Newsflash: Another Bogus "Hillary Is Calculating" Non-Story Bites The Dust
April 30, 2007 -- 6:12 PM EST // View Comments (114) // Post a Comment
As you may know by now, the non-story of the day surrounding Hillary Clinton is that she apparently uses the name "Hillary Clinton" on Presidential campaign material while sticking with "Hillary Rodham Clinton" on her Senate-related stuff.
This alleged "gotcha" story was first pushed by Hearst newspapers in a piece linked (natch) on Drudge, Newsmax, Free Republic and a few other far-flung outposts in the wingnuttia hinterlands. It's now the subject of an Associated Press story -- carried by ABC, CBS, Fox, CNN and others -- that actually says in its lede that Hillary has an "identity crisis." Both the Hearst and AP stories strongly imply that Hillary's people are calculatingly using "Rodham" to speak to the New York audience while sticking with "Hillary Clinton" to appeal to the national audience. Says Hearst:
Clinton identifies herself as "Hillary Clinton" in her campaign press releases and on her campaign website. The lone mention of her maiden name is in a campaign biography that says "Hillary's father, Hugh Rodham, was the son of a factory worker from Scranton."She continues to use "Hillary Rodham Clinton" in her New York-focused press releases and in the Senate.
Okay -- how to explain this, then?
Someone has just sent me the text of six political ads and two press releases from Hillary's 2000 and 2006 Senate reelection campaigns in New York. In all of them, Hillary is defined as -- yup -- "Hillary Clinton." From the 2006 New York campaign there's this ad:
Narrator: Hillary Clinton has fought to limit the sale of violent video games to our children, worked to improve our ability to track sexual offenders and to protect our kids from internet predators. In the senate, Hillary Clinton has fought tirelessly to protect children. She always has, she always will.Clinton: I’m Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.
And this one:
Narrator: They stand up every day for our state and our country, so Hillary Clinton has fought for them...Time and again, Hillary Clinton has stood up for the brave men and women who stand up for us.Clinton: I’m Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.
From a New York Senate campaign press release on September 13, 2000:
“Rick Lazio’s ad is false. Hillary Clinton was one of the first in the country to support teacher testing. New Yorkers have a real choice in this race between Hillary Clinton who has been a leader, one of the first in the country to support teacher testing, and Rick Lazio, who has followed the Republican Leadership and voted repeatedly to cut education,” said Clinton Campaign Communications Director Howard Wolfson.
From another one on October 10, 2000:
HILLARY CLINTON: FIGHTING TO HELP PARENTS PROTECT THEIR CHILDREN
And I've got more. Does this conclusively prove that the campaign hasn't made an internal decision to stick with "Hillary Clinton" for national appeal? No, but it certainly makes it awfully difficult to sustain the notion that this represents a shift born of geographic political calculation. It's unclear, in fact, that there was any kind of shift of this sort in any meaningful sense at all, really. After all, Camp Hillary, and Hillary herself, were calling her "Hillary Clinton" way back in 2000, and as recently as 2006, and in both cases they were speaking exclusively to New Yorkers.
I mean, come on now. Can't we stop with this silliness? Ever?
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Agreed. Having lived in NY for both elections, I know she was primarily Hillary Clinton. Wanna bet there's a scandalous AP story from 7 years ago regarding the fact she used Hillary Clinton and dropped the Rodham? Comon guys, get some new material
Posted by: JamesDate: April 30, 2007 6:29 PM
James -- great idea. I'll bet there is one. I'm gonna try to dig it up if it exists...
Posted by: GregDate: April 30, 2007 6:30 PM
Unfortunately Greg, you won't be able to stop because the silliness will continue right up until the moment Hillary is no longer involved in politics. As I'm sure you already know.
Posted by: idealistic cynicDate: April 30, 2007 6:32 PM
You gotta go with what you've got. Including when you've got *nothing*.
