Rush Limbaugh's Lovely "Racially Charged" Songs About Sharpton And Obama
April 27, 2007 -- 3:59 PM EST // View Comments (179) // Post a Comment

Updated below.

Oh, man. You just have to listen to these caricatures of black pols that Rush Limbaugh is pushing right now. They're quite -- how should we put this -- "racially charged."

You may already have heard the "Barack the Magic Negro" shtick that Rush sang on his show the other day (more on that in a bit). But we've found a bunch of new ones that are way more eye-popping. They're done by Paul Shanklin, a self-described "political satirist" who's been doing stuff on Rush's show for many years. You can only access them in the members-only section of Rush's Web site, but we've put together a montage of them for you below.

Let's start with a particularly lovely Rush/Shanklin special. It has a voice parodying an Al Sharpton who is so illiterate that he spells the word "respect" like this: "r-e-s-p-e-c-k." Here's a transcript of the relevant bit, where the Sharpton stand-in is standing outside Barack Obama headquarters asking Obama for attention by singing the following lyrics to the tune of Aretha Franklin's "Respect":

"R-E-S-P-E-C-K. Wha-choo mean it ain't spelt that way? R-E-S-P-E-K-T? I need a dictionary!"

There's more. As Media Matters reported the other day, Rush sang the ditty "Barack the Magic Negro" on his show on March 19, basing the lyrics on an L.A. Times Op-ed piece. But it gets better.

Now Rush is running a new, improved version of the "Magic Negro" song that's way more fleshed out -- and way, way, more eye-opening, too. It features a parody of Sharpton singing about "da hood" and saying that Obama is "ar-ti-coo-late." Just give it a listen, it's hard to describe how low it is.

There are also routines where the Sharpton stand-in insults Obama by saying "yo mama's so fat" and so forth, as well as one where Sharpton demands that Obama explain himself to the "commooonity." Listen to them all here:

This is hardly a new point, of course, but it still never ceases to amaze that top officials of the Republican Party -- including the Vice President -- go on a show that traffics in this sort of thing.

Whaddaya think, all?

Special thanks to TPM associate editor Ben Craw for making the video and to reporter-researcher Eric Kleefeld for help in digging these up.


Update: As commenter Crust points out, President Bush himself went on Limbaugh in November of 2006.

Update II: Much more on this from Digby and John Amato, who says sources are telling him that stations around the country are getting heavily criticized for airing this bile.

Meanwhile, one other point. It's sad that this has to be repeated so often, but so be it: This is not a free speech issue. It's about the fact that top officials in one of the two major political parties in America -- including the President and Vice President -- have no problem lending whatever credibility they have left to someone who's trafficking in the worst kind of vile, demeaning garbage, in exchange for the use of his megaphone. Rush can say whatever he wants. Likewise, so can his critics. They can even put pressure on his advertisers if they like -- also a form of speech. The stations that air Rush's crap will weigh whatever benefits they accrue from running Rush against whatever costs are incurred as a result of the criticism running Rush brings. These stations are not obliged to run Rush. If they were to decide not to, that would be their choice. It would not an impingement on Rush's right to free speech.

Again: This is not a free speech issue. This is not a free speech issue. This is not a free speech issue. Okay?


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COMMENTS:

Sorry -- making fun of a public figure is a lot more "in bounds" than calling the Rutgers team a bunch of "nappy headed hos".

As much as I detest Rush -- this seems merely like edgy political humor to me, and I'm sure we've seen similar from the left making fun of, say, southern white preachers and the like.

Posted by: dc-resident
Date: April 27, 2007 4:13 PM


Racist scum

Posted by: Randy
Date: April 27, 2007 4:14 PM

dunno, this is pure amos and andy. I'd say it definitely rivals Imus

Posted by: Greg
Date: April 27, 2007 4:16 PM

Greg writes:

"This is hardly a new point, of course, but it still never ceases to amaze that top officials of the Republican Party -- including the Vice President -- go on a show that traffics in this sort of thing"

Including the President himself. Cheney's a regular, but Limbaugh has interviewed Bush too.

Posted by: Crust
Date: April 27, 2007 4:18 PM

Rush is an idiot. So are his listeners. Imus for the right wing.

Posted by: Mark F.
Date: April 27, 2007 4:20 PM

Yeah it was right around the time that Cheney first appeared on Rush that Rush lost his ability to have sex.

Coincidence?...

Posted by: philnyc
Date: April 27, 2007 4:20 PM

Rawstory link for a Limbaugh interview of President Bush:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_tells_Rush_hes_deeply_concerned_1101.html

(The link to Limbaugh's site is broken. I think you now need to be a member -- which I'm not -- to read it.)

Posted by: Crust
Date: April 27, 2007 4:21 PM

The predicted justification by them will be that Sacha Baron Cohen did a fake talk show spot on his ali G show where the word "respekt" wasn't even in the dictionary anymore. I'm not saying that the spoofs are identical in nature or that Cohen was more appropriate. I'm just passing on the information.

Posted by: cschmitt
Date: April 27, 2007 4:22 PM

I'm sure we can count on Ann Althouse to get into a big snit over politicians kowtowing to this "hate" site... I mean, her being a sensible moderate and all.

Posted by: dave
Date: April 27, 2007 4:23 PM

Maybe someone should ask the VP or Prez if they think this kind of thing is okay, and if not why they go on his show?

For me the Imus flap was not about him being a racist idiot, but about the high-profile Beltway insiders who support his show, and tacitly that kind of rhetoric.

Posted by: Pete
Date: April 27, 2007 4:23 PM

Well, the fact of the matter is that Sharpton has a thick accent and a somewhat sleazy demeanor. There's no way to parody him without it looking like a racist stereotype because the very personal characteristics most recognizable as Sharptonesque are racially charged. If you put someone in a wig and have them imitate his voice, for example - which is the typical "SNL" style of parodying someone - your parody will inevitably be subject to accusations of racism.

Posted by: Fluffy
Date: April 27, 2007 4:24 PM

GOP: Racist sacks o' crap down to the last man.

Posted by: jeaton
Date: April 27, 2007 4:25 PM

Lovely sentiments being expressed by Rush.....

Why are right wingers so afraid of black men?

Posted by: D.
Date: April 27, 2007 4:27 PM

Fluffy, there's something to what you say, but I'd say that "respeck" kinda crosses the line...after all, Sharpton is many things, but not illiterate...

Posted by: greg
Date: April 27, 2007 4:28 PM

Thank god Imus was fired, and there aren't anymore racists polluting radioland.

Posted by: Wilson
Date: April 27, 2007 4:29 PM

I was wondering how long it would take for this to happen. I mean, for years Rush has done stuff like this, but it has only been recently that his actions have been recorded daily by his opposition.

Posted by: E-dog9
Date: April 27, 2007 4:30 PM

Fluffy,

Why does a parody of Sharpton have to involve "black" things? Is it because that's the way most (white) people identify him?

Why are those characteristics racially charged in the first place?

Posted by: John
Date: April 27, 2007 4:31 PM

brian williams and drugbaugh are BFF.

I wonder what williams thinks of the good pals "racially charged" songs.

Posted by: hadenough
Date: April 27, 2007 4:31 PM

The LA times called him the magic Negro. Rush is simply making fun of the article. Where is the outrage on the LA times article?

Posted by: Cdnerds
Date: April 27, 2007 4:32 PM

Greg writes:

"This is hardly a new point, of course, but it still never ceases to amaze that top officials of the Republican Party -- including the Vice President -- go on a show that traffics in this sort of thing"

That's exactly the point, even if Imus had never existed. I think the explanation is that most lefties don't listen to Rush and really do not know what goes on in that world. I for one never knew about this stuff until you and others started writing about it when the Imus thing broke. And the righties that love him of course eat this stuff up. Maybe now that some light is being shed the cockroaches will run for cover.

R-A-C-I-S-T, tell you what it means to me...

Posted by: Dawn
Date: April 27, 2007 4:32 PM

Agree with dc-resident. Freedom of Speech means just that, except for flagrant across-the-line violations of civility (aka Imus).

Posted by: bordersmuggler
Date: April 27, 2007 4:33 PM

Racism has never seemed funny to me. But I don't laugh when the movies show people being beaten to death with baseball bats either. Or violent rape scenes. I don't laugh at those either.

I guess it's just me.

Posted by: Michael
Date: April 27, 2007 4:35 PM

Ha, you all fell for his bait!

Rush was only pretending to be a racist to see if you would fall for it and criticize him - which you did!

Punk'd!!!

