Malkin Slides Deeper And Deeper Into Self-Parody
April 26, 2007 -- 9:32 AM EST // View Comments (121) // Post a Comment

It's hard to be surprised by the antics of the wingnut bloggers, but every now again you come across something that proves them to be so utterly without irony -- so completely lacking in basic literacy and self-awareness -- that you can only sit back and marvel in amazement at the spectacle they make of themselves.

Case in point: Here's Michelle Malkin, attacking this blog because of this post yesterday previewing David Broder's column today. Malkin is blasting us over the fact that the post began with the words "blogswarm alert!" -- which she took as a sign that we were literally ordering the "nutroots" to wage "preemptive" war on the WaPo over the Broder column.

Michelle, please take a moment to bone up on the meanings of the words "literal" and "irony." This was not a literal call for a blogswarm, you silly figure of fun. It was meant ironically -- that is, as a gently self-mocking way of acknowledging that this column would create yet another anti-Broder blogswarm in the liberal blogosphere. Hence the word "alert," as in, "tornado alert" -- you know, as if to say, "here comes a blogswarm."

What makes this really rich, though, is that Malkin herself has in fact commanded her readership of pod people to march into battle against her foes -- she has ordered blogswarms of her own. Remember when Malkin ordered a blogswarm of some antiwar students in California by posting their names and addresses on her blog?

After nationally syndicated columnist and blogger Michelle Malkin posted the e-mail addresses and phone numbers of three members of Students Against War, they received a flood of obscene and harassing messages from around the country, including death threats...

"I woke up in the morning and my cell had 14 new messages, 25 missed calls and it kept going on," said SAW member David Zlutnick, estimating the group's three media contacts have already sifted through 500 e-mails, more than 100 with death threats.

After a troubled woman who was involved in that political fight committed suicide (no, I'm not blaming you, Michelle, sorry), Malkin actually smeared the dead woman, calling her a "corruptocrat." This is the person who's pillorying this blog for allegedly ordering a blogswarm. Meanwhile, here is another wingnut blogger, congratulating Malkin for breaking "the story" of our alleged blogswarm command, as if this was somehow a scoop.

Really, the silliness and lack of self-awareness on the part of these jokers just defy belief and parody.


Update: And let's not forget this bit of Malkin buffoonery posted yesterday by Atrios.

Update II: Some readers ask why we bother engaging the likes of Malkin. Good question. Answer: Purely for the entertainment value. Nothing more.


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COMMENTS:

Did someone say, "defies belief and parody?"

Now this defies belief and parody.

Posted by:
Date: April 26, 2007 10:28 AM

wow -- was that posted at hot air?

Posted by: Greg
Date: April 26, 2007 10:31 AM

Anyone who makes cheezy cheers as dressed like a human version of an Anime Cheerleader should not be throwing stones.

Posted by: Former Dan
Date: April 26, 2007 10:33 AM

Yes, Sarge. But, respectfully, please don't use irony in the future -- we had all our leftwing commandos on full blogswarm alert and had recalled the remaining Weather Underground members from their furlough in Acapulco. We're a little literal-minded here at Vast Leftwing Conspiracy Headquarters.

Posted by: MarkC
Date: April 26, 2007 10:33 AM

Let's not be too hard on poor Michelle. She's trying desperately to deflect attention from that god-awful ridiculous video of her in the Catholic schoolgirl outfit from yesterday. She's gotta do something.

Posted by: CatStaff
Date: April 26, 2007 10:34 AM

hey all, does anyone have a link to the actual hot air post where they showed the vid of cheerleading malkin?

Posted by: Greg
Date: April 26, 2007 10:35 AM

Greg, I love this blog and all, but enough of the false modesty. Everyone here knows that while Kos is the public face of the liberal blogosphere, and Atrios its chief spokesperson, they are mere figureheads, and The Horse's Mouth really gives the orders. Honestly, if it wasn't for the readers that you threw its way, would anyone actually be reading the WaPo anymore?

Snark aside, as to that last question, one can ask why the Post is so committed to making Brad DeLong's most pessimistic predictions about it come true...

Posted by: jfaberuiuc
Date: April 26, 2007 10:37 AM

I truly think the cheerleader bit will bite Malkin in the ass. Malkin has unconsciously hit upon what she thinks the proper role for Democrats during a war is supposed to be: cheerleader. Indeed, the only proper role for any patriotic American is to cheer the troops on.

According to this mindset, things like bullets and bombs do not decide the outcome of military confrontations - everything comes down to morale. It's the "clap harder" theory of combat.

Malkin looks so profoundly juvenile in this clip it's going to be hard for anybody to take her seriously ever again. Of course, I would have thought that point was passed a long time ago, but she looks particularly ridiculous here.

Posted by: Whispers
Date: April 26, 2007 10:37 AM

Atrios had a link to the video yesterday, is it gone now?

Maybe even Malkin has a sense of shame and embarrassment.

Posted by: r€nato
Date: April 26, 2007 10:38 AM

Is Michelle Malkin the comic who smashes the watermelons with the big mallet?

Posted by: Kevin K.
Date: April 26, 2007 10:38 AM

Gimme a "B"! Gimme an "L"! Gimme a . . . oh, nevermind.

Posted by: Awkward Silence
Date: April 26, 2007 10:39 AM

"wow -- was that posted at hot air?

Posted by: Greg"

Yes:
http://hotair.com/?episode_id=7392

Posted by: hadenough
Date: April 26, 2007 10:41 AM

thanks -- I just updated with Atrios' link to the vid.

Posted by: Greg
Date: April 26, 2007 10:42 AM

Poor Michelle. When your opponents use your own work, complete and uncut, to ridicule you, you should just give up.

Posted by: Njorl
Date: April 26, 2007 10:47 AM

Silly Malkin. Doesn't she know we only take orders from Kommandant Kos?

Posted by: dwbh
Date: April 26, 2007 10:53 AM

At first I thought the video was a lampoon by a look-alike as "AtlasJugs" is. But it was real! Did she think the cheer up herself, or did some subconsciously evil genius right-wing hack associate put her up to it? Whoa! On the bright side, when one never had any "journalistic integrity" (or any pretense to it),one has none to lose.

Posted by: p.a.
Date: April 26, 2007 10:54 AM

Greg, why are you engaging a shrill harpy like Malkin? I don't get it. She's a smirking, if honking, great ignoramus who knows nothing from nothing.

Posted by: boilerman10
Date: April 26, 2007 10:58 AM

boilerman, purely for the entertainment value. nothing more.

Posted by: Greg
Date: April 26, 2007 11:00 AM

It's a little thing, but look how she posts selected comments from here in a way that it makes it look like she is showing a continuous thread. So in other words she makes her carefully selected comments look representative.

Posted by: Crust
Date: April 26, 2007 11:02 AM

You know, when I saw the horrible video Cho Seung-Hui sent to NBC, like most people I felt like I got hit in the gut and couldn't breathe.
But there was something else about watching Cho Seung Hui that really creeped me out, that I couldn't quite put my finger on for days until today when I saw a creepy video of Michelle Malkin in some bizarre Cheerleader role.
Watching Cho you see the facial expressions of an insane person exuding so much hatred that it really sends chills down your spine. When you watch a video of Michelle Malkin, you see virtually the same thing. It’s really chilling.
I don’t make this comparison because both Cho and Malkin are of Asian heritage, either.
It’s the hatred, the venom spewing, the crazy, insane rantings and facial expressions.
If you feel like subjecting yourself to a little mental anguish, watch a video of Malkin, then a video of Cho and you will see exactly what I am talking about.
It’s obvious that Malkin is always trying to contain her rage in her videos, except for the many times when she just lets it out, when she channels her inner Cho.