Posted by: MarkinsanfranDate: April 30, 2007 6:34 PM
That said, she definitely went by "Hillary Rodham Clinton" during the first Bill Clinton presidential campaign in '92. I have no doubt the choice to switch to "Hillary Clinton" had some post-Monica, post-Health Care Reform failure, and post-feminist political considerations behind it. That a noteworthy story does not make, however.
Posted by: AlexDate: April 30, 2007 6:35 PM
This is ridiculous. Can we please move on to the real issue of who cuts her hair and how much it costs?
Posted by: Mike M.Date: April 30, 2007 6:38 PM
I just read a poll that suggests that the Dems may pick up an additional 9 seats in 2008.
We'll have the last laugh, not just in watching Bush hand the presidency to the Dems, but in watching the well-deserved destruction of the Republican party. And they can't say they haven't earned that destruction.
Years before I was old enough to vote my parents warned me that the GOP was the party of greed and oligarchy.
Nothing has changed.
Hillary is not my first choice for prez, but I'll vote for her if nominated and laugh my ass off when she wins.
Posted by: orpheus from the upperworldDate: April 30, 2007 6:49 PM
Perhaps even more ridiculous is this from the AP story:
"But, in the wake of his loss in a re-election race for governor, she began using "Hillary Clinton." He won back the governorship."
Yes, Bill Clinton winning back the governorship of Arkansas had something to do with whether or not people referred to the first lady as Hillary Rodham or Hillary Clinton.
I would think they might drop Rodham for the sake of brevity. It just seems a little wordy/lengthy to put Rodham in every single utterance of her name. Hillary Clinton is the shorthand.
It's not like William Jefferson Clinton would have been faulted for dropping the Jefferson in some of his press releases when he used Bill Clinton instead.
Posted by: ohiomeisterDate: April 30, 2007 6:51 PM
How about some attention to the fact that the mainstream media quote often refer to Sen. Clinton as 'Hillary'?
Do we hear Sen. Obama referred to as "Barack"? No. He's "Obama" or "Senator Obama". And the same for the other Presidential candidates. Only "Hillary" is on a first-name basis.
Call me a cynic, but I think this is an intentionally derisive way to refer to Clinton, and also conveniently and constantly highlights the fact that she's a woman.
How can the MSM gripe and invent issues about Clinton's use or non-use of her maiden name if they can't even bring themselves to pay her the respect of using her last name?
Posted by: Jeff FieldsDate: April 30, 2007 6:54 PM
As if the voting public thinks there's more than one "Hillary" running for President.
The Repubs seem so afraid, they're trying to make voters wonder "which" Hillary they would be voting for. Love her or leave her, there's only one. Just as there's only one George Bush and Karl Rove.
Posted by: mbbsdphilDate: April 30, 2007 6:58 PM
It's just PR versus marketing. On ads, her Web site, and other "public" venues, she uses her first and last name. Like most people would. After all, even though she's a candidate, she's still a private citizen like us. But in remarks published for posterity. For history. She honors her father's legacy -- and her own personhood before Bill rolled up. I bet her checkbook reads "Hillary Rodham Clinton." Her bills. The same. Legal documents. Natch. But I bet most of her personal correspondence comes from "Hillary Clinton." Schizophrenic? Then we are, too!
Posted by: IncandenzaHDate: April 30, 2007 6:59 PM
@cynic wrote:
> the silliness will continue right up until the moment Hillary is no longer involved in politics.
No, it'll continue right up until everyone left of Rush Limbaugh completely gives up.
As for "Hillary" being a derisive reference: no way. Her own campaigns have done it, I think. The problem being that "Clinton", used by itself, already means someone, and that someone isn't her. Is that sexist? Well, the other "Clinton" was President for eight years; let Hillary get elected President, and then we'll see who gets to be "Clinton".
Posted by: Ben RosengartDate: April 30, 2007 7:11 PM
It's only an issue for those who fear the loss of the schoolyard taunt, calling her Hillary 'Rotten' Clinton.