Posted by: Culture of Truth
Date: April 27, 2007 4:35 PM

Al Sharpton makes his living by being a black racist. Any comments about Sharptons methods or attitudes are bound to have racist overtones and implications. I hope he and Rush really get into a knock-down drag-out fight. It would be interesting to watch from the sidelines.

Posted by: Johann
Date: April 27, 2007 4:38 PM

Expressing outrage is not enough. Can someone make up a list of companies that advertise on Rush's show, both nationally and locally?

A call for a nationwide boycott of the offensive supporters of this kind of slime can work wonderful magic in very short order.

Posted by: Buck
Date: April 27, 2007 4:38 PM

I'm not sure the issue is free speech here. It's not really about whether or not Rush should be allowed to do this stuff and more about the fact that the leaders of one of the major political parties in the most powerful country in the world are happy to be associated with it.

Posted by: greg
Date: April 27, 2007 4:38 PM

Fluffy,

And Sharpton is dumb and can't spell. And Obama is a magic negro. So I guess you are right.

The whole thing is just good fun.

Posted by: hadenough
Date: April 27, 2007 4:39 PM

Why are they trying so hard to tie Sharpton to Barack? Because they've already trained their racist minions to hate Sharpton, so instead of defining Obama, they're just going to say, oh, he's just like that other black leader, Al Sharpton (which is a racist thing to do anyway, of the they're-all-the-same variety).

Ugly.

How surprising that they try to hide it away in their members' only section. Interestingly, you could easily see it backfiring with people who don't like Sharpton, as listeners start to think that Obama compares pretty favorably to him.

The posters trying to set up false equivalencies upstream are pretty confused. Racism doesn't get much more blatant that these songs. Wake up and smell the coffee. Borrowing the term "Magic Negro" from a rather academic article by an African-American writer in the L.A. Times doesn't make it okay. It's one thing to say that as a sociological analysis and quite another to use it in an obviously derogatory manner in these extremely degrading songs.

Posted by: ohiomeister
Date: April 27, 2007 4:40 PM

So its ok to hurl racial insults and racist stereotypes at presidential candidates as long as an animated figure does it and not an actual, live person? At what stage of cultural and societal disintegration will this country have sunken to by the time we reach a month or two before the actual election? If this is where we are now I am ashamed to think of the depths of racism and personal destruction will exist by November 2008. Limbaugh is surely one of the lowest forms of humanity created in America.

Posted by: djcrow22
Date: April 27, 2007 4:41 PM

"The LA times called him the magic Negro. Rush is simply making fun of the article. Where is the outrage on the LA times article?"

you mean the article written by an african-american film critic making a reference to a device that's used in films?

Posted by: pgw
Date: April 27, 2007 4:42 PM

the thing is this coincides precisely with George Lakoff's writing in 'Moral Politics' that conservatives or those who have a 'Strict-Father' perspective also have to make fun of their liberal opponents. The fun is exceedingly personal and cut into personal characterizations.

While the satarist humor liberals perform is exposing the utter hyprocracy a conservative's actions. This goes to the heart that liberals have a conscience of the public good.

Rush is a racist, and he profit's by it, oh that is the code word profit

Posted by: RWN
Date: April 27, 2007 4:42 PM

I think he needs to be fired - same as Imus. None of these hatemongers should be able to dish out this crap anymore without severe consequences.

Posted by: Jeanni
Date: April 27, 2007 4:43 PM

Should this be a surprise to anyone?

If you thought Coker had the ads in 2006 just wait for 2008.

I'm sure that the Repulsians have ten "uppity nigger" advertisement working groups already formed.

Sad thing is that those kind of ads will work.

Posted by: Rick Davis
Date: April 27, 2007 4:43 PM

Greg, I agree with you the issue is not free speech. Limbaugh has a right to say this. The issue is that Cheney, Bush (!) and so on consent to interviews with him thereby lending him some credibility.

Sorry to plug my own comment @4:21, but I would suggest updating your story to note that he has interviewed President Bush himself (not just Cheney).

I do think the point that Sharpton and Obama are public figures is a somewhat mitigating factor in comparison to Imus. But this is still or should still be beyond the pale in my view.

Posted by: Crust
Date: April 27, 2007 4:46 PM

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you get to have a nationwide radio show promoting racism.

I really think Limbaugh's corporate sponsors are going to have an incredibly hard time justifying keeping their ads on his now obviously racist show, especially in the wake of Imus. Are they really going to want to be sponsors of the guy with the racist songs about a candidate who could be America's first African-American president?

Limbaugh can claim that he is being persecuted and run to satellite radio if those stations want him. He'll still be free to speak all he wants out there.

Posted by: ohiomeister
Date: April 27, 2007 4:47 PM

It's just how white folks are.

Posted by: sherifffruitfly
Date: April 27, 2007 4:49 PM

John -

A parody of Sharpton would involve "black" things - [his appearance and his accent] for the same reason a parody of Bush would involve his chimp-like face, fake good old boy accent, and inability to speak the English language - because these surface characteristics are the most immediately recognizable features of public figures.

His accent in particular would be the most useful instrument in building the parody character when we're talking about radio.

I don't really have a defense of the spelling thing, which does seem a little out there. I'm more concerned with the issues raised here about Sharpton's speech pattern and accent somehow not being acceptable topics for parody. And besides, if someone did a parody where Bush couldn't spell "CAT" I'd laugh. If it's OK to say that Bush is too dumb to spell "CAT", why isn't it OK to say Sharpton is too dumb to spell "RESPECT"?

Rush is a fool who chained his wagon to Bush and went down with him - but it has to be OK to do parodies of figures like Sharpton.

Posted by: Fluffy
Date: April 27, 2007 4:51 PM

For ages, an often tell-tale sign of a Rush listener has been that the listener's small repetoire of jokes seem to always involve Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. In isolation, someone, say dc-resident above, can make a case that this stuff is okay but edgy. However, it's just another link in a long chain of racist crap Rush feeds to his audience.

Posted by: Flip Wilson
Date: April 27, 2007 4:52 PM

Other than listening to his racist diatribes, any ideas on identifying his sponsors?

Posted by: djcrow22
Date: April 27, 2007 4:53 PM

Aside from its obvious race baiting (not surprising for Rush), it's also terribly unfunny and not at all entertaining. That's what surprises me -- Rush may be a vacuous, hateful, racist gasbag, but he's a pretty entertaining radio host.

Posted by: Todd and in Charge
Date: April 27, 2007 4:56 PM

Can someone copile and display a list of sponsors of The Rush Readio talk show and their addresses so a campaign to write to them can take shape?

Posted by: gregor
Date: April 27, 2007 5:03 PM

From RushLimbaughonline.com:
Rushs advertisers:

Make a few calls...

AutoZone (901) 495-6500
Bose Wave Radio 508-766-7781
Mission Pharmacal
(makers of Citracal) (800) 531-3333
General Steel Metal Buildings 1-888-98-STEEL
Hotwire Discount Travel 415-343-8444
Lending Tree (704) 541-5351
Life Quotes 1-800-670-5433
Select Comfort 763-551-7460
Mission Pharmacal
(makers of Thera-gesic) (800) 531-3333
Overstock.com (801) 947-3100

Posted by: djcrow22
Date: April 27, 2007 5:04 PM

no, dc-resident, this is not just edgy political humor. first of all, its not funny. second of all, it is a direct statement that black people are too stupid to spell correctly. and its not taking on a major public figure, its derisively describing his supporters are mindless black people voting for the black guy who can't spell because they're stupid. its much much worse than what Imus said. i don't think imus' comments were really any worse than his usual shtick, i think he simply never should have had that kind of a platform in the first place. its fun for someone like him to have his little radio show where he can share his stupidity with the ignorami who support him, but several hours per day in a key timeslot? only in america.

Posted by: benj
Date: April 27, 2007 5:04 PM

I think it's time to convene another rap lyrics panel.

Posted by: sherifffruitfly
Date: April 27, 2007 5:05 PM

For me it's not the material; I expect that from Rush and the right-wing. It's the fact thst despite material like this, top Republican politicians appear on his show and by so doing, legitimize it.

Posted by: DanF
Date: April 27, 2007 5:07 PM

dc-resident, Fluffy:

This isn't a "freedom of speech" issue. Indeed, it never is, so could you guys stop yanking that out of your pocket when somebody is criticized for making racist comments? Nobody is going to Congress asking them to pass a law banning Rush Limbaugh.

