Bush Confirms It: No Compromising With Congress On Iraq. Now What, Mr. Broder?
April 10, 2007 -- 11:59 AM EST // View Comments (361) // Post a Comment
I'm not sure I've ever seen a columnist proven wrong so quickly. As noted below, The Washington Post's David Broder today argued that Dems should basically give up the game in the confrontation over troop funding in hopes that President Bush will reach some kind of "bargain" with Dems over the war.
As Matthew Yglesias and this blog both argued, however, Bush won't do any such bargaining.
Well, guess who's now confirmed this again: The President himself. Check out this story just moved by the Associated Press, in which the White House not only tells Congress pretty clearly that there will be no compromising, but also basically urinates on their heads in the process:
President Bush on Tuesday invited Democrats to discuss their standoff over a war-spending bill, but he made clear he would not change his position opposing troop withdrawals. The White House bluntly said the meeting would not be a negotiation."It's time for them to get the job done, so I'm inviting congressional leaders from both parties — both political parties — to meet with me at the White House next week," Bush said in a speech to an American Legion audience in Fairfax, Va.
"At this meeting, the leaders in Congress can report on progress on getting an emergency spending bill to my desk," Bush said. "We can discuss the way forward on a bill that is a clean bill, a bill that funds our troops without artificial timetables for withdrawal and without handcuffing our generals on the ground. I'm hopeful we'll see some results soon from the Congress."...
Earlier Tuesday, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino announced Bush's intention to invite Democrats to talk. Her description immediately raised questions about exactly what the point was.
When a reporter said it sounded like an invitation for Democrats to agree with Bush, Perino said, "Well, hopefully so."
Bush has promised to veto any bill that calls for timetables to pull troops out of Iraq.
Perino said Democrats could benefit by accepting Bush's invitation. "Maybe they need to hear again from the president about why he thinks it is foolish to set arbitrary timetables for withdrawal," she said.
Shorter Bush to Congress: Please come to the White House so you can all take a long, hard look at my middle finger.
Bush is staying in Iraq on his own terms. End of story. Now what, Oh Wise and All-Seeing Dean?
Again: If David Broder -- or any other pundit, for that matter -- thinks that the right thing to do is to pull out of Iraq, then sooner or later they should feel obliged to take an actual, realistic position on how Congress might accomplish this. No more positions that depend on whether Bush will do this or that or anything else he will never, ever, ever, ever do.
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> White House so you can all take a long, hard
> look at my middle finger.
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Posted by: goetheanDate: April 10, 2007 12:22 PM
I would suggest they don't go.
Who needs a lecture from bush?
Date: April 10, 2007 12:25 PM
Speaking of not seeing a columnist proven wrong so fast, I recently saw a link to a Broder column praising Bush's post-Katrina performance about 5 days after the storm.
Posted by: DanaDate: April 10, 2007 12:25 PM
Fine. Then the Dems should walk in and hand him articles of impeachment and ask if he's now ready to talk. No quarter.
Posted by: LeonardDate: April 10, 2007 12:29 PM
Yes, elial...they should just not go.
Posted by: MPDate: April 10, 2007 12:33 PM
Once again President Bush demonstrates what his idea of bipartisanship is - "Shut up and do what I tell you."
Posted by: CindyDate: April 10, 2007 12:34 PM
Broder column on Tuesday to blame Imus for Eyerack !
Posted by: Imus stripped our titleDate: April 10, 2007 12:34 PM
My fondest hope at this point is that the Dems don't show up, and instead reply via open letter.
"Mr President, since you have made it clear from the outset that you have no intention of signing the legislation we have presented you with, and have denied the possibility of any substantive negotiation, we see no reason in accepting your invitation to "discuss" the bill in question.
Fondly, Congress."
Doesn't have to be hard, folks.
Posted by: SamDate: April 10, 2007 12:35 PM
I think that the problem is framed wrong. We all know that Bush/Cheney are NOT going to withdrawl. The problem is with the repugs in Congress. They need an incentive to vote to pull out of Iraq.
One-way is for the committe to remove some of the repug talking points: Remove the non-military requested spending - even the Katrina stuff. Put the Katrina stuff in another bill.
Give the Reugs in Congress a choice. Either, they support the troops by fully funding them now (with pull out date), or they don't by delaying the troops 'emergency' funding so that they can keep them in Iraq FOREVER.
How many of the repugs want that on their re-election record. People may be oblivious to most things in Washington, but that is a pretty cut and dry position to understand.
Bush WILL veto. He's irrellavant at this point. It should be about securing the veto override votes.