Posted by: meDate: April 30, 2007 7:30 PM
Ya know . . . Mitt was "Oven" Mitt before he was married. I think we need more details. There's a story here & maybe more.
Posted by: az5762Date: April 30, 2007 7:35 PM
It's funny that anyone in the press is paying attention to this, given that no one seemed to notice that George Bush Jr. (so called when he was seeking contracts and his father was VP) became George W. Bush for political advantage when he wanted to keep the name but not be a 'junior'.
It's also funny to note that they find it fascinating that someone might use their full name for official business and an abbreviated version for public communication. After all, her husband went by "Bill Clinton", yet signed his name "William Jefferson Clinton". He obviously was a hypocrit name changer, ashamed to be name after Jefferson.
Posted by: FidesDate: April 30, 2007 7:37 PM
What if she did use "Rodham" in-state, but not nationally?
Nothing, that's what. It's a stupid story and a pointless "smear".
The Rovian machine does this all the time - put out a false or partially-true story about a Dem, a story that could only be construed as 'negative' by one of the 30% Bush dead-enders, and then watch and laugh as the Dems get all worked up debunking the story.
This story is hardly worth debunking. It's always good to set the record straight, but the larger take-away here should be "So what?"
What a ridiculous attempt at a smear.
Posted by: VictorLaszloDate: April 30, 2007 7:39 PM
Oscar may drop Mayer from his name.
And he is a wienie.
I am not sure if this helps, could someone call Hearst?
Posted by: ShawnHarmonDate: April 30, 2007 7:40 PM
Hillary,...Hillary Rodham,...Hillary Rodham Clinton, It makes not a damn thing but a gossipers item. She is a good person and a smart politician. I hope she wins the presidency.
Posted by: dudesonDate: April 30, 2007 7:55 PM
Very mysogynistic. How any woman could vote for anyone who supported this kind of behavior is beyond me.
They hate her without reason, without logic of any kind. Their hatred is visceral. And she has done nothing to deserve it except perhaps this:
She is, very simply, one of the most successful women in American history.
Posted by: MichaelDate: April 30, 2007 8:07 PM
Mike L. - LOL!! You're right, the Reprobate Party will discuss anything but the real issues.
Posted by: DoingNuanceDate: April 30, 2007 8:11 PM
...........
How in the world do the folks at Drudge, Newsmax and Free Republic manage to constantly pull facts from their asses with their heads so firmly lodged there?
Maybe it's just practice, practice, practice?
...........
Posted by: draftedin68Date: April 30, 2007 8:12 PM
Spare the Rodham, spoil the child?
(rimshot)
Posted by: Grant LaughlinDate: April 30, 2007 8:21 PM
Another place where the Right Wing Victrola has gotten its hooks into me: I refer to her as "Hitlery." Y'know, how some wiseacres use the word, "internets," or use the misspelling, "teh," for the?
Security code: "Hitlery." Wow, talk about your coincidences!
Posted by: JimmmDate: April 30, 2007 8:24 PM
"Hillary" is not really meant as a slander. The Clinton campaign has consciously emphasized "Hillary for President" (check her website). It's an attempt to personalize her. I've had this discussion with a friend considering a run for office. Using "Hillary" is a good way to counter the whole "calculating" aspect that the right has spent millions trying to attach to her. If the media is attempting to use "Hillary" as a slight against her, I don't think the campaign would complain.
Posted by: gqmartinezDate: April 30, 2007 8:48 PM
Seems to me I recall Marilyn Tucker Quayle morphing to Marilyn Quayle during the campaign for Bush I and her husband, Dan. Don't recall if MSM made big deal of it then.