Posted by: OxyCon
Date: April 26, 2007 11:04 AM

The irony to me is that anyone would pay any attention

Posted by: Gary
Date: April 26, 2007 11:06 AM

I may not have the popularity or the media presence of Ms. Malkin, but I have written any number of blog posts these last years exhorting fellow Democrats and like-minded progressives and independents to take action and get involved.

Of course, the action I talk about involves debating and discussing the issues of the day with our fellow citizens, petitioning our leaders and news corporations, and using our rights to free speech and assembly to express our views.

That approach seemed to work pretty well in California's 11th Congressional District and nationwide in 2006.

There's a reason Ms. Malkin isn't telling her supporters to go out there and debate the issues with Americans who disagree with them. It's the same reason Karl Rove has spent the last six years gaming our government for partisan gain in Washington.

A coalition of Democrats and independents are carrying the national debate and winning elections.

The right resorts to demagoguery and cheerleading because they can't debate the issues. On that front, they've already lost.

It's pretty simple, really.

Posted by: kid oakland
Date: April 26, 2007 11:09 AM

Just watched the video. Looks like she's off her medication again. What a sad, public display of clinically significant thought disorder.

As observed above, no comment is necessary. Res ipsa loquitur: the thing speaks for itself.

(And I do mean "thing.")

Posted by: Miss Butter
Date: April 26, 2007 11:11 AM

I caught a glimpse of Malkin's Gwyneth Paltrow video a few days ago and actually haven't smiled since.

Posted by: forked tongue
Date: April 26, 2007 11:14 AM

In the comments on the Broder article, someone archly mentions the blogswarm, as though the comment on this site caused all the strong reaction againt Broder.

As someone who regularly rubbernecks (I'll admit it) at the Post's Editorial Page trainwreck, I can say that every Broder article elicits about the same level of negative comments. Ditto Novak. Broder and Novak don't need a Blogswarm. They each have their own hive.

Posted by: sophie brown
Date: April 26, 2007 11:16 AM

I think Malkin's little episode there illustrates just how oblivious much of the right-wing punditry is to what other people in the country think, not to mention the juvenile and overly malicious appearance of it.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty
Date: April 26, 2007 11:18 AM

Michelle honey, the Toni Basil look is SO 1982.

Posted by: pdx2wheels
Date: April 26, 2007 11:18 AM

Can we not talk about her any more?

Posted by: dixiekc
Date: April 26, 2007 11:22 AM

Greg - Don't get in an argument with a fool, people will not be able to distinguish you from them.

You can even begin to reason with here.

Brainlessness beside, is Maulkin hot in that skirt or is just me?

PS Blustering coincidences! My security code was TAIL.

Posted by: ShawnHarmon
Date: April 26, 2007 11:25 AM

First of all, I just wanted to say "Thank You" to Talking Points Memo, for placing me among the ranks of the "Wingnuts". I have to tell you, it's an honor to be considered an idiot by the party who brings you John Kerry.

Second, I do hope you'll actually look at what I said. I said that "Michelle Malkin, found the story", which is my way of giving a hat tip to another blogger. I usually refer to posts, or other happenings in the blogosphere as "stories". It certainly isn't "breaking".

Finally, In my defense, it's kind of hard to consider phrases like "Blogswarm alert", as "ironic", when a prominent member of your side of the blogosphere was being "literal" when he said he had a "vicious rant" and "Important Action Alert" lined up, for Edwards.

BTW, Thanks for the traffic, it really helped my ad earnings.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 11:25 AM

"BTW, Thanks for the traffic, it really helped my ad earnings.

Posted by: AmerPundit"

translation: I'm gonna buy an extra big bag of cheetos

Posted by: hadenough
Date: April 26, 2007 11:36 AM

hadenough, a brilliant rebuttal!

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 11:37 AM

One problem with these stories it it gives MM a lot of web traffic. It's a bit of a boost to look at one's server numbers and see a lot of web hits. (It gives her more advertiser revenue, for example.) It would be best to provide a few more good excerpts instead of driving traffic to the MM site...

Posted by: Thinkerton
Date: April 26, 2007 11:40 AM

AmerPundit said:

I said that "Michelle Malkin, found the story", which is my way of giving a hat tip to another blogger. I usually refer to posts, or other happenings in the blogosphere as "stories".

A hat tip for finding the story? What story? There's a story here? Oh man ... you guys are great! I'm pretty damn sure that everyone who posts/reads the Horse's Mouth regularly read it ironically. I know ... conservatives don't get irony very well, but they certainly do it very well.

Posted by: DanF
Date: April 26, 2007 11:42 AM

Well, at least we can all agree that Malkin's divorce from reality now has substantive, documented evidence proving it.

Posted by: mat
Date: April 26, 2007 11:44 AM

I like the cinema verite of her looking like a frustrated teenage cheeleader wannabe in Daddy's home movies. Oh wait, maybe I'm reading too much into that.

Maybe she's just not aware how silly this looks. I know I'll never be able to read what she writes in the future without seeing her pretending to be a cheerleader. I suppose it will help her street cred with the trolls.

Posted by: JB
Date: April 26, 2007 11:45 AM

I just told you that I usually refer to posts, as stories. In other words, it is a post. As I stated in my first post, it's kind of difficult to consider it as being "ironic", when "a prominent member of your side of the blogosphere was being "literal" when he said he had a "vicious rant" and "Important Action Alert" lined up, for Edwards."

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 11:47 AM

Seeing that nothing actually intelligent will come from here, I bid you adieu. Once, again, thanks for the traffic. I'm sure Michelle thanks you, as well.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 11:49 AM

That video was one of the funniest things I've ever seen! Thanks for the much-needed humor.

Posted by: harriett
Date: April 26, 2007 11:49 AM

Well, I guess we won't have to spend time mocking her because she did it for us. That "cheer" has to be worth at least two months of mockery. So, Democratic Nation, what are we going to do with all of our free time? MM, what a waste of a birth certificate.

Posted by: TruthSeeker
Date: April 26, 2007 11:56 AM

Michelle Malkin ... stinko

Broder .... composting publically

Posted by: Jeff and Joe
Date: April 26, 2007 11:58 AM

I don't know what is wrong with you people. I applaud MM for underscoring her professionalism by posting that outtake from Cheerleaders Gone Wild.

In another year she'll be doing rape porn, and I say, more power to her.

(Security code word: "taste", as in poor.)

Posted by: Disputo
Date: April 26, 2007 12:02 PM


I think Malkin was hoping to audition for "the view".

Posted by: the real cookie
Date: April 26, 2007 12:02 PM

I still say Malkin's trying to hold Bush's remaining base with that vid. I just never realized 28% of the voting public were pedophiles before.

Posted by: Kevin Hayden
Date: April 26, 2007 12:09 PM

Greg -- did you catch Bill Moyers' special on PBS last night? One of the lowlights was Peter Beinart performing one of your classic pundit maneuvers:

------------
BILL MOYERS: If we journalists get it wrong on the facts what is there to be right about?

PETER BEINART: Well I think that's a good point, but the argument in the fall of 2002 was not mostly about the facts it was about a whole series of ideas about what would happen if we invaded.
------------

Note how Beinart states that "the argument in the fall of 2002 was not mostly about the facts," as if that was just a fact of life, and not something that people like him had any effect on.

Posted by: Redshift
Date: April 26, 2007 12:10 PM

Sorry, but just couldn't resist. Kevin, the same polls that find Bush with a 35% approval rating, find the Democratic Congress, with a 36% approval rating.
Bush:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/archive/?poll_id=19
Congress:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/archive/?poll_id=18


Actually, the RCP average approval rating for Congress, is only .04% higher than Bush.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 12:18 PM

malkin just learned last week that jesus general was a parody and took him off her blogroll.

Posted by: ron
Date: April 26, 2007 12:21 PM

Do we finally knopw who "Specialist" is?

A party who brings Kerry?...