And if that fails. Re-submit funding bill without the pull-out date. It doesn't matter at that point. The repugs will FOREVER be responding to accusations of not supporting the troops from then on. Give them NO-EXCUSE for not voting this bill into law.
70% of public will continue to support Dems. The MSM is blowing smoke.
Date: April 10, 2007 12:38 PM
Please, Democrats: announce you don't waste your time on morons.
Posted by:Date: April 10, 2007 12:39 PM
Bush can't let the troops leave until the business deal is done with BP, Royal Dutch Shell, and Exxon to divide up the oil fields and have the profits locked in by the Iraqi legislature. He's totally beholden to the oil oligarchy and has no choice but to co-opt the US Military as a security force for their ultra-free-enterprise zone. As an added benefit, they also get to drain the US Treasury so nobody will have any resources to stop them. All wars are fought for economic reasons, without exception.
Code:Silver.. as in $$$$$$$$$$$$
Posted by: Mark PassellDate: April 10, 2007 12:39 PM
It seems so easy. Congress should politely decline the invitation. They should carry on business as usual, reconcile the House and Senate bills and send Bush a bill to veto. In fact, I think this is exactly what Bush is trying to avoid. He doesn't want to be seen as vetoing a perfectly reasonable bill with popular support so he is trying to intimidate and strong arm congressional leaders into caving where there really isn't any need.
So, Pelosi and Reid should say, "No thank you, we're busy" and they they should send Lieberman on some kind of fact finding mission to Antarctica so he will be stay out of trouble and not try to broker some lame assed compromise.
JMHO, but I could charge for it.
Date: April 10, 2007 12:41 PM
Iraq 4ever.
Stay the quagmire.
How in the world did we ever get to this point?
Impeachment really is the only answer.
Posted by: Noam SaneDate: April 10, 2007 12:41 PM
Broder lives in a happy fantasy world. This administration has never been interested in compromise on anything. For Bush compromise = "Democratic capitulation," and that is what Broder is calling for under the guise of a misguided allegiance to "bipartisanship."
Posted by: PeteDate: April 10, 2007 12:43 PM
The Dems have to use Bush as the 'Wedge' issue. Plant the seeds for the next congressional election cycle. Some of the repugs will defect to the middle rather than go down with the ship.
Date: April 10, 2007 12:47 PM
** Josh **
'Bank Chief Helped Female Friend Get Job ' http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-World-Bank-Flap.html
-- World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz is taking ''full responsibility'' for helping a close woman friend get transferred to a high-paying job.
Date: April 10, 2007 12:49 PM
Man, I literally LOL at that line about the finger. Brilliant.
The Dems need to run with this attitude of Bush's. An ad contrasting this with his talks about reaching across the aisle (apparently, doing so only to slap Dems around) should run in swing states, along with photos of the few Republicans still sticking with Bush at that point.
Posted by: FredDate: April 10, 2007 12:50 PM
And of course, Broder will find a way to blame the Democrats for Bush's refusal to negotiate. I'm looking forward to seeing how he manages it.
Posted by: DowntownDate: April 10, 2007 12:50 PM
With every fresh, new revelation in the growing number of scandals, more people in the center see Bush and his clot of cronies for what they are -- and they won't like it. And I have a feeling we haven't seen anything, yet.
This will force the Rethugs to either abandon (in public) the Sucker-Punching Rugy Player, or watch their party get kicked to the curb for the next twenty-five years.
The problem is, they can't. They can't turn their backs on the so-called christians and "family values"; they can't abandon their ultimate allegiance to corporate "free markets" power and money. They can't turn away from the angry white male demographic. The minute they try any of these tactics, their party will fracture, and that's the ball game. And they know it.
That's why we see the Thug "little lie" strategy re-emerging, why people like Specter and Hagel and other Rethugs push a line critical of The Sainted Leader but whose votes don't match their rethoric. Why they keep playing the "liberal" card, the traitor card, with Pelosi. Why they have nothing left but lies... if they ever had anything else to offer.
That's the real tragedy for the GOP: *They have nothing to offer except what will perpetuate crony capitalism and the Tom DeLay-style gravy train.* And that's less than nothing, as far as the rest of the country is concerned.
Posted by: Austin CooperDate: April 10, 2007 12:55 PM
Broder, like Piggy in Lord of the Flies, wants a compromise, but Jack Bush just broke his glasses.
What do you do when the tyrant laughs at your "compromises" and ass-rapes you with gravel?
I guess Broder never fought back in Junior high and just ran to mommy..