Posted by: just plain jayneDate: April 30, 2007 8:57 PM
This is such non-story. Is Greg Sargent paid by Hillary for President? Why does he fly off the handle so fast to defend her, even on such isignifcant reports. Me thinks he knows how vulnerable she is. The majority of Americans will NEVER vote for Hillary, Greg, and many of them are Democrats. Sorry
Posted by: party-of-oneDate: April 30, 2007 9:34 PM
Here in Houston our driver's license read
Jane Brown Smith--Jane Brown being her maiden name of course----I remember reading a comment when she dropped Rodham---also my voter registration reads the same.
Posted by: susan j. dittmanDate: April 30, 2007 9:39 PM
A single name moniker places HIllary in the pantheon with the likes of Madonna, Cher, and Oprah. Seems like pretty good company. Celebrity sells. Just look at Ahnold's campaign. If she becomes the nominee she can't lose.
Posted by: DugoDate: April 30, 2007 9:55 PM
While the maiden name issue is silly, the underlying implication -- that Mrs. Clinton is so calculating that she appears to have no core identity -- is not. As a recent Mother Jones article aptly summarized, it seems that there are no fewer than 10 Hillary Clintons, ranging from empathetic mother to iron-willed Maggie Thatcher to Machiavelli redux. While many of these identities are right wing inventions to characterize her as a flip-flopper, she also invites these attacks by continuously reinventing herself, her history, even her accent. I agree that there is much to like about her, but, like Al Gore, her self-induced inconsistencies (is being compared to Madonna really a good thing in presidential politics?) may be her undoing.
Posted by: demoDanDate: April 30, 2007 10:44 PM
Why does anyone pay attention to this type of junk? It seems that we as a country are determined to choose our leaders based on such important criteria as a haircut, a scream, a maiden name. In the meantime the country is at war, health care costs are going through the roof, global warming may have reached the crisis stage. . .
Has it occurred to anyone that Drudge et al. may deliberately spread lies about such trivia in order to distract the opposition? The more time we spend responding to nonsense, the less time we spend talking about things that really matter.
Date: April 30, 2007 10:45 PM
We all know that "making shit up" is a lot easier than finding bad but verifiable stuff about the Republicans' political enemies. And in today's America, over 35% may never figure out the difference soon enough to do any good, sadly.
Posted by: JamesDate: May 1, 2007 12:27 AM
Tempest in a teapot, yada yada...
But still: She signs books "Hillary Rodham Clinton."
Posted by: Hillary ShmillaryDate: May 1, 2007 12:36 AM
Cripes! If she ever happens to sign something Hillary R. Clinton" it'll be an obvious sign of the "end-time".
Posted by: BroDDate: May 1, 2007 6:31 AM
re: whether this is an important story or not...
It is meant to feed into the "Hillary is a calculating bitch" character assassination storyline of this particular candidate. These "unimportant" stories got us "Kerry the Coward" and "Mr. Ozone said he invented the internet."
If you don't mind the other Party demonizing our candidates with their tiny but constant drip, drip, drip then ignore these attacks.
And then it will soon be "a fact" that Hillary Clinton is a calculating bitch.
Democrats don't do this. Giulani isn't a closet transsexual, or McCain a nasty crazy bastard, or Romney a religious snake-handler. But we all know Barack Obama's middle name by now, don't we?
Ignore this crap at the peril of our own candidates in the general election. Teamwork starts NOW.
Posted by: JanDate: May 1, 2007 6:59 AM
Remember when Ronald REE-gan changed his name to RAY-gan.
Pretty calculating if you ask me.
Posted by: Virginia DutchDate: May 1, 2007 8:34 AM
I sincerely wonder how in the hell drudge, limbaugh, etc live with themselves knowing what criminal scum they support. Not just that but that they would be so willing to throw balls of monkey shit at decent people who arent criminals and who would actually like to work for america. Bush and his crew are no better than any murderous mafia that ever existed. Time will define these people for the propagandists they are. In limbaughs case he's a bottum feeding drug smuggler, money lauderer and dope addict but all that's okay because he makes piles of filthy lucre by spewing twisted lies into the garbage can ears of his mindless sadistic listeners and they dont care what he's "on" as long as he gives them their "fix".