How about a party that has Michelle "Rah-Rah" Malkin cheering for it?? LOL!

Anyway, sit back and let the Dems slowly put this flailing nation back on track.

AmerPundit hehe.

Posted by: philNYC
Date: April 26, 2007 12:26 PM

AmerPundit,

I posted a little quip in your comments section. Something along the lines of:

"further evidence that right-wingers and humor are like two ships in the night"

I short while later I see that I'm unable to access your website - something about my IP address being banned.

Did you ban me from accessing your site? If so, what kind of blogger runs and hides from words and ideas? (besides the cowardly kind, of course).

Cheers!
VividU

Posted by: Vividu
Date: April 26, 2007 12:33 PM

Anybody remember Ann Coulter? She's the one who went to far and wasn't heard from again. Michelle's cheerleader bit might have the same effect.

Posted by: John
Date: April 26, 2007 12:36 PM

"sit back and let the Dems slowly put this flailing nation back on track."

You mean, little national security and high taxes? Think about this. In the last 40 years, Democrats have only controlled the White House for 12. Generations of voters, haven't trusted Democrats to be Presidents. They can't all be wrong.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 12:36 PM

"I short while later I see that I'm unable to access your website - something about my IP address being banned."

No, I didn't ban your IP, I don't do that. My blog had a glitch with one of the plugins, that messed up the directions. It should work, now.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 12:40 PM

"This was not a literal call for a blogswarm..".

Thanks for the heads up. You caught me at the last minute. Boy, I'd of looked like a jackass if I swarmed by myself.

Posted by: Dduck
Date: April 26, 2007 12:46 PM

I noticed malkin was congratulating Pajamas Media (our symbol: a bathrobe) for turning one year old.

That explains their incredibly childish behavior.

Posted by: SickOfAllOfThem
Date: April 26, 2007 12:46 PM

Ameripundit is hysterical. First he points out that the right-leaning polls at realclearpolitics (check their track record on predicting outcome in '06) actually show Bush with a LOWER rating than congress (amazing, really). Thanks for pointing it out though Ameripundite!

Then he points out that we're the party of John Kerry, as though this is supposed to be some kind of insult considering his man is George Bush! I think I'll refer to Ameripundit as Ameripundit/Bush, since that's his guy, and that's who HE WANTS to have hung around his neck. Way to go Ameriapundit/Bush! Yay for you! Let's all cheer along together (with that indelible image of MM leading the way, of course)! Yay for Ameripundit/Bush! Bush is great! Whoopee! We LOVE GEORGE BUSH! He's a really great president.

You know what's funny? A guy in my office -- he's a really smart, nice guy -- who is a dyed-in-the-wool Bush loving Republican, started discussing Obama with me, and his concern about Obama's competence because of his lack of experience. I told him he's not allowed to even discuss presidential competence after voting twice for Bush, whose presidency was an unmitigated disaster of mind-numbing incompetence. He pretty much conceded the point. This guy has a signed picture of George and Laura on his wall.

What say you Ameripundit/Bush? Can you defend YOUR guy?

Posted by: John
Date: April 26, 2007 12:58 PM

Malkin hardly deserves the attention. Like Coulter, she's a trailer-trash bimbo who unfortunately knows how to type.

Posted by: Mark F.
Date: April 26, 2007 1:00 PM

Oh my God is right. I just watched that video of Malkin doing her cheerleader thing. What the fuk?!? Is this woman brain-damaged?

Posted by: Mark F.
Date: April 26, 2007 1:03 PM

Actually, Ameripundit, it was 14 out of the last 40, and 20 out of the last 45, so a little less than half really. And of course, out of the GOP's 25 years of presidency in the last 45 years, 6 of them were Nixon, and 6 more Bush. So really you only had 13 years of presidency in the last 45 about you which you aren't ashamed. We're still proud of all of our's. Still waiting for you to tell us how great Bush is though, and why.

Posted by: John
Date: April 26, 2007 1:06 PM

No, I won't, because neither did you. You did nothing more than what my original comment did - called the other party's candidate an idiot. Then you ask if I can defend my guy, after you've failed to defend yours.

Ok, don't look at RCP. How about CBS who gave them a 34% approval. USA Today and Gallup give Congress a 33% approval. AP-Ipsos also has them at 33%. LA Times/Bloomberg lists them at 34%. How about those?

Only 4 months in control of Congress, and already approvals in the 30s.

The inability of your office worker to debate, doesn't affect me. He has every damn right in the world to discuss Presidential competence. Let's remember something, shall we? The electoral college picks Presidents, the people only nominate candidates.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 1:10 PM

Mark, I don't like either one of them, but the whole "trailer trash bimbo" thing is a bullshit thing to say. I thought sexist attacks on the poor was something the other side did.

As for AmerPundit: "Think about this. In the last 40 years, Democrats have only controlled the White House for 12."

Yet, for some reason, to folks like AmerPundit, it's liberals who are the cause of all the world's problems. It amazes me that the folks screeching the loudest about being discriminated and attacked are the ones in power. Sort of what you'd expect from a child, but not an adult, eh?

Posted by: Sickle
Date: April 26, 2007 1:13 PM

has anyone considered the possibility that Congress' approval ratings are lower than they might otherwise be because of the REpublicans in Congress, and not the Dems?

the polls I've seen show that the approval rating of Cong Dems is a good deal higher than that of Congress as a whole, while the approval of Cong GOPers is a good deal lower.

Shouldn't that tell us something?

Posted by:
Date: April 26, 2007 1:13 PM

Ok, John, you're right! In 2009, at the end of President Bush's term, Dems will only have controlled Congress for 12 of the last 40 years. Nixon was sworn in in 1969, the next President in 2009. In that time, Jimmy Carter served 4 years, Clinton 8 years. That's 12 out of the last 40 years, at the end of Bush's term.

Who are you proud of? Clinton who had an affair with an intern in the White House, and had not one, but numerous terror attacks, during his Presidency? Or Carter who drove the economy to such a bad place, that the people would've elected Elmo over him?

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 1:19 PM

Can we send Milky Malkin back to the bang-bang bar she came from outside the Naval base in Manila?

Posted by: Gary
Date: April 26, 2007 1:19 PM

"has anyone considered the possibility that Congress' approval ratings are lower than they might otherwise be because of the REpublicans in Congress, and not the Dems?"

No. The Democrats are in controll of Congress. Period. They were able to get legislation with a timetable through, despite Republican objection. You're in control, you take the responsibility. Reid's approval rating is around 47%, in his state, meaning that more than half don't approve.

When Democrats got control of Congress, Congressional approvals averaged in the 40s. Now, they average in the 30s. They've gone down.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 1:25 PM

Ameripundit keeps saying goodbye and coming back: what's that all about? And he seems, to have problems using, the comma. Used to be the rule that you used it to mark a breath when reading: perhaps he uses it to mark when he stops to think of what comes next?

Posted by: paul
Date: April 26, 2007 1:25 PM

Trex over at Firedoglake had a funny take on this 40 YO cheerleader Michelle Munchkin last night. I never knew she even existed before reading Firedoglake.

I didn't realize she was brown, and frowned upon by her own kind and taking up the mantra for the very people who want to take what little opportunity she has had through grovernment programs to spew her demagaugery. give me an L- give me an O give me an S
give me an E give me an R

Posted by: Alana
Date: April 26, 2007 1:26 PM

"Let's remember something, shall we? The electoral college picks Presidents, the people only nominate candidates."

Except as your dear leader Karl Rove well knows, the electoral college doesn't function as intended when y'all rig elections by "losing" Democratic voter registrations, prosecuting Democratic voters without cause, firing federal prosecutors because they won't play ball, and otherwise suppressing the minority vote. Winning fair and square isn't exactly your strong suit, so please don't flip us your shit about the electoral college.