Posted by:Date: April 10, 2007 12:55 PM
Fine. Pass the Feingold bill.
Posted by: Tom in AZDate: April 10, 2007 12:56 PM
Unfortunately Senator Levin -- who used to be my favorite senator -- has already announced his plans to capitulate to Bush. My new favorite senator: Russ Feingold.
Let's just say Russ didn't have much, if any, competition.
Posted by: The FoolDate: April 10, 2007 12:59 PM
"At this meeting, the leaders in Congress can report on progress on getting an emergency spending bill to my desk"
How insulting. Congress is a co-equal branch of the government and does not report to the Executive. One assumes the insult is deliberate.
The Democratic leadership should point this out, but more tactly than I do. Hopefully they are busy that day. If Bush wants to talk, he can make his way to their end of the capitol.
Posted by: WapitiDate: April 10, 2007 1:02 PM
These folks mistake civility and patience for weakness.
Subpoenas. Open hearings. US Marshalls if needed. Time for congress to play hardball while time still permits.
Posted by: steveDate: April 10, 2007 1:05 PM
You people are all missing the point. The Democrats should compromise again by agreeing with President Bush.
Posted by: David BroderDate: April 10, 2007 1:11 PM
The Dems should be ashamed for allowing Bush and the press to blather on about "funding the troops,", making it sound as if soldiers will be panhandling on Baghdad streetcorners. The funding is as much for the CONTRACTORS as the troops. No funding, no profit. That's the real story here.
Posted by: porgy tirebiterDate: April 10, 2007 1:12 PM
Treat Bush like Democratic candidates are treating Fox News: DON'T GO!
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Posted by: Hank EssayDate: April 10, 2007 1:14 PM
Given the obvious, um, compensation issues that drive King George, I'd prefer:
"Shorter Bush to Congress: Please come to the White House so you can all take a long, hard look at my short, soft middle finger."
Posted by: ThrackazogDate: April 10, 2007 1:14 PM
Such typical Bush: when you've got a weak hand, ratchet up the bluster another notch. Problem is, it's now being recognized for what it is -- not fortitude, but petulance.
I agree with goldberry, above...Pelosi and Reid should say they're far too busy doing the hard work of trying to reconcile the bills to spend time in a meeting that the President has announced beforehand will not be a negotiation and thus, will not actually do anything to move a bill forward. It would not only be effective, but have the added advantage of being true.
Date: April 10, 2007 1:16 PM
The Dems should put the following on the table if bush won't compromise:
1) all food at the White House will be funded to the level that it is the same as that served to troops in Iraq (cafeteria style in the WH proper), MRE's or their equivalent when the Prez travels
2) electricity, water and sewer services will be funded and provided to the degree that the Prez and the WH will have access to these services to the same extent as the least Iraqi receives them since we blew up their country
3) for the next year bush will not be allowed to vacation or see his wife and family except for the average time that a deployed US serviceman is able to, this shall condition shall expire at the end of a one year "tour of duty" after which bush will have time at home to rest and refit of not less than one year. However, this condition may be extended or reinvoked if it has lapsed, without explanation or recourse if the congress deems it necessary to the safety of the nation.
4) The president shall be required to list his favorite programs and tax cuts. All programs will be defunded and disbanded, tax cuts will be replaced with a corresponding tax increase and the estate tax shall be tripled for estates greater than $100 million.
If the president agrees to these non-negotiable terms then the Democratic congress will agree to funding the war without benchmarks or accountability as "non-negotiably" demanded by shrub.
Posted by: Chris RankDate: April 10, 2007 1:23 PM
Just what the Democrats need--a trip to the White House so that George the Amazing Tantrum Chimp can fling poo at the grownups.
Posted by: Dr. WuDate: April 10, 2007 1:23 PM
Anyone else think the White House will be forced to soften its stance once Congress starts lynching DOJ officials?
Posted by: Navan GheeDate: April 10, 2007 1:23 PM
What the Dems should do is to give Bush a Hobson's choice. Tell him that if he vetoes the bill with a pullout deadline, then the next bill will have no specific deadline, but will prohibit deployment/redeployment of troops to Iraq if they are under-trained, under-equipped, or have not had at least one year at home. Probably also needs a denial of funds for extended deployments.
That should probably accomplish most of the same goals, and the Republicans in Congress would probably support it.
Posted by: chezjakeDate: April 10, 2007 1:24 PM
I'd like to second an observation mentioned above. It poked me in the eye when I read it: "At this meeting, the leaders in Congress can report on progress on getting an emergency spending bill to my desk."