We're asking that he lose his nationwide audience. Whether that happens because his listeners become increasingly embarrassed by his racism or because his advertisers no longer want to be associated with him, I don't quite see what the defense of Rush here is supposed to be?

Yes, Sharpton is a public figure, and certainly has opened himself up to criticism over the years. And one would hope that a clever fellow like Rush could figure out how to do that in a non-racist manner. Somehow SNL pulls this kind of thing off all the time. But that's not what Rush is doing. He's playing on racist stereotypes because that's his stock in trade. It's what he always does.

cschmitt: sascha baron cohen makes fun of racism. Rush uses racism. Anybody who cannot tell parody apart from reality is beyond help. (Not saying that you have this problem, but I'm a bit tired of this kind of concern.)

As for the idea that a black film critic at the LA Times somehow opened the door to Rush's racism, that's pretty ludicrous. Again, Ehrenstein was discussing racism. Rush is simply using it.

Posted by: RickD
Date: April 27, 2007 5:08 PM

At this point Rush is aiming to become a martyr for the RW media...

No way to explain this outrageous and blatent racism

Posted by: Lib4
Date: April 27, 2007 5:09 PM

As a sponsor on Rush Limbaughs international radio show, does your company agree with the racist and divisive programming regarding Barack Obama, Al Sharpton and others this week?

How about some ideas and improvement to this question?

Posted by: djcrow22
Date: April 27, 2007 5:12 PM

I'm disappointed in Rush and his catamite friend. Nothing poking fun at President Alan Keyes? Is Keyes a Republican or something?

Posted by: stuart
Date: April 27, 2007 5:15 PM

"second of all, it is a direct statement that black people are too stupid to spell correctly. and its not taking on a major public figure, its derisively describing his supporters are mindless black people voting for the black guy who can't spell because they're stupid."

Exactly BenJ. The problem is that these shows are so consistent in this kind of humor that one could say it's been accepted for long enough to make it acceptable...

I think it's a free speech issue and while there should not be any law against it you could call the sponsors. That's what happened to Imus.

Call the sponsors. Picket the sponsors. It's one thing to be a guest on the show it's another thing to PAY for that show.

Call the sponsors and tell others to call the sponsors if you don't like it. That's what the relig right do and that's every American's right.

Posted by:
Date: April 27, 2007 5:16 PM

bodersmuggler - how often do you (racist sympathizers) people need to have this explained to you. this is nothing to do with freedom of speech. the government is not coming to arrest rush limpd#ck for saying this. freedom of speech does not mean that anyone can say anything at any time and expect there to be no consequences. it means the government can't create laws which prevent even idiotic, racist satire. why about this is not obvious?

Posted by: benj
Date: April 27, 2007 5:19 PM

The R-E-S-P-E-C-K thing is not making fun of spelling, it's making fun of black dialect.

Posted by: Daverz
Date: April 27, 2007 5:20 PM

...

so, the "joke" for us to get
is that Black people are so stupid.

That's the joke right?

Don't tell me it's deeper than that.

...

Posted by: wellstoner
Date: April 27, 2007 5:20 PM

If you don't think a boycott can work, try asking Wal-Mart why they quit carrying Maurice Bessinger's Bar-B-Q sauce.

I just shopped at Autozone today. Next time I'll go to Pep Boys to get my parts.

Posted by: Buck Batard
Date: April 27, 2007 5:20 PM

Yeah, what benj said...

Posted by: djcrow22
Date: April 27, 2007 5:21 PM

With myriad "progressive" targets to satirize, Limbaugh laughs all the way to the bank. You saying Reverend Sharpton is worthy of "respeck"?

Posted by: PalmBeachVoter
Date: April 27, 2007 5:22 PM

Never buy anything from Bose again unless they make a public announcement.

Posted by: Buck Batard
Date: April 27, 2007 5:23 PM

I bet Rush thanks God every day that there's an Al Sharpton.

There are many more respectable civil rights leaders than Sharpton. I wonder why they never get on the air.

Posted by: Horatio Parker
Date: April 27, 2007 5:24 PM

c'mon, it's just rush's way of getting out the black vote

i just hope that they'll vote against every republican running in the process

Posted by: tofubo
Date: April 27, 2007 5:29 PM

I like it. Democrats should make audio copies and replay them in ads run on black/inner city radio stations during election time. I'm not so surprise or outraged that GOP types do this sort of thing, only that we don't make them pay dearly for it.

Posted by: Chris D.
Date: April 27, 2007 5:29 PM

"second of all, it is a direct statement that black people are too stupid to spell correctly. and its not taking on a major public figure, its derisively describing his supporters are mindless black people voting for the black guy who can't spell because they're stupid."

So all the jokes about Quayle's spelling issues, or Bush's lack of intellect, are an assault on all whites and all Republicans?

It ain't funny stuff, but it's commenting on (1) the "Magic Negro" piece, (2) the rise of Barack coinciding with the apparent decline of influence of "old school" figures like Sharpton and Jackson, (3) the "articulate" comment by Biden, etc.

I remember some political cartoonist a while back talking about being accused as being anti-Jew because he depicted Ariel Sharon as a fat guy with a big nose. Well.....

Posted by: 2Busy2Care
Date: April 27, 2007 5:30 PM

Let's focus on results, and the things that work. Limbaugh's power and media penetration rests on his corporate sponsors -- and the access that they think they are buying to prized demographics. They like money, not controversy. Shake them, and Limbaugh will tremble.

-- Bokonon

Posted by: Bokonon
Date: April 27, 2007 5:34 PM

I’m a passionate defender of free speech, but I find this coded racism a disgrace.

And it’s not new. Its practitioners know not to use outright triggers like the n-word or other racial or ethnic slurs and thereby escape discipline by their employers or the FCC, but they know full well what they do – as do their fans and the yahoos who think it’s funny.

A few years ago, there was a deejay in Los Angeles, dead now, who would find barely literate blacks, women or member of ethnic groups – usually immigrants – with little or no education and very heavy accents. He would ask them about some serious matter. Of course these people would sound unintentionally comic, but our deejay would use these little audio clips to punctuate his patter. His studio stooges would laugh uproariously.

He didn’t like Jews either, but was careful there, too. He would make sarcastic remarks about the people in community x or y, knowing that these places had large Jewish populations and knowing his fans did, too.

Then his stooges would say things like, "Oh, you're so bad!"

As someone pointed out, this Limbaugh crap is not the parody of a Sacha Cohen or SNL or Jackie Mason or Don Rickles. Most people recognize parody and the people who laugh loudest are the victims of it. .

This latest Limbaugh filth is intended to make the person and, by implication, the group looks stupid and illiterate.

If the victims of this racist crap want to get back at this gasbag, they’ll have to go after his corporate sponsors and the politicians that appear on his show.

A systematic effort just might work.

Posted by: anon
Date: April 27, 2007 5:35 PM

Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson just need to call for a boycott of all the companies that support Rush.

I'm also going to listen to Rush locally to find out who advertises on his time slot so as to know not to shop there.

I urge others to do the same and bloggers, make haste and get the word out.

Not only that, I'm a white guy who grew up in the South. Most white southerners, excepting the redneck element, find this kind of thing offensive too.
Just Google Maurice Bessinger and Wal-Mart to see how this kind of message can go viral quickly.


Posted by: Buck Batard
Date: April 27, 2007 5:36 PM

Rush doesn't know I'm black.

Posted by: David Ehrenstein
Date: April 27, 2007 5:40 PM

Bush and Cheney and all those other Republicans show up on Rush's "minstrel show" because that's where the people who vote for them live.

Posted by: madmike
Date: April 27, 2007 5:43 PM

So post his sponsor list, and their email addresses, and let's contact all the national corporate advertisers with links to this racist crap.

Posted by: Barry in MIA
Date: April 27, 2007 5:47 PM

Let's not wait for ANYONE to call for a boycott -- especially not Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton (whom I loathe, as a native New Yorker that witnessed his revolting behavior during the Tawana Brawley scandal).

Act individually and but in concert. Just let Limbaugh's advertisers know what you think. Such a simple act, with such massive financial implications. They just HATE controversy.

-- Bokonon

Posted by: Bokonon
Date: April 27, 2007 5:49 PM

I am afraid there seems to be more tolerance for people who are public figures. Was the Gay community upset about Coulter's comments about Edwards. Unless the entire African American stands up and and shows outrage that this is not tolerable, nothing will be done. It shouldn't matter that Rush is putting down males who hold a stature in the public eye, it should still be considered a disgrace to all African Americans. You know there is something sick this fat weasel, aren't Americans just sick of him and all his crowd.