Posted by:
Date: April 26, 2007 1:28 PM

"Clinton had numerous terrorist attacks"?

One in 1993, maybe a few weeks after he took over. and everyone knows terror attacks globally have gone up under Bush.

this is either self-delusion or dishonesty. please stop the lying.

Posted by:
Date: April 26, 2007 1:37 PM

Clinton who had an affair with an intern in the White House, and had not one, but numerous terror attacks, during his Presidency?

Clenis! Clenis! Give it a break already. Last I checked, his affair didn't cost this country nearly 1 Trillion and 10's of thousands of lives destroyed.

As for the attacks, lets take a look at Clinton's actions concerning those. Treated as they should be, criminal acts, those responsible for the WTC bombing were convicted and as for the Cole... well we all know that Clinton was in the process of pursing those responsible and left with specific details on the perpetrators and expected something to be done about it.

Now, lets check in on your BFF Bush. OBL? Anyone? Anyone? Save the Hussein argument, he wasn't a threat..as much as you wanted him to be, he wasn't.

Posted by: Simp
Date: April 26, 2007 1:38 PM

Paul, Thank You for correcting my grammar. I said I was leaving once, but I came back, because there were responses to my post.

Oh, here come the Rovian conspiracies! You result to your theories of what he does. If he was the political, shadowy, corrupt genius you think he is, why did we lose in '06? That probably would've been easier to rig. All you'd have to do is affect a few parts of the country, not the whole thing.

Again, Bush: fired 9 US attorneys. Clinton: fired 93 US Attorneys.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 1:38 PM

Yes Ameripundit, I am proud of Clinton and Carter, and in fact, for that matter -- to point out my contrast, I'm even sort of proud of Reagan and Bush I. Each of those four had their strong points and their failings, and each are quite distinguishable from the abominations of presidency known as Nixon and Bush II. Get it? Also - don't be so sure Bush will be president for two more years to come up with your 12/40 fiction. And if you want to guess about the future, I'd say that by 2017, we'll have had 16 years of Clinton versus 8 of Bush!

Also, now that you're trapped into bleating about the accuracy of polls, let's assume they are accurate. What say you about the TOWERING lead Pelosi has over Bush? Huh?

And you want me to defend Kerry? Sure. He can defend himself, actually. Here's his plan for Iraq in 2004: http://www.alternet.org/election04/19947/

Can you tell me why Bush's plan since that time has worked better? Which of Kerry's predictions turned out not to be true?

Kerry is intelligent and bravely fought for his country in combat when he easily could have arranged to avoid combat service. How about Bush? How about you?

We're STILL waiting for you to defend Bush (just like my buddy in the office -and he's a pretty good debater, too, by the way, given that he's an pretty accomplished appellate lawyer)

Still waiting! Defend your guy!

Posted by: John
Date: April 26, 2007 1:41 PM

You're in control, you take the responsibility

I hear Bush has this as a plaque on his desk. And it has an arrow. Pointing _away_.

Posted by: FlipYrWhig
Date: April 26, 2007 1:42 PM

The buzzsaw the Rs ran into this last election cycle has messed up their plan to take over the whole nation and become the permanent majority. They really expected to maintain their majority despite scandal. Hello?

They got too comfy thinking the people weren't going to notice their thieving ways and there are still honest people in the DOJ like Pat Fitzgerald and Carol Lam and of course Josh at TPM that blew the whistle on them.

Such a shame that they have 3 or 4 defender bomb throwers. Oh well, it makes for laughs and fun though.

Posted by: Alana
Date: April 26, 2007 1:43 PM

"Who are you proud of? Clinton who had an affair with an intern in the White House, and had not one, but numerous terror attacks, during his Presidency? Or Carter who drove the economy to such a bad place, that the people would've elected Elmo over him?"

Wow, really? Are you really asking this? Are you sure you want to defend the Smirking Chimp's anti-terrorism record? Who, exactly, ignored THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION's warnings that planes would be used to attack U.S. targets? Your nerve is admirable, I guess.

And yeah, I'm exceptionally proud of Carter, a Nobel laureate, and Clinton, a highly acclaimed and admired two-term president DESPITE your gang's desperate and cynical smear campaign. I don't give a rat's ass about his Oval Office blowjob. I do, however, care about the blood of 3000+ American men and women on the Chickenhawk Chimp's hands.

Posted by:
Date: April 26, 2007 1:43 PM

By the way, Ameripundit -- I like your willingness to debate us here. I think you're completely wrong, but the dialogue is always good. I hope you haven't found me too disrespectful. A little zealous maybe, but hopefully not disrespectful :)

Posted by: John
Date: April 26, 2007 1:43 PM

Bush: fired 9 US attorneys. Clinton: fired 93 US Attorneys

How many of Clinton's US Attorneys did Bush fire in 2000?

Posted by: FlipYrWhig
Date: April 26, 2007 1:44 PM

And let's all take time out to thank Karl Rove for the emerging, permanent Democratic majority!

Posted by: John
Date: April 26, 2007 1:45 PM

"BTW, Thanks for the traffic, it really helped my ad earnings"

You're welcome! Our lil gift to you. And thank YOU for doing the same for Josh! Guess it's kind of a wash though, huh. Oh, well.

Security code: "waste." As in AmeriPundit and its ilk are a waste of air and food.

Posted by: Miss Butter
Date: April 26, 2007 1:46 PM

If "Blogstorm Alert" means "start a blogstorm" does "terrorism alert" mean "start some terrorism"?

Have I been misunderstanding alerts all my life?

Posted by: Nylund
Date: April 26, 2007 1:47 PM

The WTC 1993 Attack
The Oklahoma City Bombing
The Olympic Centennial Olympic Park bombing
The US Embassy Bombing in Tanzania
Plus, the smaller terror attacks by shooters killing citizens.

Oh, and the person that financed, making possible, the WTC 1993 bombing? Khaled Shaikh Mohammed, who was arrested under the Bush Administration, so obviously Clinton didn't punish all those involved.

How about the times that Clinton had bin Laden in US cross-hairs (literally) and didn't kill him?


Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 1:47 PM

To fellow travelers here at TPM go over to www.Wonkette.com and scroll down to yesterday--you can watch the pathetically desperate machinations of MM doing here cheer. She looks like the outfit came from a children's clothing store. It is so lame and stupid--yet it is classic, clueless, koolaid drinking MM.

It is hysterical--but I would be mortified if I had ever done anything like that--MM is an ass. When I was over at Wonkette, there were 70 comments.

Check it out--you can't make this stuff up!

Posted by: sconset
Date: April 26, 2007 1:48 PM

it's going to be hard for anybody to take her seriously ever again

What you mean "again" kemosabe?

Posted by: Realist
Date: April 26, 2007 1:53 PM

So, this "Michelle Malkin" person... I take it she's some sort of character on these "Interwebs" I keep hearing the kids talking about? So, is that like, a person on a sit-com, or what?

(Oh, never mind. I skim Malkin's headlines every day, just to see what Wingnutistanians consider "important news," and it never disappoints. Not ONE SINGLE MENTION of: that little US attorney "thing," the Tillman/Lynch/Ringling Bros./Barnum & Bailey travelling show or the constitutional battle on Congressional oversight - the list goes on. On the other hand, how would I know about Rosie O'Donnell conspiracy theories, Harry "Losercrat" Reid's quips or the "stuttering imams" (or whatever those are) if I didn't subject myself to a daily dose of Malkin, I ask you?!)

Posted by: OneMonkeysUncle
Date: April 26, 2007 1:54 PM

The Oklahoma City Bombing
The Olympic Centennial Olympic Park bombing

So Clinton is responsible for what right-wing whackjobs did while he was President?

Posted by: Realist
Date: April 26, 2007 1:54 PM

Nylund, depends on the context. If bin Laden sent out a "terrorism alert" I wouldn't assume he was warning the US, in order to keep Americans safe. Why? Because that's not what he meant in the past.