"Report?" Like they're his administrative assistants or some other kind of lackey who's supposed to bring the executive up to date on what he should already know? This word choice is demeaning and implies that all of the work is on Congress's side.
No, they shouldn't go. At least not until Mr. Bush can show a little more respect and a realistic grasp of the legislative process.
Date: April 10, 2007 1:34 PM
A prick , always a prick. The Dems are hopefully quickly
learning the real truth about this president, he's a total
arrogant, asshole who thinks he's never wrong.
Date: April 10, 2007 1:34 PM
Not to put too fine a point on it, but it's deeper than not being willing to bargain. The rhetoric used mirrors one's angry summoning of an aide to your office in order to have the aide justify why the requested task has not been completed.
This points to several things:
1) Lack of respect for a co-equal branch, and perhaps Bush's inability/unwillingness to accept divided government post-November;
2) A fundamental misunderstanding of the implications of such a *deep* policy division;
3) A desire to employe the GOP bitch-slap rhetoric used on the campaign trail against D's in a national security context, again, with its troubling/telling implications.
Date: April 10, 2007 1:36 PM
Here's the thing about a veto. Should Congress ever get to the point where enough Republicans vote to overturn a veto (and who could imagine that?) the next step should be obvious. Bush would spend whatever monies are appropriated under the law for just what the hell he damn pleases. He would simply issue a signing statement indicating that any timetable or any other provision he doesn't like is non-operative, period. HE AND HE ALONE IS THE ONE TRUE UNITARY EXECUTIVE! Bush will continue to do what he damn well pleases until Jan 2009 or his impeachment, trial in the Senate (which he might have to be escorted to in chains, by the way, ranting all the time in a manner not unlike a certain recently demised Iraqi dictator) and removal from office. Fox Propaganda will be in his corner all the way. Democrats who at this point are trying to be civil or tactful about this situation must be well aware of this likely end game.
Posted by: phil jamesDate: April 10, 2007 1:36 PM
Great. I hope to see a press release from Harry Reid around 4pm today expressing lament over the President's refusal to fund the troops in harm's way in accordance with the wishes of the American peopl, and that this is the case because of Bush's famous bull-headedness. He'd rather let the troops remain unfunded rather than make a deal with the popularly elected Congress.
code: "profit."
Posted by: LegalizeDate: April 10, 2007 1:38 PM
GOP talking point buzzword is "hancuffed". I heard someone on the Hardball use it. Of course he also mentioned a rope around the cuffs or some bondage babble.
Posted by: MsInformedDate: April 10, 2007 1:39 PM
Doh! HAndcuffed.
Posted by: MsInformedDate: April 10, 2007 1:40 PM
Y'know, it'd be so much easier if Bush would just bring Cheney out of the shrubbery and let him speak for the administration. Cheney's "Go fuck yourself" has a pithy economy of words that Bush just can't seem to match.
Posted by: GlennDate: April 10, 2007 1:45 PM
It's almost common knowledge that if the Dems can hold the line, next month a bunch more Repubs will join them.
Declining the meeting would be ballsy for sure, but might alienate the public (maybe?) But, if they attent, they should use words like, impeach and de-fund to force Bush into a public statement like "although we met, I couldn't get it done".
Posted by: philnycDate: April 10, 2007 1:45 PM
I think the Democrats are making a HUGE mistake by allowing the White House to frame this as funding the TROOPS. Bush is asking for money to fund a WAR--the troops are secondary. Democrats keep saying, "The troops will get their funding." That only plays into the Republican game plan. Democrats should be talking about how much money the president is asking for to fund HIS war. Talking about funding the troops is dangerous territory.
Security code = "grip". As in, the Democrats should get a grip on the subtleties of the English language.
Posted by: Mark F.Date: April 10, 2007 1:47 PM
Gotta love how monkey trys to sound like a CEO and says, congress will have a chance to report on progress in delivering my bill
Yeah, congress should veto this meeting.
Posted by: philnycDate: April 10, 2007 1:48 PM
"Gotta love how monkey trys to sound like a CEO"
That's his job. He is, after all, the "Unitary Executive".
Posted by: Mark F.Date: April 10, 2007 1:50 PM
As much as it pains me to say, the Dems should accept the invite. Otherwise, it is a certainty that a refusal will be portrayed by the right-wing nuts and, by extension, the mainstream media, as Dems being obstinate, unwilling to compromise, obstructionist, etc.
If they accept, they can claim the high ground and turn the tables. They can say THEY allowed the Prez to articulate his position (reframing the debate as Congress in charge), THEY offered alternatives, and HE rebuffed them. He's the one standing in the way of the public's will.