Posted by: Lisa
Date: April 27, 2007 5:50 PM

Limbaugh is a racist Republican shill, using race baiting to attack a Democratic candidate for the color of his skin.

He's trying to incite fratricide within the black community and democrats generally.

Posted by:
Date: April 27, 2007 5:50 PM

If you're suggesting that Al Sharpton be off-limits to satire, see a medico to cure your terminal earnestness.

Posted by: PalmBeachVoter
Date: April 27, 2007 5:50 PM

What's up with this? Rush is no racist. In fact, he loves black people so much, he and his Viagra bottle are frequent visitors to the Dominican Republic, where I hear they have lots of lovely young black boys.

Posted by: minion
Date: April 27, 2007 5:56 PM

It has been said many times. For the vp of the USA to regularly use the stage provided by the gasbag limbaugh, in itself speaks volumes about the this administrations true prejudice.

Posted by: karl cook
Date: April 27, 2007 5:56 PM

This does not surprise me at all, and it saddens and infuriates me whenever this sort of garbage pops up. But, I'll try to see the silver lining in this. And I think there is one.

First, there is some irony in the whole reference to a dictionary thing. Hey Rush, guess what? You're going to need one soon because all things that USED to be defined minority will be defined majority and you'll need to change up your verbiage...A LOT. Oh to see the curdled look on your face on that day.

And second, I'll also add that the more the Republicans and their mouthpieces bash, abuse and alienate all things not rich, white & Christian the fewer people they'll have at the polls. And at some point the only way a Republican will be able to get elected to ANY office is if they form their own rich, white & Christian City-states... oh wait, Disney has already started doing that haven't they?

Posted by: mcboo
Date: April 27, 2007 6:05 PM

"The LA times called him the magic Negro. Rush is simply making fun of the article. Where is the outrage on the LA times article?"

No, "The LA Times" did no such thing. An op-ed contributor in the LA Times used the term, but op-ed contributors don't speak for the paper. When Dick Cheney writes an op-ed for the New York Times, does that mean that the New York Times should be blamed for Cheney's point of view? Of course not.

Posted by: NYLefty
Date: April 27, 2007 6:05 PM

Well, I went to clearchannel's web site to call an complain... but of course no answer..I think this should take the sponsors back a few, because I know that I will scream and I hope that sharpton and Baraka do the same! This is just pure bigotry!

Posted by: fatkat
Date: April 27, 2007 6:07 PM

You cant fire Rush he owns the show and is the major share holder partner in the syndication. The only way he can get fired is if he fires himself.

Posted by: Cdnerds
Date: April 27, 2007 6:09 PM

I don't think anyone is saying that sharpton is off limits to satire. rather, the point is that the president and the vice president probably shouldn't be going on the show of someone who traffics in such garbage. I don't know why that has to be repeated again and again.

Posted by:
Date: April 27, 2007 6:14 PM

LOL, Rush wins again!! He already explained that this isn't racist and that it would be taken out of context, and then the st00pit libZ fall for it and call it "racist." ROTFL. What about Robert "Grand Master" Byrd!?!

/Seriously, this is what I've been told by Rush fans on previous occasions. Seriously.

Posted by: Legalize
Date: April 27, 2007 6:17 PM

Don't bother boycotting the LA Times for printing an op-ed labeling Obama "the magic negro."

The LA Times is headed due south already, losing readership and sponsors across the board. Not a moment too soon, and good riddance.

Posted by: PalmBeachVoter
Date: April 27, 2007 6:19 PM

Will people please get off this "Sharpton is a black racist" crap? Opportunist, sure. A demagogue, yeah. Give us examples.

But it's the sheerest kind of know-nothingism to call him a racist, largely on the basis that he sticks up for blacks. This is the line that the drug addict has been pushing, and it stinks.

Posted by: Jim H
Date: April 27, 2007 6:20 PM

Rush knows exactly what he is doing.

Al Sharpton is used by the right-wing to discredit the civil rights community. (Why else would O'Reilly have him on his show so often, after writing (in The O'Reilly Factor) that Sharpton and David Dukes "are the two most ridiculous racial demagogues in the USA". And pathetically, Sharpton agrees to go on O'Reilly despite what has been written about him.

Rush wants Sharpton to be in the news as often as possible, and associated with the Democratic Party as often as possible. Rush wants to be attacked for "parodying" Sharpton -- because this story will always be presented with "two sides", one side decrying Rush's racism, and the other side asking why Dave Chappelle can get away with something like this, or talking about 'gansta' rap.

BTW, Lending Tree has an "online chat" function... my guess is that a few hundred people contacting their chat agents will get their attention.

Posted by: paul_lukasiak
Date: April 27, 2007 6:22 PM

A person has two reasons for doing something, a good reason and the REAL reason. I listened to Imus for about 20 yrs. I don't believe that his sponsors backed out over his remarks as quoted. The fat lady has yet to sing. There's much more to follow.

Posted by: AnnaCatherine
Date: April 27, 2007 6:29 PM

Rush is so crafty!
you fell for his "bait", just like Media Matters!
now, don't you feel foolish?

you've got to wonder what goes on between the man's ears. is he bound and determined to prove he can get away with that crap?

Posted by: cage free brown
Date: April 27, 2007 6:32 PM

David! Great to see you here! How's my favorite Magic Negro doing?

Y'know, "Rush doesn't know I'm black" would make a faaabulous t-shirt. I'd wear one, and I'm white.

Posted by: Raph Levien
Date: April 27, 2007 6:38 PM

I despise Rush Limbaugh. He’s an ugly, ugly, scary character. He profits enormously by pushing all the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic buttons he can find on his low-brow audience. He and his ilk are so destructive it’s depressing. But I also think that Al Sharpton is a prime target for parody, and I agree with Fluffy that his most superficial characteristics – e.g. his accent – are always going to be part of the parody. Does that mean that all parodies of Sharpton are ipso facto racist?

Posted by: Hautblossom
Date: April 27, 2007 6:38 PM

Crooks & Liars has some news on this:

BREAKING: Limbaugh’s “Barack the Magic Negro,” on-air song has workers up in arms:

I've been told that they have held meetings internally to deal with a ground swell of anger at Rush because of this.

"UPDATE: I've anonymously confirmed that stations around the country who carry the show are having concerns expressed by listeners and even their own workers of color about the Obama parody, and the ensuing controversy in the media, and that respective managements are considering ways to address the matter with as little Imus-like backlash as possible,..This is starting to boil over…"

A caller noticed there was a disclaimer added to the station she listens to and asks Rush why.

He may have finally rushed into his own "Imus moment"...

Posted by: Connecticut Man1
Date: April 27, 2007 6:38 PM

As long as the political left serves up myriad target for satire, Limbaugh will do his thing.

Posted by: PalmBeachVoter
Date: April 27, 2007 6:42 PM

I'm surprised we haven't heard more about Rush the Limpstick's visits to the Dominican Republic on "sex tours" where this freak may be doing little boys. One would think that some travel agent would have leaked something by now.
I've got to believe a good private eye could come up with the goods.

Posted by: PI
Date: April 27, 2007 6:53 PM

Seems simple enough. Hit them where it hurts most.

We need a national boycott of his advertisers (Move.On., take it on?. You'd get most every black and a good chunk of whites to participate.

(Apologies if this has already been suggested)

Posted by: Steve
Date: April 27, 2007 6:55 PM

Republicans media figures can do ANYTHING and get away with it.


IOKIYAR.

Same old shit, different day.

Posted by: r€nato
Date: April 27, 2007 6:56 PM

I think this has been created to draw attacks from the left. Rush will get points from his audience by "standing up" to the "assault." Really look at the video -- it's as dumb as Rush is. I'd say ignore it.

Posted by: dick c
Date: April 27, 2007 6:56 PM

Seems simple enough. Hit them where it hurts most.

We need a national boycott of his advertisers (Move.On., take it on?. You'd get most every black and a good chunk of whites to participate.

(Apologies if this has already been suggested)

Posted by: Steve
Date: April 27, 2007 6:56 PM

Seems simple enough. Hit them where it hurts most.

We need a national boycott of his advertisers (Move.On., take it on?. You'd get most every black and a good chunk of whites to participate.

(Apologies if this has already been suggested)

Posted by:
Date: April 27, 2007 6:58 PM

Seems simple enough. Hit them where it hurts most.

We need a national boycott of his advertisers (Move.On., take it on?. You'd get most every black and a good chunk of whites to participate.