When the left blogosphere has used similar "alerts" in the past, and meant them literally, I expect it to continue to mean that.

FlipYrWhig, interesting how you completely ignored what I said about how Clinton did the same thing, but on a larger scale, and went back to Bush.


"Who, exactly, ignored THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION's warnings that planes would be used to attack U.S. targets? "

How about the fact that Clinton could have killed the man who planned the attacks he was warning about, but didn't? BTW, what exactly did Carter do for this country, as President? He did more good building houses, afterwards.


You all mistake me. I'm not here to defend Bush. I disagree with a bunch of his policies, as well. I'm not here to tell you "He's the best President ever!". This started out as a discussion about a "blogswarm", and calling me a wingnut.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 1:55 PM

This is almost as funny as the bozos who tried to blame Clinton for Ruby Ridge.

Posted by: Realist
Date: April 26, 2007 1:56 PM

"So Clinton is responsible for what right-wing whackjobs did while he was President?"

Umm, yes. As President, it is your duty to keep America safe. If there are terror attacks on your soil, you need to realize that something needs to change. Clinton wasn't in office 8 months when those attacks occurred. He had been there for years.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 1:59 PM

The WTC 1993 Attack
The Oklahoma City Bombing
The Olympic Centennial Olympic Park bombing
The US Embassy Bombing in Tanzania
Plus, the smaller terror attacks by shooters killing citizens.

You're presumably aware that three of the five items on your list (I'm rolling up several e.g. abortion-provider shootings as one list item) were the work not of Scary Brown People From Elsewhere, but of right-wing US citizens.

Is your claim then that not enough was done under the Clinton Administration to suppress domestic right-wing extremism?

Posted by: AG
Date: April 26, 2007 2:02 PM

Oooh, jinx.

Posted by: AG
Date: April 26, 2007 2:03 PM

"Who, exactly, ignored THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION's warnings that planes would be used to attack U.S. targets? "

How about the fact that Clinton . . . [snip Clinton deflecto-tactic].

Answer the question, AmerPundit.

Posted by:
Date: April 26, 2007 2:04 PM

Is AmeriPundit the comic who says "git-r-done"?

Posted by: Kevin K.
Date: April 26, 2007 2:06 PM

Ameripundit: "I'm not here to defend Bush" -- now you sound just like my buddy in the office. I'm disappointed. Here's how you do it: Clinton -- crime way down, economy better than ever, standing in the world unparalleled, completely successful prosecution of a war against a genocidal maniac (with substantial coalition helping, and without a single soldier death), welfare reform that conservatives were thrilled about (because he knew how to compromise and work with the other party controlling Congress), off the top of my head, anyway.

Now, how about telling us why Bush is so great?

Posted by: John
Date: April 26, 2007 2:08 PM

"were the work not of Scary Brown People From Elsewhere, but of right-wing US citizens."

I don't give a rat's ass if Barney carried out the attacks. It's not a matter of suppressing a whole group of people. It's a matter of stopping terrorist attacks from occurring. The deadliest attacks were carried out by foreigners.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 2:09 PM

It is amazing the alternate reality one must decipher when dealing with anyone who still supports Bush.

Posted by: JM
Date: April 26, 2007 2:10 PM

"FlipYrWhig, interesting how you completely ignored what I said about how Clinton did the same thing, but on a larger scale, and went back to Bush."

Your nerve is really amazing -- you're using the tired "butClintondidit" flip to avoid addressing inconvenient truths and then calling US on YOUR non-answer? Newsflash: we're onto it. "butClintondidit" doesn't work around here.

Now address the original point.

Security Code: "screw." I'll refrain.

Posted by: Miss Butter
Date: April 26, 2007 2:12 PM

The deadliest attacks were carried out by foreigners.

Khobar Towers: 19 U.S. servicemen and one Saudi were killed.
USS Cole: 17 sailors were killed.
WTC '93: I believe six people were killed.

Oklahoma City - the work of a white US Army veteran and native-born citizen - claimed 168 lives.

Nice try.

Posted by: AG
Date: April 26, 2007 2:14 PM

""Who, exactly, ignored THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION's warnings that planes would be used to attack U.S. targets? "

How about the fact that Clinton . . . [snip Clinton deflecto-tactic].

Answer the question, AmerPundit."

You mean like others have ignored my questions, and went right back to Bush? If I hand you a paper that says "Planes will be used for terror attacks in this country", would you care to tell me exactly in which of the 50 states? Will it be commercial or residential planes? Which city? Who are we looking for?

John, two completely different conversations. You started out with your buddy, talking about Obama and Presidential competence. This conversation started out with a blog post about a columnist, and a "blogswarm".

Now, you'll all have to excuse me. I've been doing this for hours, and I have work that needs to get done, elsewhere. I do admire the fact that you guys didn't just blow me off, however. Thanks. (no sarcasm intended).

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 2:17 PM

I help out with the site that covered the SAW anti-war activities and you wouldn't believe the number of complete wingnuts Malkin sent to our site. We had people threatening to break out their armaments and countless other violent and vile comments for days -- both against SAW and us. It's surprising to me that these people can even function in society, the way they are so malleable and ready to carry out WWIII on their fellow citizens on the mere whim of their warrior commanders like Malkin.

Posted by: twirling fartknocker
Date: April 26, 2007 2:22 PM

Final note: The August 7, 2008 US embassy bombings in Tanzania (carried out by al Qaeda) killed 225 people.

Posted by: AmerPundit
Date: April 26, 2007 2:23 PM

I really don't understand something, AmeriPundit.

Under which President -- Clinton or George W. -- have there been more terror attacks globally per year?

Clinton or George W.?

Which is it?

Posted by:
Date: April 26, 2007 2:29 PM

We love Michelle because she's such a cute chick. We want to sit on her and feed her worms.

Posted by: VJB
Date: April 26, 2007 2:59 PM

From the "Operation Ignore" chapter of Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars That Tell Them:

"Bill Clinton's far-reaching plan to eliminate al Qaeda root and branch was completed only a few weeks before the inauguration of George W. Bush. If it had been implemented then, a former senior Clinton aide told Time, 'we would be handing [the Bush Administration] a war when they took office.' Instead, Clinton and company decided to turn over the plan to the Bush administration to carry out. Clinton trusted Bush to protect America. This proved, nine months later, to be a disastrous mistake - perhaps the biggest one Clinton ever made.

"Clinton's National Security Advisor Sandy Berger remembered how little help the previous Bush administration had provided to his team. Believing that the nation's security should transcend political bitterness, Berger arranged ten briefings for his successor, Condoleezza Rice, and her deputy, Stephen Hadley. Berger made a special point of attending the briefing on terrorism. He told Dr. Rice, 'I believe that the Bush administration will spend more time on terrorism in general, and on al Qaeda specifically, than any other subject.'

"Which brings me to a lie. When Time asked about the conversation, Rice declined to comment, but through a spokeswoman said she recalled no briefing at which Berger was present. Perhaps so, Dr. Rice. But might I direct our mutual friends, my readers, to a certain December 30, 2001, New York Times article? Perhaps you know the one, Condi? Shall I quote it? 'As he prepared to leave office last January, Mr. Berger met with his successor, Condoleezza Rice, and gave her a warning. According to both of them, he said that terrorism-and particularly Mr. bin Laden's brand of it-would consume far more of her time than she had ever imagined.' (Italics mine.)"

Of course, this is why Sandy Berger had to be destroyed by the ever-vindictive Bush Junta in a persecution that even Bush's ideological soul mates on the Wall Street Journal's editorial board condemned. (By the way: Berger was eventually cleared of the bogus "destroying/stealing original documents" charges, though this wasn't broadcast the way the original smears were and still are to this day.)

