if we don't support endless war. I'm sick of it.
I agree with a guy I heard on CSPAN. If it's between the religious crazies and the socialists...I pick the socialists.
Posted by: Jason357Date: March 27, 2007 11:47 AM
In addition to the examples offered, there are also ones of what Congress currently is NOT doing, and why that's good for the American people after 12 yrs of Repub congressional rule. Dems have rejected the administration's proposals for massive cuts to Medicare and Medicaid in the budget resolution moving through Congress right now. Dems have provided for funding for children's health programs in the supplemental and in the budget, far above what the administration miserly says is needed. Maybe these reporters oughta go ask some old, sick and low-income people about those non-accomplishments.
Posted by: WDCDate: March 27, 2007 01:57 PM
If that were all the Dems were doing, it would be enough.
Posted by: ClaimsmanDate: March 28, 2007 12:23 AM
unbelievable email from Time's Managing Editor, Stengel -- http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/03/in_which_my_boss_responds_to_m.html
simply unreal.
Posted by: amberglowDate: March 28, 2007 02:39 AM
I'm not so sure the Dems are offering what the voters think they are. The poll mentioned asks the question,
"The Congress is now debating future funding for the war in Iraq. Would you like to see your Congressional representative vote FOR or AGAINST a bill that calls for a withdrawal of troops from Iraq to be completed by August of 2008?"
My reading of the bill indicates that troops can be left behind to protect the diplomats, train Iraqis, and go after al-Qaeda. A reasonable estimate for the number of forces for this task is 40-80,000 troops (see ISG report). So this bill proposes bringing 1/2 to 2/3s of the troops home.
The poll question didn't ask if voters wanted to bring 1/2 the troops home by Aug 2008.
So the dems are offering something--just not what people think they are doing. And when voters figure that one out they are going to be sadly disappointed.
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