(Apologies if this has already been suggested)

Posted by: Steve
Date: April 27, 2007 7:00 PM

" Rush wants Sharpton to be in the news as often as possible, and associated with the Democratic Party as often as possible. "

Exactly.

Obama is talking to all Americans with a positive message of common goals. Obama is a mainstream candidates, and Limbaugh knows it, which is exactly why he's attempting to drag Obama down.

Both Obama and Sharpton already know there are major differences between them, and don't need Limbaugh trying to exploit and divide people in hostility.

It's not just blacks at issue here, it's the whole tone of American politics. It's easy to divide people along infinite divides. It keeps them fighting each other and stops them from accomplishing common goals.

We're at a cross roads. this is a national moment of conscience.

We can choose a positive direction with candidates like Obama, and work together to accomplish common goals, or we can keep allowing people like Limbaugh to incite every divide he can, keep pointing fingers, and watch the country further degenerate.

Limbaugh is a hate monger. As a culture we need to rise above that, or we all suffer the consequences.

Posted by: kozmik
Date: April 27, 2007 7:05 PM

Why the heck does it amaze you that senior Republicans go on Rush's show? Bush and the rest... they are all racist thugs. Their racism helps them to destroy people for a profit.

I am surprised you are surprised. You've spent too much time in DC.

Posted by: lightspeed
Date: April 27, 2007 7:06 PM

Anybody here remember "Homie Claus" from In Living Color? "Homie don't play that."

It's utterly wrong to equate the view from below (oppressed blacks) with the view from above (white oppressors). Homosexuals may call each other "faggot" in a way that is, while not benign, an implicit shared recognition of social status. They may even do it in a way that is painfully funny. The same is true for blacks, asians, women (ah, "The Notorious C.H.O."), and other minorities. The purpose of the humor is to break the mold while acknowledging it.

The purpose of the Limbaugh humor is to maintain the mold and continue the oppression. In humor, intent is significant. The members of the oppressed classes recognize the intent for what it is.

A really good explication of this point can be found in Cone's A Black Theology of Liberation. Worth the read, I think, even if you aren't a Christian.

Thanks.

mp

Posted by: Michael
Date: April 27, 2007 7:11 PM

They're screwed--they tried to inoculate themselves against charges of racism by (a) having a subordinate voice the most racist stuff, rather than Limbaugh himself, and (b) saying over and over that the LA Times called him a 'negro' first.

But (a) didn't help Imus at all, and (b) doesn't work, either, any more than it helped Imus that he was repeating a black subordinate's words--because, crucially, the LA Times writer in question is BLACK. (As is the person who invented the phrase, "magical negro"--Spike Lee.)

Just as with the other n-word, having a WHITE person say it, let alone make long, 'comical' songs about it in racist put-on accents, plunges Rush right into The Racism Danger Zone.

The more this is dwelled on in the press, the more screwed Rush is going to be. He slipped up, despite doing everything he could to make his racism both unmistakable to anyone with ears and oh-so-deniable.

Posted by: Huck
Date: April 27, 2007 7:23 PM

Limbaugh owns his show and won't be intimidated by the race-grievance industry. It's been tried many times. He's been satirizing the peccadillos of the Reverend Jackson, e.g., for many years.

Imus had a pissant audience vs. Limbaugh's and was an employee subject to the whims of his employers. Moreover, unlike Rush, Imus wasn't very funny.

The overarching question is: beyond Imus, who in hell wants to listen to Frank Rich?

Posted by: PalmBeachVoter
Date: April 27, 2007 7:41 PM

Folks,

Get over this race thing! Racism is a TWO WAY
street and Sharpton is nothing more than a
bonafided BLACK RACIST! He can get away with
saying just what he likes and no one cares or
even questions it and besides, since when did
you, myself, anyone else and this country have
to bow the likes of Sharpton and Jackson anyway??

All this is just plain silly - as for Rush... those parodies are just plain funny!!

Posted by: chas
Date: April 27, 2007 7:59 PM

Palm Beach Voter translated: As long as the "progressive community" insists on having lots of black people, they're asking for it.

Yes, Rush has been making fun of Jesse Jackson's peccadillos for years. Like when he said that all composite sketches of criminals look like the Reverend Jackson.

He has that dramatic way of saying "Reverend Jackson" too, mocking the uppity reverend thinks for thinking he's so Im-poh-tent.

It's just all the most classic, vile form of minstrelsy, and to suggest that calling the president stupid is the same thing is to utterly ignore virtually all of American history.

Posted by: Hundred-Dollar Bill
Date: April 27, 2007 8:08 PM

chas, your breath smells like shit, bro. i guess that's because you're rotten inside.

rush is a gross, gross, man-thing. whatever he is. dregs. dregs of humanity with a mic.

Posted by: nezua
Date: April 27, 2007 8:17 PM

This is Limbaugh's way of pushing the envelope. He's daring anyone to call him out.

Limbaugh (and Michael Wiener, and Bill O'Reilly are very much the same) *wants* someone -- anyone -- to give him the opportunity to vomit more bile, more hate, more inarticulate bleating noise into a world that so badly needs its opposite.

The psychology of the race-baiter and the mysoginist and the homophobe is in many ways like that of the addict -- just one more continuation of self-destructive behavior. It's no stretch to concieve of the inner lives of these people as predictably dark and convoluted -- read McKris' complaint against O'Reilly; the personal, gutter level of Weiner's assaults are all too predicatble; and, in his own way, so are Limbaugh's.

The difference between the addict who breaks into your car and steals your radio, and the one who keeps pushing his tiny manhood in the face of our culture, is that you can pay for the new window and replace the radio. These damaged and coddled "personalities" stain our entire culture.

American culture is changing, slowly. The free ride of the Wingnut public vomatorium which Limbaugh and his ilk depend on is starting to come to an end. Can you feel it? I think *he* can -- and so can the rest of them.

Look at Fox's "News" numbers plummeting. Advertisers vote with their dollars, once they believe there's more of a buck in pushing tolerance and social responsibility than the personality disorders of these people.

Depend on Limbaugh and the rest to become even more outrageous, more extreme, in order to desperately keep the spotlight trained on them just a little bit longer. In their minds, their public and private identities are inextricably mixed, and without the limelight, they're nothing.

Posted by: Austin Cooper
Date: April 27, 2007 8:27 PM

Last time I heard, Limbaugh was still on Armed Forces Radio. Free speech? Fine, even though he's disgusting in so many ways.

The thing is, Limbaugh does not belong on government-sponsored media. I have no problem trying to get him thrown off over this.

Posted by: Dave Adams
Date: April 27, 2007 8:38 PM

Making fun of Al Sharpton is neither racist nor an insult to all black people.

Posted by: USA Patriot
Date: April 27, 2007 9:17 PM

For quite awhile now, I've thought someone like the Palm Beach DA should investigate Rush Limbaugh's Florida "charity", the Sunrise Foundation, Inc.- EIN# 770600158. I linked to the Sunrise Foundation's 2003 990 filed with the IRS below.

In 2003, Limbaugh's oxycontin addiction came to light. Also in 2003, Limbaugh's Sunrise Foundation paid odd sums of money to various individuals in the Palm Beach area for no apparent reason. For example, Limbaugh's Foundation paid $17,363.67 to Juan Erazo of West Palm Beach.

Are these payments related to Limbaugh's drug addiction? Were the payments for illegal drugs or were the payments "hush money"?

The other question I have about Rush Limbaugh is about how much money the Defense Department pays to air the Rush Limbaugh Show on the defense radio network. Limbaugh doesn't work for free, that's for sure.

We already know that Limbaugh, a millionaire many times over, refuses to donate premium access to his website, valued at $55 annually, to members of the military fighting in the Iraq War. Limbaugh, the cheap fuck, wants his listeners to pay the $55.

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 27, 2007 9:22 PM

In typical left-wing fashion, "Mrs. Panstreppen" wants to donate someone else's 55 bucks rather than her own. Talk is cheap, pony up. The troops will thank you.

Posted by: USA Patriot
Date: April 27, 2007 9:56 PM

LOL at the moonbat witch hunt..... let me know how that works out. I bet most of you got beat up in school. Get. A. Life.

Posted by: Kat
Date: April 27, 2007 10:47 PM

i aint in no ways tired... i come to faaaaar to turn back naaaaaow.

you know what is lower than Rush goofing Sharpton and Jackson?

all those dems that went to the Sharpton meeting and pandered.

Woman, behold thy democratic party.

Posted by: jc chasezbian
Date: April 27, 2007 10:48 PM

"Moreover, unlike Rush, Imus wasn't very funny."