And when the CIA actually dared interrupt Little Lord Fauntleroy Bush's sacred month-long vacation in August of 2001 by sending its agents to warn him in person of the dangers stated in the August 6, 2001 PDB that he and Condi blew off, his curt dismissal to them was: "All right. You've covered your ass, now."

Posted by: Phoenix Woman
Date: April 26, 2007 3:07 PM

I agree with AmerPundit that if Clinton had done the right thing and declared war on wingnuts after the OKC bombing, that we would not be in the mess we are today.

(the password is... "muscle", as in "flex America's")

Posted by: Disputo
Date: April 26, 2007 3:08 PM

Amerpundit: "Sorry, but just couldn't resist. Kevin, the same polls that find Bush with a 35% approval rating, find the Democratic Congress, with a 36% approval rating."

That's a misstatement of the polling results, Amerpundit. Congressional approval is at about 35-40%, but that's for the full congress, without specifying Democratic or Republican in the question.

When the question is rephrased to include party affiliation, as you misleadingly did in your statement, the results are quite different. Democratic Congressional approval generally polls now in the mid-40's to low 50's, whereas approval ratings for the Republican Congressional body are trending in the high teens to mid-20's.

Misleading doofus.

On a final note regarding the lower approval ratings for Congress as a whole, obviously a Congress in which Republican members keep having their homes raided by the FBI (Doolittle and Renzi), and resigning in disgrace due to corruption scandals (Delay and Ney) will not receive the highest of approval ratings.

Posted by: JGabriel
Date: April 26, 2007 5:32 PM

Well, you know, now that there's no more US Navy base at Subic Bay, all the Olongapo boom-boom girls had to find other employment. Poor Michelle, she's just a workin' girl whose talents dont run to using brains.

Can we send Milky Malkin back to the bang-bang bar she came from outside the Naval base in Manila?

Look, I think Malkin is ridiculous too, but this racist and sexist horseshit doesn't belong here. Thanks.

Posted by: cdc
Date: April 26, 2007 5:48 PM

Hey mods, why did you delete my wholly inoffensive post about AmerPundit's time machine?

Posted by: Disputo
Date: April 26, 2007 7:16 PM

at least she should've done it naked to be worth something.

Posted by: chompiz
Date: April 26, 2007 7:32 PM

Speaking of new lows, what's this say about Broder that his advocate, benefactor and common cause is Michelle Malkin?

Broder is now becoming "Dean" of the vapid wingnutery pundocracy.

Some one should put Broder on a suicide watch list. Because if he has any pride at all he might be considering slitting his own wrists right now.

Next up, co-appearance of Malkin and Broder on Fox or MTP.

Posted by: Tim
Date: April 26, 2007 7:59 PM

One of the reasons why I like TalkingPointsMemo.com so much is that it is a hard news, critical, honest political blog that doesn't stoop to the mindless and unproductive vile that pervades so many blogs like Ameripundit's and Malkin's.
Not that there isn't value in exposing hate-mongers and hypocrites, but here you're not being Edward R. Murrow to their Eugene McCarthy because they don't have the power or influence that McCarthy had. So, Greg, do us all a favor and help keep TPM's integrity by not engaging irrational lunatics. Now let's get back to something substantive, something that actually does matter....

Posted by: Troof
Date: April 26, 2007 10:33 PM

Off topic, but in the aftermath of the Democratic Debate, I enjoyed this contrast in headlines:

CBS - Iraq Dominates Dems' Presidential Debate
MSNBC - Focus on Iraq
ABC - Dems Fault Bush Over Iraq in 1st Debate
CNN - Dem debaters bash Bush
Fox - Dem Hopefuls Spar Over Who's More Anti-War

Posted by: shingles
Date: April 27, 2007 12:58 AM

The only differences between Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter are that hatemonger Coulter at least is literate; and she's blonde.

Posted by: dale Headley
Date: April 27, 2007 3:33 AM

amerpundit, why are you afraid to allow comments?
Not that I'm going to actually click on your link, but none of you chickenhawk cowards allow comment. Why, what else are you scared of?

Posted by: merlallen
Date: April 27, 2007 4:11 AM

amerpundit dumbass says goodbye, and then responds about 5 more times. dumbass.
smell. as in the stench of desperation

Posted by: merlallen
Date: April 27, 2007 4:16 AM

Greg, you said:

"Update II: Some readers ask why we bother engaging the likes of Malkin. Good question. Answer: Purely for the entertainment value. Nothing more."

I'm dissappointed. Malkin and the wingnuts have real-world impact. The scripts they push make their way into many citizens' thought processes and decision-making. In a broader way, the mainstreaming of wingnut scripts is why we're in Iraq right now, as Bob at www.dailyhowler.com has chronicled relentlessly.

I don't think you mean it; I think there IS more, that there are substantial reasons why Malkin & co. must be engaged time and again, and I think you probably agree.

Why would you say it's "entertainment" - it matters!

-howie

Posted by: howie
Date: April 27, 2007 12:57 PM

It is all hot air and going no where. We have to stop this division type dialog and get real with what is happening in our government. People have settled in this government that really don't give a hoot about you or me and the working and non-working Americans. Please, lets take some real actions and get this government on track again. Right now, America has always been the beautiful but this government falling short of it's people in a very bad way.

Posted by: Jan972
Date: April 27, 2007 8:02 PM

I have been a Democratic Candidate for Office 4 times. Twice for the Legislature, once for Mayor and once for Alderman. I knew Jack Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey spoke at a breakfast for me. I have a letter from Lady Bird Johnson wishing me well in my campaign for the legislature. Saying all that, I would like to say that leaving Iraq would only cause Osama bid Laden's comment to validated. He believes we are a pampered society and that we can not take it. Hit them and hit them and they will run. Where did he get that idea? He got that idea from the 8 years of Bill Clinton. He said all they do is shoot rockets into the desert and say some angry words. Our country proved it time and time again during the 1990's. To read more go to Hillsdale College Web Site and read a recent IMPRIMIS by Dr. Lewis a Prinston Professor of Middle East Studies. It will surprise you on what they think of the U.S. He also indicates that George Bush surprised him when we sent our troops after him and into Iraq. It was not until the Press got the citizens upset with the war that Osama realized that by hitting us hard in Iraq that they could win. Osama believes Muslims are entering the final stages of their struggle. North America (on their projected map) will be a Muslim state in the next 50 years (Parade Magazine had an article on this several issues back)

Where are we? We have cut our military by 500,000 soldiers in the Active, Reserve and National Guard during the 1990's. We reduced our ability to make ammunition in Army Ammunition plants by getting rid of 15 of them during the 1990's. We had to have 26 plants to fight the Vietnam War, Clinton's Secretary of the Army got rid of 15 of the 26 taking us down to 11 plants and BRAC 2005 got rid of three more. We now have only 8. We can not fight a convention major war with only 8 plants. We are buying 800,000,000 rounds of small caliber ammo from Israel because neither Army Ammo Plants nor private industry can make enough for the limited war we are fighting. I ask a soldier returning from South West Asia about ammuntion and he told me that he only got British and Polish ammunition when he was fighting.

God forbid that the war gets bigger. We may have to "Nuke" them. That was affirmed by a Bird Colonel who I talked to in a military pharmacy a couple of months ago.