It's sad that this really is the current state of affairs anyway, but the media can't seem to understand that, so this is the only way to demonstrate it.
Posted by: MartinGauthierDate: April 10, 2007 1:59 PM
Reid and Reed gave a small presser a little while ago. The way I read it is they are not inclined to sit down with the shrub
Posted by: yellowdogDDate: April 10, 2007 2:07 PM
You might say he puts the "unit" in unitary executive.
Posted by: AmericahaterDate: April 10, 2007 2:12 PM
Well, if Bush is the CEO, Congress is the Board of Directors. His boss. He seems to think of congress as his middle management. There to "yes" him and "get things done" for him.
He is in for a surprise.
I guess I can't blame him. The previous congress acted just like that. Gave him plenty of time to vacate on the ranch.
Those days are over!
Posted by: philnycDate: April 10, 2007 2:17 PM
"...but also basically urinates on their heads in the process:..."
As I understand it, watersports are a standard part of the B&D repertoire. A little while ago, I was moved to write that this administration would be at home in a leather bar. Now it seems they want to open that bar in the White House and bring the Dems in as their slaves.
I'm glad to hear the Dems may have had the self-respect to refuse the offer.
Date: April 10, 2007 2:20 PM
Declining the meeting would be ballsy for sure, but might alienate the public (maybe?)
Hardly. MSNBC.com was touting a new poll this morning showing Congress' popularity rising.
I posit that it's rising because they're standing up to Dorquemada.
Posted by: watertigerDate: April 10, 2007 2:22 PM
I'd go and pocket some of the hors d'oeuvres. I mean, not going would let FOX paint the Dems as unwilling to compromise. Which FOX will try to do anyway, but don't give them visuals of empty chairs. Give them visuals of senators laughing as he calls them nicknames, knowing that they are on the brink of outflanking him legislatively.
Posted by: MarkCDate: April 10, 2007 2:31 PM
Forget the wingnuts "painting the Dems as unwilling to compromise." Arbusto is the least willing to compromise of anyone I ever knew. And it has served him extremely well. Forget the "high ground". The public is not concerned about that. It is high time the Democrats pulled down their pants to show a pair of big brass ones and fight fire with fire. I think for congress to come right out and say "No. Bush has made it very clear he will not negotiate, and he has made it clear that he either does not understand the function of the 3 branches of government, or at the very least has nothing but disdain for the other 2, so let him veto the bill. We put the language about withdrawal in there because it's what the public wants. If Bush does not want to FUND THE TROOPS, that's his prerogative."
How'd that be?
That is something that republicans would say. When was the last time you ever heard a democrat speak like that? Why should Dems appear willing to compromise when the other side has no intention of doing the same?
Date: April 10, 2007 3:33 PM
"When that rope pulls tight, you can feel the devil bite!" Bush feels the rope, believe me. He is slowly being brought to heel, like a wayward dog.
There is no way that Bush can walk away from the $100 billion, with or without strings, and still retain his cred. If he vetos, he carries all the burden to explain why he did it. So, let Emperor Chimpoleon stew in his own juices.
To that end, the Democrats should not agree to *any* meeting under Bush schedule or agenda. Democrats should dispatch a protocol team to meet with White House staff, to agree on a time and agenda. NO MEETING without protocol, we will not be "summoned".
KY3 Democrat: "Middle finger? We got one of those too!"
Date: April 10, 2007 3:33 PM
Why doesn't the Democratic leadership simply announce that they have already passed a bill to fund the war, as the pResident requested, and they are now too busy trying to clean up the mess they inherited from the do-nothing Republicans to have time to pass another?
We passed a bill to fund the troops. Sign it, or veto it and bring them home. That puts the ball squarely in W's court, and he can choose to use the funding he was given, or end the war.
Date: April 10, 2007 3:55 PM
Shorter Bush to Congress: Please come to the White House so you can all take a long, hard look at my middle finger.
I don't recall them saying "please." ;)
Posted by: GregoryDate: April 10, 2007 4:25 PM
Bush is a lowlife, but very few people indicate a willingness to compromise before negotiations even start.
Posted by: RichDate: April 10, 2007 7:13 PM
Bush's request for "a clean bill" is not just political posturing. They ardently would rather not veto because then people would see that Bush vetoed a bill that does support the troops. Make him veto it.
-PAK
Date: April 10, 2007 7:54 PM
Does no one realize what is at stake. Open your eyes, people !!!
Date: April 10, 2007 7:59 PM
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