THAT is funny. Rush hires some creativity for skits that may be amusing but his personal humor doen't extend much past mispronouncing people's names and making fun of people from behind his billion watt phallic microphone.

you may find the recent post on huffington - why conservatives aren't funny - funny

Posted by: ard
Date: April 27, 2007 10:51 PM

Get lost. Like I'm going to give Rush Limbaugh $55 so a soldier in Iraq can become a Dittohead. From what I hear, the troops already are forced to listen to Rush Limbaugh repeat himself over and over for three hours daily Monday -Friday.

You skipped over the salient point that Rush Limbaugh probably is profiting handsomely from the Iraq War and, as such, has every reason to support it from a financial standpoint. But then again, war profiteering is de rigeur on the right.

How much do you think Rush Limbaugh rakes in from the US taxpayers annually so the troops can listen to him blather on for three hours every weekday? $10 million, $20 million or maybe even $30 million?

I tried to find out how much the Defense Department pays Limbaugh but that information seems to be a closely guarded secret. Why?

I agree, talk is cheap. The $55 to become a Dittohead is what traffic will bear and has no relationship to Rush Limbaugh's actual cost which would be what? The cost of an increase in bandwidth? In typical right-wing fashion, Rush Limbaugh expects to profit from someone else's charitable contribution.

I linked to my original TPM Cafe post about Rush and Marta Limbaugh's "charitable" foundation below if you want more info.



Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 27, 2007 10:57 PM

Advertisers did Imus in by withdrawing their support for him for his racist remarks. Advertisers write off their ads as a tax expense, which makes the govt a supporter of them as well as Mr. Imus. Imus acknowledged the mistake.
Folks like Flush operate on adverising dollars spent for "entertainment," which makes this govt a supporter of those who advertise on Rush, and Rush himself.
A properly framed legal argument ought to be able to flush them adn Rush off the air, but a wellplace terrist act would be quicker if anyone knew where he broadcast from. An secret, undisclosed place like where Cheney hangs with the other vampires.

Posted by: vox clamantis in red state
Date: April 27, 2007 11:05 PM

"You cant fire Rush he owns the show and is the major share holder partner in the syndication. The only way he can get fired is if he fires himself."

you can call the local sponsors of his show on the local station. and their management. that will make more of a difference- in the denver area try lumber liquidators, for instance

one thing to ask is how could a business use a guy who has been and is still wrong or lying about ALL the major issues of today -bush, iraq, global warming, to represent their products?

rush didn't get a 1/3 BIL $ contract for telling the truth. and he was a steal at that price since this bush disaster would not have been possible without the uncontested repetition possible only on talk radio- rove's most important medium.

the best way to fix this is to bring back some kind of Fairness Doctrine that will prevent further poisoning of our democracy by this total right wing monopolization of the public air waves.

Posted by: certainot
Date: April 27, 2007 11:08 PM

Oh.....rush limp ball...the drug ddict,i remember HIM...yeah, well, what can you expect from a DRUG ADDICT, he's got to make the money so he can support his HABIT. Let's all keep listening to him and commenting on him, so we can keep him supplied with his drug(s) of choice!!

Posted by: benji
Date: April 27, 2007 11:41 PM

Lib4 is absolutely correct. Rush is positioning himself as a martyr. Truly amazing how the party that derides our "victim" culture uses every opportunity to delve into paranoid fantasies that people are out to get them. But in this case, he's even made the pre-emptive argument that once "they" went after Imus, "they" will be coming after him next. This allows him to say truly disgusting things and then claim that those who think what he says is repugnant are really trying to silence him. It appears that this is backfiring on the big fat idiot (God bless Al Franken) because the employees working at the radio stations which air his garbage have had enough.

Posted by: Rich
Date: April 27, 2007 11:42 PM

Sadly, Rush isn't the problem. His listeners are.

Posted by: adgh
Date: April 28, 2007 12:25 AM

While such overtly racist insults have no place in the public airwaves, it would require a MASSIVE public complaint campaign against rushie's advertisers to stop it.

And why not add that rush was busted with illegal Viagra while returning from a country notorious for it's child sex trade.

The dots are begging to be connected!

Posted by: Grorge Silva
Date: April 28, 2007 1:35 AM

"Sadly, Rush isn't the problem. His listeners are."

unfortunately, in many parts of the country the GOP radio waves monopoly ensured there are few if any alternatives for the working American who wants to get some current events, sports, weather, etc. during work or commuting.

these large areas of the country where the only clear signals might give you a choice of rove's latest GOP talking points and excuses, country, top 40, more right wing blather, and religion are often refered to as RED STATES.

the listeners are the problem, but they are often a captive audience. unfortunately 20% + of Americans say they get their news from talk radio stations. that's bush's base.

Posted by: ard
Date: April 28, 2007 1:38 AM

No, comments about Rush Limbaugh should not be in the Horse's Mouth. Wrong end entirely.

Posted by: Prup (aka Jim Benton)
Date: April 28, 2007 1:43 AM

"Sorry -- making fun of a public figure is a lot more "in bounds" than calling the Rutgers team a bunch of "nappy headed hos".

As much as I detest Rush -- this seems merely like edgy political humor to me, and I'm sure we've seen similar from the left making fun of, say, southern white preachers and the like."
dc-resident

He intentionally directed this at a specific person so he could do these racist parodies and "get away" with it. I strongly suspect you know that, dc-resident. When and if someone complains to his bosses about this, that'll be his defense. I suspect you know that as well, dc-resident.

A good way to protest this crap is to keep making the point that taking precautions like directing his racism at one person, instead of explictly directing it at all of us (which is what he really wants to do) is COWARDLY. With any luck, telling him and his dittoheads over and over that he's a coward will goad him into not directiing this stuff at a specific, easy to critize person. That's another thing. He avoids a lot of criticism by choosing Sharpton to parody. Again, that's cowardly, and he's a coward for doing it.

Posted by: Plantsman1
Date: April 28, 2007 3:39 AM

"LOL, Rush wins again!! He already explained that this isn't racist and that it would be taken out of context, and then the st00pit libZ fall for it and call it "racist." ROTFL. What about Robert "Grand Master" Byrd!?!"

Legalize

Clever? or cowardly? Rush Limbaugh can be taken down, and I'm looking forward to the howls of indignation from people like you when it happens. This is gonna be a LOT more fun than taking Imus down. But in the meantime...keep smirking that right wing smirk.

Posted by: Plantsman1
Date: April 28, 2007 3:58 AM

Al Sharpton has a history of inciting murder with his incendiary comments over the years. Do some research! Imus and Limbaugh got nothing on this guy. When is Rev. Al going to apologize, or when is anyone going to demand it, for the innocent lives he has disrupted and ruined? Racism is not a unique disorder in "whites" only. I don't care what color his skin is; this man is a social menance that destroys any hope of racial harmony. And what church does he preach at? Is he even in a church on Sunday?

Posted by: Jim
Date: April 28, 2007 4:45 AM

Racism is overblown anyway. So what if he is a racist. They have rights too. If his listeners want to hear that stuff it's their business and if others don't it's theirs.

Grow up. Stop crying. More important things to get worked up over.

Posted by: Mearsheimer
Date: April 28, 2007 7:46 AM

If you have listened to Limbaugh over the years, you know he has no understanding of the civil rights movement and the history of the civil rights movement. Oh well, you don't have to know anything to be successful in this country. Just play to the lowest common denominator or whatever is in the moment.

Posted by: Texlib
Date: April 28, 2007 10:58 AM

whether rush stays or goes i am glad that whites and blacks are together in saying we can change for the better. i look at some message boards and am disheartened as a black person. many of the comments posted here make me a proud american

Posted by: mike
Date: April 28, 2007 11:13 AM

It would be impossible to parody Sharpton, who is a rich source for material, be honest, without "sounding black." So what's really being proposed here by Limbaugh's critics is that black public figures be off limits to parody. That's ridiculous; that could be considered racist itself - a double standard for white vs. black public figures. No one has called Shanklin's impersonations of impeached former President Bill Clinton an insult to all white people.

But what's really going on is authoritarians on the left (redundant, I know) want to silence someone they disagree with. It's that simple - an attempt to silence dissent.

Posted by: USA Patrriot
Date: April 28, 2007 12:20 PM

No, it's not a free speech issue. Paid speech is not the same as free speech. All of us have free speech, but being paid for our speech (like Limbaugh is) is a priviledge that can be revoked at any time by those who hold the purse strings.