Posted by: George Nickolas
Date: April 28, 2007 12:21 AM

This may be a long post, but if you have the guts to read it, you might see the war and the world from a Christian's point of view who lives in Israel:

The Coming War With Islam

FrontPageMagazine.com
By Solly Ganor
March 15, 2007
Five years ago, I had a conversation with a young Palestinian student who in short precise terms explained how Islam will defeat the West. The conversation opened my eyes to a much larger picture in which Israel plays only a minor role in the Islamic game of conquest. Since then I tried to speak to some Arabs who come to pray at the Mosque, but they were not as outspoken as the student.
Last week, I had another conversation with an Israeli Arab construction boss by the unlikely name of Francis who was in charge of building a villa near our house in Herzelia. He told me that his family was Christian, and his name was given to him in honor of the Franciscan monks. Our conversation was as interesting as the first conversation I had with the Arab student five years ago and I would like to share it with you. Francis frequently parked his car near our house and we would exchange polite greetings.
About a week ago, the water was shut off for repairs in the house he was building, and Francis asked me if I could give him some hot water for his coffee. He was a tall man of about forty, with reddish hair and blue eyes. He spoke a perfect Hebrew, and I naturally became curious about him. I felt that he may the right person to exchange some views with. By his looks, I assumed that he was either a Druze or from the Syrian region. He looked more like a teacher than a construction worker and, as I later found out, he was actually a teacher by profession. Since my conversation with the student five years ago, I was always curious to hear their side of the story; therefore, I decided to invite him for a cup of coffee to our house. I saw him hesitate for a moment; then he smiled and thanked me for my hospitality.
While we drank our coffee, he told me that he was from a small village in the Galilee called Jish, near the present Kibbutz Sassa. I remembered the village very well as I was one of the soldiers who captured the village while serving in the 7th Armored brigade during the War of Independence in 1948. I decided not to tell him about it because at the time we encountered some stiff resistance at that village and quite a few of the inhabitants were killed.
He went on to tell me a little about himself. “For a while I was a teacher and I loved teaching, but I couldn’t make a living at it and I decided to join my father in law who is in the construction business.” Judging by the large Honda he was driving, I figured that he didn’t do too badly changing his profession.
Our conversation soon turned to the present situation in the Middle East, about Hamas winning the elections, the situation of the Israeli Arabs, and the last Lebanese war against Hezbollah. “As Christians we are in a difficult situation here in Israel. Unfortunately, the Moslems and especially the extreme Islamist section, are giving the tone here. My family, who lived in Bethlehem probably since the Crusaders, had to flee for their life. The Moslems have been forcing us out, by threats and even murder. Bethlehem that was once predominantly Christian is now predominantly Moslem. Very little is written about it even in the Israeli press.”
He sipped his coffee and gave me a long look. He seemed like someone who wasn’t quite sure whether to say what he was about to say. I gave him an encouraging nod.
“I have to tell you something which very few of you seem to comprehend.” He continued, “Your bungling war against a few thousand Hezbollah fighters which you should have crushed no matter what, considering the importance of the outcome, has created a completely new situation, not only for this area, but globally. Your inept leadership totally misunderstood the importance of winning this war."

“As a matter of fact, the whole Moslem world, not only the Arabs, simply couldn’t believe that the mighty Israeli Army that defeated the combined Arab forces in six days in 1967, and almost captured Cairo and Damascus in 1973, couldn’t defeat a small army of Hezbollah men. As usual the Moslems see things the way they want to see things. Most think that the present generation of Israelis have gone soft and can be defeated."
“The American bungling of the war in Iraq only added to their conviction that victory not only over Israel but also over the West is not only possible, but certain. The ramifications of these two bungling wars may bring an Islamic bloody Tsunami all over the West, not only in Israel. The sharks smell blood and these two wars gave them the green light to attack sooner than they had in mind. Your problem is that you are on the defensive and they have the option to choose the time and the places when and where to attack and there is nothing much you can do about it. When will you Westerners realize that half measures don’t work with people who are willing to die by the thousands for Allah to achieve their goal? In their eyes the Western World is simply an abomination on earth that has to be wiped out.”

He spoke quietly and I could just picture him in the school giving his students a lecture. I poured him another cup of coffee and encouraged him to continue.
“The Americans, the Europeans, and even you Israelis really don’t know what it is all about, do you? During the last generation hundreds of thousands of children have been taught all over the Moslem world in Madrass schools to become martyrs for Allah in order to kill the infidels. These youngsters not only are ready to do it, but are actually in the process of doing it. Bombs are going off all over the world killing and maiming thousands of people, not only on 9/11 in the US, in London Madrid and Bali, but in Africa, India, Bengladesh, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and many other places. The first signs of the Islamic Tsunami is already here, but the West doesn’t understand, or doesn’t want to understand what is coming."
“The Americans, instead of realizing that this is as bad as World War Two, or even worse, are going to pull out of Iraq, handing it over to Iran on a silver platter. Next may come the Saudis and the rest of the Gulf states. When dirty bombs go off all over Western towns, who is going to stop the Iranians?"
“Now is the time to stop them, not only because they are developing nuclear bombs, but because Iran has become the base for all Islamic terrorist. They supply, money, men, and weapons to Islamic terrorist around the world, quite often through their diplomatic mail. Billions of petro-dollars that are pouring into Iran are being funneled into terrorist organizations world-wide. They believe, and perhaps rightly so, that the West will do nothing to stop them in achieving their goals. Is history repeating itself? Are the Iranians making the same mistake that Hitler made when he attacked Poland? Is the situation similar?"

“As a history teacher who studied the subject thoroughly I can tell you that Western victory in World War Two was not all certain. Hitler could have won the war if he would have gone ahead with the atomic bomb development before the Americans. The Germans began working on it in the thirties, and it was Hitler’s decision to prefer building more conventional arms, as he considered atomic weapons sheer fantasy.
Hitler made the wrong decision, but had he made the right decision the world would have been a different type of world today, wouldn’t it? The West won the war against Hitler by sheer chance. Very few people seem to realize that.”

I must say that his last words shook me up quite a bit. Had Hitler made a different decision, I would have died in Dachau, there wouldn’t have been a Jewish state called Israel, and most likely there wouldn’t have been any Jews left in the world. The idea that the Western democracies in general and the fate of the Jewish people in particular could have hinged on Hitler’s one decision, is a scenario of the worst nightmare.

He notices that his last words had an effect on me, and he smiled. “I see that my words are not wasted on you,” he said dryly. I nodded, and he continued with his lecture. “Coming back to our time, the Iranians rely on the West doing nothing about their development of nuclear bombs. They also rely on their secret weapon: an inexhaustible supply of Islamic suicide bombers, some of them who are already planted all over the Western World. Besides the Islamic countries that supply these suicide bombers, a second front has been opened, and that is the Internet with more than five thousand Islamic web sites, brain washing and urging young Moslems to become martyrs for Allah. They especially target young Moslems who live in Europe and the West in general. The Western intelligence authorities consider these web sites a bigger threat than the Iranian atomic bomb. Al-Qaeda recently issued a television broadcast that promised a devastating attack against its enemies this spring. As we all know, Al-Qaeda doesn’t make empty threats."

“Actually, I don’t understand why the Iranians bother to develop atomic bombs and bring the whole world down on them. Every suicide bomber is a potential atomic bomb, or a biological, chemical or dirty bomb that can be no less devastating than an atom bomb. The Americans and Europeans have no defense against this type of war."

“What can we do against this type warfare?” I asked him. “Well, you Israelis, should better prepare yourself for another round against Hezbollah. It will not be long in coming. It depends on the Iranians to give the word. This time you will have to destroy Hezbollah no matter what the cost may be."

“Of course, your next round against Hezbollah may involve the Syrians and the Iranians against you. The Iranians declared that they will not allow Hezbollah to be defeated no matter what and may launch their missiles against you. So will the Syrians. What will Israel do? It is unlikely that Israel will accept its destruction and may use their nuclear arsenal if the West will not come to their help. Perhaps our book of Revelation is not so wrong in describing that the end of the world would start at Armageddon, which we know as Har-Megiddo in Israel. The book of Revelations describe the last battle would be fought at Armageddon between the “Forces of good and the forces of evil.”