Posted by: lower tiberiusDate: May 1, 2007 8:59 AM
Wait! Hasn't the Prez changed HIS name from "AntiChrist" to "W"? Where's the story on that? BTW - what WAS his frat-boy name, anyway?
Code word nation - can we get on with the business of ours, please?
Posted by: Bob in AZDate: May 1, 2007 8:59 AM
The significance of the story is non-existent. There wasn't a need for yet another "Hillary as victim" blog post on TPM. Beyond the die-hard blog junkies nobody cares what she calls herself at any particular point.
She gets the calculating rap because she often seems to be choosing and timing her words and positions so carefully to offend the least number of people while attracting the maximum number votes. It's an impression that people don't get just from reading Drudge or the wingnut bloggers. Wrong or right, it's something that a lot of people see just from her own speeches and actions.
Posted by: HelterSDate: May 1, 2007 9:29 AM
Re Jeff, above, on Media's use of "Hillary": this is old territory, but note: SHE uses it in her own media releases. And unlike "Barack," there's a risk of confusion if they refer to her as "Clinton." "Senator Clinton" works, but again, she uses "Hillary" quite a bit in her campaign materials, so it doesn't seem insulting for them to do it.
This whole business of interpreting every jot and tittle of the Symbolic Campaign, if I can use that expression for it, is all cut from the same cloth. Sometimes it's just screamingly unavoidable, but on the whole the less discussion of haircuts and clothing and whatnot the better, on all sides.
Posted by:Date: May 1, 2007 9:40 AM
Nice work Greg.
Because it's not about Hillary. It's about the "liberal media" feeling free to trash a dem [any dem] candidate for president.
Because it's not about what bloggers know.
It's about what the people that elect presidents, ma and pa kettle and joe and jane sixpack, know about dem candidates.
Posted by: hadenoughDate: May 1, 2007 11:34 AM
I mean, come on now. Can't we stop with this silliness? Ever?
No Mr. Sargent, the lapdog press poodles can no sooner stop this silliness then they can exist with out breathing.
Posted by: Commander OggDate: May 1, 2007 11:40 AM
Remember Christine TODD Whitman dropped her middle name after she ran the first time for Governor of NJ..... She taked it back on after she left the EPA post in Washington......... Nobody has reported anything unusual about that... The double news standard goes on and on..... ;-)
Posted by: J. D.Date: May 1, 2007 11:50 AM
I'm no fan of Hillary and I think she is a calculating politician but this is such a stupid story. Big surprise that she uses her full name in her official capacity (i.e., Senate letterhead and web site) and just "Hillary Clinton" in campaign materials. Who doesn't?
My guess is that if you compare the official letterhead of the 535 members of Congress with their campaign lit, the vast majority of them would have their formal name on their official letterhead and a more informal name (e.g., Jim or Jimmy instead of James) on their campaign lit? So, are they all calculating politicians trying to appear more "regular folks" for the voters? Well, YEAH.
This is a story?
Posted by: Big Sky DemDate: May 1, 2007 1:13 PM
Actually, I do think this is a relevant issue and it reinforces my opinion of her. She changed her name just so Bill would get more votes in Arkansas. She voted for the Iraqi War just so she would get more votes in her run for president. One can be predicted from the other: someone whose ambition would cause her to change something as important as her NAME --who would ditch her very identity just for a few more votes-- is obviously someone who cannot be trusted to take a moral stand on anything. So it was no surprise when she betrayed the voters of New York and voted for the war.
She's happy to be Hillary Clinton or even Mrs. William Clinton when that helps her, but switches right back to Hillary Rodham Clinton when she's wooing the feminist base of her party. I'm a feminist and I would have voted for Hillary Rodham or Hillary Clinton, but I won't be fooled by a chameleon. She doesn't even have enough courage to stand up for HERSELF by consistently using the name she prefers. She's as spineless as Bill but with none of the charisma.
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