Posted by: Hype-Jersey
Date: April 28, 2007 12:28 PM

If enough people are put off by Rush, they can go to the advertisers and get him canned like they did imus. Once in a great while I listen to Rush when I am driving a long distance in my car. This stuff that Imus did and Rush does is all shtick. I don't take it seriously. Conservatives are a lot more successful with these types of radio shows for some reason. And they pander to the themes that many people resonate with. I think a conservative is someone who accepts hereditary prejudices without thought. Conservatives were slow to accept equal rights. It took liberals like Kennedy and Johnson to change things. Now, they have homosexuals to pick on. They are rather free with the words queer and faggot. It just shows you that behind closed doors, they are still ranting about the nig*ers and the sp*cs. Religions, which should be outlawed, are at the crux of most of the world’s problems. Conservatives want to have religion in schools, Ten Commandments in the court house and in fact we are fighting our own jihad in Iraq. Our president sees himself as a key player in his rendition of the "end times".
We are living in a politically correct, uptight, overly sensitive culture. Left or right though, both sides are bloated and self-seeking with little regard for anything but their own self interest. The democratic majority in congress is not an improvement because the status quo remains the same. i.e., the lobbyists who are representatives of corporate America, the true masters.
ps. I think Rush is a big, fat, doped-up, half deaf cunt.

Posted by: al ferriulo
Date: April 28, 2007 12:51 PM

Ironic how the networks pulled the plug on Imus, but not on Limbaugh hmm... Guess Limbaugh, a spokesperson for the RNC is teflon coated.

A racial attack is a racial attack whether pointed at innocent college players or politicians. If Limbag can attack a politicians race what about his religion, his family etc.

Posted by: West Coaster
Date: April 28, 2007 1:56 PM

i thought it was hilarious and audacious and demonstrated such a naked rascism that it has to be at least partly ironical.

the respeck one is funny too. the sad fact is the guy writing these tunes is super talented.

my personal favorite is the parody of Rush singing I've got friends with white faces to the tune of Garth Brooks friends in low places.

with that sad the man makes his living degrading the lowest common denominator of close minded people looking for blowhard to rally them and give them a sense of purpose. They are dittoheads because they mindlessly repeat whatever he says and he entertains them with vicious mockery of those who do in fact have more their best interests at heart than the plutocracy currently running the show.

limbaugh should only lose his job once he's lost his audience or advertisers.

there's nothing wrong with pressuring his advertisers not to support him.

but, and this goes for Imus too, he shouldn't be fired.

think of this stuff as the canary in the cage. as long as there is an audience for this type of hate speech it is better to have it out in the open so that when it becomes particularly egregious, as it has here, it can be held up to public ridicule and promptly ignored back in the swamp.

the only way to reach the swamp, that part of the audience that responds to pedagogues like Fat Bastard, is to roll up your sleeves and do something to make these people feel important again in a positive way. limbaugh is a leech, but he fills some void in their life... poor sad ignoramuses that most DittoHeads are.

Rush is daring us to make him a martyr.

Ignore the fat gas bag and go after his advertisers.

Just remember the void left behind will need to be filled if Rush goes and the audience remains.

Time to drain the swamp.

Posted by: Garth
Date: April 28, 2007 2:15 PM

2busy2care stated"

"So all the jokes about Quayle's spelling issues, or Bush's lack of intellect, are an assault on all whites and all Republicans?"

I don't think the analogy is at all the same. Quale and Bush are not being assigned a comical white racial type and then being ridiculed along with the whole white race. They are bing made fun of for their own words much as any public figure is (Sharpton and Jackson included). Sharpton never mispelled respect. The idea is that blacks in general are to stuped to spell. In Quales case the spelling issues were his and genuine. Same for Bush's comical slips.


Richard

Posted by: rik
Date: April 28, 2007 2:35 PM

USA Patrriot@April 28, 2007 12:20 PM

Not me. I don't want to silence Rush Limbaugh. i just want to know how much the Defense Department pays him to air his show on the defense radio network. The DoD is spending my tax dollars to finance a broadcaster who operates as a right wing shill under the guise of being an entertainer.

I'd like a public discussion about whether the DoD provides balanced and fair broadcasting to the troops stuck in Iraq and Afganistan and everywhere else in the world. Who is the left's equivalent of Rush Limbaugh on the defense radio network?

You may detest former President Bill Clinton and that is your right. But both Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity called former President Bill Clinton a "rapist" on the radio in the same week in August 2005 and I don't want my tax dollars spent that way.

Let's discuss my objections openly. USA Patriot, will you join me in calling on the Department of Defense to disclose how much it pays to air the Rush Limbaugh Show?

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 2:36 PM

Cancel my last comment. Acording to Armed Forces Network online, Limbaugh provides the show free of charge, to the armed forces (link below).

From FAQs:

Q: Why do you continue to air the Rush Limbaugh program?

A: Popularity with American listeners plays an important part in determining what’s on American Forces Network radio. Mr. Limbaugh’s show continues to be the number one nationally distributed radio program in the United States, which he provides at no cost to us or the American taxpayer. In that we reflect American radio, we include Mr. Limbaugh’s program in our schedule. We do not censor content and we do not seek to protect our overseas Department of Defense audience from hearing views with which they may disagree. Our mission is to offer program choices, which include four political talk shows (i.e. one hour of the Rush Limbaugh show, one hour of the Ed Schultz show, one hour of the Sean Hannity show and one hour of the Al Franken show). To review the balance we strive to achieve via the totality of our radio and TV schedules, please visit http://www.myafn.net.


Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 2:45 PM

BTW, who is Ed Schultz and who took Al Franken's spot on the Armed Forces Network?

May I suggest the DoD broadcast the Randi Rhodes and Rachel Maddow shows? Why are only men broadcasting their political views on the AFN?

Randi Rhodes, unlike Rush Limbaugh, served in the military.

I don't want to hear any objection to Rachel Maddow's show because she is gay. Maddow is intelligent and well-spoken and that is what counts.

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 2:53 PM

Wait a sec. The Armed Forces Network only said that Rush Limbaugh provides his show to the military for free, not everybody else.

Are American taxpayers paying Sean Hannity to tell the troops that a former president of the United States, Bill Clinton, is a "rapist"? Limbaugh, at least, calls Clinton a rapist at no cost to the taxpayers.

Clinton is not a rapist, period. To be fair, the AFN needs to balance the Clinton rapist charge with a Bush murder charge.

If my taxes go to Sean Hannity so he can call Bill Clinton a rapist on the Armed Forces network, I demand that someone on the left be given equal time to charge George W. Bush with crimes he did not commit.

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 3:14 PM

Randi Rhodes is an America-hating lunatic. The troops in the field would have no interest in hearing her hateful bile at all.

Based on the failure of Air (anti)America Radio, not many others want to hear that endless stream of bile either.

By the way, Juanita Broadrick credibly accused Clinton of raping her. You can't blame Hannity or Limbaugh for reporting that fact.


Posted by: USA Patriot
Date: April 28, 2007 5:18 PM

The troops have an interest in hearing Ed Schultz? Who the hell is Ed Schultz? Again Randi Rhodes is an Air Force veteran who served her country unlike Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

But then again, military service means shit to the right wing. One night, I hear Mary Matalin tell Laura Ingram on Ingram's show that military service is irrelevant if you are a candidate for political office.

I lost track of all of the charges against Bill Clinton in the '90s. Refresh my memory. When did Bill Clinton "rape" Juanita Broderick? Did Juanita Broderick go to the police when Bill Clinton "raped" her? Why not? How did Broderick's story about Bill Clinton "raping" her became public?

Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh deeply believe deeply that Bill Clinton should be in prison for many years for "raping" Juanita Brodierick. I assume that President Bush, Vice-President Cheney and former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld also believe deeply that Bill Clinton should be in prison for many years for "raping" Juanita Broderick.

Why in the world does the president's father, George H. W. Bush, appear publicly with a "rapist"?

Me, I'm not Bill Clinton's biggest fan but I know he likes women and women like him. He never had to rape anyone in his life. And that goes for Juanita Broderick.

I think I'll track down Juanita Broderick and see if her lifestyle has taken an upswing since she accused Bill Clinton of "raping" her. We all know now that a drunken billionaire who couldn't keep his own two marriages together financed the Paula Jones case.


Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 5:56 PM

Oops! Broaddrick, not Broderick or Broadrick.