“And who would you call the forces of good ‘Israel or Islam?’ I asked looking him straight in the eyes. He gave me a startled look. “If I were a Moslem, I would have no problem to name the forces of good and it wouldn’t be Israel. As a Christian, I would probably name Israel, but as a Christian Arab I would prefer not to answer.”

We looked at each other. His answer made it clear where the Israeli Arabs stood, whether they were Moslems or Christians. And why should I be surprised? After all the Israeli Arabs call the establishment of the State of Israel their nakbah (disaster).

Is there a way to avoid the “Armageddon”?

“I think there are two ways to avoid it. One can be a major war which the West can win. As in World War Two, had the West attacked the Germans in 1936 the war would have lasted not more than a month with very few casualties. Their procrastination resulted in World War II with all its consequences. Eventually, the West will have to tackle the Iranians, it is better that they do it now to avert a world catastrophe later. With Iran defeated the Islamic onslaught will lose its base, and it may be the turning point in history to defeat the menace of extreme Islam. The majority of the Moslems don’t want this confrontation anyway.”

“You are painting a rather dark picture. When do you think we will have the next round against Hezbollah?” I asked. “I think they will attack again as soon as they are fully re-equipped and I think it will be during the summer, while Israel is still in a military and political turmoil.”

For a while, we sat in silence. He finished his second cup of coffee and got up. “I know what I am going to do. I am going to Canada to join my brother. This country is becoming much too dangerous for Christians as well,” he said. He thanked me for the coffee and we shook hands.
“You said there are two ways to avoid Armageddon?” I remembered to ask him.

“Sure, all the West has to do is follow Putin’s ways. He assassinates his enemies without blinking an eye. Assassinate the four or five Mullahs who run the show, Ahmadinejad, and a few more Iranian fanatics, and the War can be avoided. It may be difficult to do, but not impossible. With today’s hi-tech technology I am sure that new weapons against individuals are being prepared right now. I think it would be a better way of handling the matter than an all out war against Islam.”

The conversation with Francis was not more encouraging than the one I had with the Palestinian student five years ago. It was becoming clear that Israel may be on the forefront for the coming war of the West against Islam, unless we follow Francis’ suggestion to assassinate the heads of the snake, rather than going to war with Islam.

Posted by: George Nickolas
Date: April 28, 2007 12:34 AM

Here is an editorial I wrote in the Moline, Illinois Dispatch a while back:
CAN WE DEFEND UNITED STATES?
By
George T. Nickolas, USN (retired)


It has been said that if we do not learn from history will be doomed to repeat the tragedies of history. As we reflect upon the events of December 7, 1941 and September 11, 2001 are we doomed to have it happen again? Is the United States in danger of an unprovoked attack? Many indicated we are in danger of a nuclear incident within our borders.

We are called the world’s only “Superpower” and if you factor our nuclear capability into the equation we are! Can we defend the United States in a major conventional war? That is where the question becomes more binding. Many countries have larger standing armies. China, North Korea and even Russia have more men under arms. Except for Russia, they have no way to transport troops to our shores at this time. But, several countries can affect our national interests around the world. That does not even include al-Qaida’s reported possession of nuclear weapons in 1998 and where a threat may exist.

What can we learn about the need for conventional capabilities complement to our nuclear capabilities? What has history taught us in the last 65 years? During the Vietnam War we needed 26 ammunition plants to provide the conventional munitions to fight that war. During Korea we had 34 ammo plants that we could bring back on line, and it took 8 months to refurbish them. Two years after the Korean Conflict began on May 10, 1952, the Chief of Staff of the Army told Congress that we were rationing ammunition. He told Congress that World War II supplies had been almost depleted and production had not yet met consumption rates being experienced in Korean combat.

During the 1990’s President Clinton wanted to reap the “Peace Dividend” and the Secretary of the Army was more than willing during BRAC considerations to eliminate ammunition plants. They cut 15 plants out of the 26 plants in the Army facilities inventory during that period. One was the modern small caliber ammunition production facility Twin-Cities AAP in Minnesota run Federal Cartridge Company for the Army. The company indicated they would store the automated equipment in the event it was needed in the future at no cost to the government, but the Secretary of the Army did not want to do that. The automated equipment was excessed and apportioned to Israel and South Korea.

During the Iraq war the use of small arms ammunition has been so great that the remaining U.S. production in the private sector and at Lake City AAP has not been able to meet the need for small arms ammunition. That is why Israel was awarded a contract to provide hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition. Something that Congressman Neal Abercrombie of Hawaii was very upset about. Mr. Richard Palaschak, director of operations for the Munitions Industrial Base Task Force, told Congress: “while the Army’s decision to outsource ammunition production to a close ally was perhaps regrettable, it was necessary, as there is currently not enough capacity among American companies to meet the demand.”

Congress needs to hold hearing on the Defense Industrial Base, especially ammunition production capabilities, and what can be done to insure that we have the capability to defend the United States with conventional weapons and ammunition. The remaining manufacturing arsenals are also important to maintain, but ammunition production must not be reduced or eliminated ever again. If we need to expand the ammunition base it must be done in Government Owned-Contractor Operated facilities as it has been done since the beginning of World War II. We need to maintain this ammunition base in an active or laid away status when we are not in an active conflict. It takes years to build, equip, and provide staffs for these facilities. To reduce to only 8 ammunition plants to provide the ammunition to defend this country is sheer stupidity and lack of understanding on the part of the Defense Department and Congress. The United States needs to make the decision, if we do not rebuild our conventional ammunition base, and that is to let the world know that we will use nuclear weapons on our adversaries in the event we are attacked or threatened.

The next major point to be considered is why are we rotating units to Iraq three and in some cases four times? Once again we need to understand that we cut the Army, Army Reserves, and National Guard by 500,000 people during the 1990’s. It reduced the pool of people that could be called upon in the active army to 499,370 people. The United States is still in Kosovo and Bosnia nearly ten years after we entered those areas. We have 250,000 troops in 120 countries around the world. With that many people deployed around the world, we need more than 499,370 soldiers on active duty to protect the mainland of the United States.

Last, but not least, the Congress, Department of Defense and Service Secretaries need to understand the history of ammunition production from World War I to the present. I have a ten-paged short history that is available to them and anyone interested. It is based upon information that we used at HQ AMCCOM at Rock Island during briefings to the ammunition production community during the 1980’s and is up to date with recommendations to Congress.

Posted by: George Nickolas
Date: April 28, 2007 12:40 AM

From the moment I first saw the photo of Malkin (on Creators(r)) or somewhere, I was amazed at the close resemblance she has to some kind of rodent....a mental image of Minnie Mouse flashes through my mind every time I hear her name.

After reading some of her poorly researched opinions, maybe I should think of Ms. Mad Mouse when I see her name.

Well, anyway, it is just one of those mental images that is involuntary, and, no doubt, it colors my regard for her writings.

Posted by: SeeDee
Date: April 29, 2007 9:50 PM

Okay kids. Let us stop arguing. Fact remains that despite Clinton's weakness for women throwing themselves at him, he left office with the federal budget balanced,and the country at peace.

Had he simply told Ken Star to get authorization to tie in his private sex life with the whitewater investigation from an idiotic Georgia Congressman having his own little extra-marital affair, then the same clown would have backed down.

Clinton left office with the federal budget balanced, the economy booming, trade deficits down, the country at peace, and a chance at Israel - Arabian peace based on a fair quid pro quo.

If getting a blow job contributed to that, then I am all in favour of raising a fund to send Monica back to the whitehouse in case a Republican is elected in 2008. Then again, we could send in Michelle Malkin as a White House
intern. Most appropriate use for her mind, her pen and her mouth. Send Michelle to the White House as an intern. Don't think Laura would mind it too much these days either.

Posted by: Old timer Keynesian-Roosevelt fan
Date: May 2, 2007 11:04 AM

definatly agree with you.

Posted by: Jamal
Date: May 12, 2007 3:23 PM

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