Posted by: Mrs P
Date: April 28, 2007 6:06 PM

Here's a bit of historical trivia - Juanita Broaddrick, DOB 12/13/42, claims that Bill Clinton "raped" her in April 1978. In November 1972, Brownwood Manor, the AR nursing home owned by Broaddrick, became eligible to participate in the Medicare and/or Medicaid programs (link below).

I wonder if one had to do with the other.

I am going to post two records I found concerning Juanita Broaddrick and Brownwood Manor. I wonder who Mary Elizabeth Smith is. I don't think Boraddrick is married. It would be a hoot if she is a lesbian.

#1
ARKANSAS SECRETARY OF STATE, UCC RECORD

Debtors: BROADDRICK, JUANITA MARIE; BROWNWOOD MANOR, INC.; SMITH, MARY ELIZABETH

Debtor Address:
BROADDRICK, JUANITA MARIE
415 EAST NORTHBROOK
VAN BUREN, AR 72956

BROWNWOOD MANOR, INC.
1404 NORTH 28TH
VAN BUREN, AR 72956

DUNS: 067674705

SMITH, MARY ELIZABETH
1923 TELURIDE DR
VAN BUREN, AR 72956

Secured Parties:
BANK OF THE OZARKS

Secured Party Address:
BANK OF THE OZARKS
P O BOX 196
OZARK, AR 72949

DUNS: 949115406

Filing Type: INITIAL FILING

Filing Date: 11/22/2004

Expiration Date: 11/22/2009

Filing Number: 51267710362

Filing Office:
SECRETARY OF STATE/UCC DIVISION 256 STATE CAPITOL
LITTLE ROCK, AR 72201

Collateral: ACCOUNT(S) AND PROCEEDS; CHATTEL PAPER AND PROCEEDS; GENERALINTANGIBLE(S) AND PROCEEDS; INVENTORY AND PROCEEDS; EQUIPMENT AND PROCEEDS;MACHINERY AND PROCEEDS

#2
ARKANSAS SECRETARY OF STATE, UCC RECORD

Debtors: BROADDRICK JUANITA

Debtor Address:
BROADDRICK JUANITA
1404 NORTH 28TH STREET
VAN BUREN, AR 72956

Secured Parties: VINSON, CHRIS .
Secured Party Address:
VINSON, CHRIS .
P.O. BOX 1228
VAN BUREN, AR 72956

Filing Type: INITIAL FILING

Filing Date: 10/27/2005

Expiration Date: 10/27/2010

Filing Number: 61278020602

Filing Office:
SECRETARY OF STATE/UCC DIVISION 256 STATE CAPITOL
LITTLE ROCK, AR 72201

Collateral: NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 6:52 PM

They are just PIGS on the radio, just as George Orwell wrote about. Can't you just picture a big fat PIG behind the golden microphone?

Posted by: animal farm
Date: April 28, 2007 6:54 PM

Oops! Huge typo in my last post.

Brownwood Manor data (link below):

Participation date (The date a facility is first approved to provide Medicare and/or Medicaid services): Nov 1978

Broaddrick claims that Bill Clinton "raped" her in April 1978. In November 1978, Broadrick's nuring home, Brownwood Manor, is approved to provide Medicare/Medicaid services.

Did Bill Clinton help Brownwood Manor become an approved facility after he "raped" Juanita Broaddrick? If so, why?

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 6:58 PM

I'm confused. Brownwood Manor falls under two categories, according to Hospital-Data.com:

#1
http://www.hospital-data.com/hospitals/BROWNWOOD-MANOR-INC-VAN-BUREN.html

BROWNWOOD MANOR INC
1404 N 28TH STREET
VAN BUREN, AR 72956

LONG TERM NURSING FACILITIES

Participation date (The date a facility is first approved to provide Medicare and/or Medicaid services): Nov 1978

#2
http://www.hospital-data.com/hospitals/BROWNWOOD-MANOR--INC.-VAN-BUREN.html

BROWNWOOD MANOR INC.
1404 NORTH 28TH STREET
VAN BUREN, AR 72956

RELIGIOUS NONMEDICAL HEALTH CARE INSTITUTIONS SNF/NF (DISTINCT PART)

Participation date (The date a facility is first approved to provide Medicare and/or Medicaid services): Feb 1995

The Google link is pasted below.

I am curious about the religuous aspect of Brownwood manor. Did Juanita Broaddrick see the light in the '90s?

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 7:27 PM

FYI:

US Business Directory

BROWNWOOD MANOR INC
1404 N 28TH ST
VAN BUREN, AR 72956-2999
UNITED STATES

TEL: 479-474-8021

FAX: 479-471-8570

ABI-NO: 158479477

COUNTY: 05033

CRAWFORD POPULATION: 1 - 24,999

AA CARRIER-CODE: C003

PRI-SIC: 805901
REST HOMES

2ND-SIC: 805902
CONVALESCENT HOMES

LOC-SALES: 5,000,000 - 9,999,999

EE LOC-EMPLOYEES: 101

PAR-EMPLOYEES: UNKNOWN

BUSINESS-ORG: FIRM

EXECUTIVES:
JUANITA BROADDRICK, OWNER
JUANITA BROADDRICK, VP FINANCE
JEANIE STEVENS, VP HUMAN RESOURCES SILVIA HICKY, VP MARKETING
JUANITA BROADDRICK, PURCHASING AGENT

AD-SIZE: IN-COLUMN SPACE AD

CREDIT: VERY GOOD

LANGUAGE: ENGLISH

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 7:34 PM

Anybody giggle at the Coni Rice/ Aunt Jemima cartoons? Anybody think Codi isn't 'really black' or is 'white on the inside'?

Posted by: chemlite
Date: April 28, 2007 8:08 PM

How about defending the cartoonist's '1st ammendment rights'?

Posted by:
Date: April 28, 2007 8:09 PM

Just be honest with yourself lefties. You want Limbaugh gone because he is the most effective communicator in the histroy of radio. The easiest way to do this is to throw the race card up. I really thought we had moved past this and cannnot believe the discredited sharpton or the shakedown artist Jesse jackson would be listened to but this just shows how out of touch the msm is with americans who think the apology by Imus was enough.This type of gotcha garbage by groups like the Soros's (media matters) sit around waiting for anything they can put their hands on to throw the race card. This smacks of the liberals favorite line mccarthyism. Let's call him a racist and we can remove him.I am so tired of this.

Posted by: valley
Date: April 28, 2007 8:13 PM

Why even give extra bandwidth to Rush? He is scum, a leech, a pathetic drugger who makes his living by lying and whining and spewing hate.

For shame. Don't give him the attention he so sorely craves.

Posted by: Ennealogic
Date: April 28, 2007 8:54 PM

valley@April 28, 2007 08:13 PM - I don't want Rush Limbaugh gone. I agree that he was one of the most effective communicators in radio history and, at one time, the Rush Limbaugh Show was funny even if you didn't agree with Limbaugh.

Do you listen to the show now? When I worked for a big defense contractor between 2004 and 2005, I used to listen to Limbaugh and Hannity on the job to keep up with what the right wing was saying. That's when I heard both Limbaugh and Hannity call Clinton a "rapist" in the same week - August '05.

Limbaugh has dumbed down his show so much that it is almost impossible for anyone with average intelligence to listen to it for three hours. Maybe one hour is original material and the other two are variations on what was said in the first hour. The call-ins are obviously staged.

In my opinion, the right wing has boxed itself in by relying so heavily on Limbaugh. Limbaugh's format does not permit any criticism of the Bush administration or the GOP at all and that's a hard position to maintain in the current political climate.

I have suspected for a couple of years that Limbaugh's ratings are inflated. One reason to jack up his ratings is to suppress a nationwide panic in the radio industry. Another reason is to prop up the GOP and the White House.

I haven't listened to Limbaugh lately but one way to tell if a show is in trouble is to pay attention to the quality of the advertisers. LOL - If you hear a lot of ads for the Forex, gold and other investment scams, the show is in trouble.

Re Al Sharpton - I have no idea why the Democrats and mainstream media take the Reverend Al seriously. He has never apologized or even bothered to explain his dsigraceful conduct in the Tawana Brawley case.

Ever since I saw a photo of Reverend Al arm in arm with Ralph Nader at a rally in Harlem in 2000, I considered Sharpton to be a traitor to the Democratic Party and I don't know why the big Democrats tolerate him.

If you watched Coretta Scott King's funeral, you got a pretty good idea about how Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are viewed by prominent black people. Sharpton and Jackson did not have front row seats and I don't think either of them spoke.

I don't know many black people but the ones I have spoken to don't think very much of Sharpton and Jackson. In fact, they have complained about a dearth of black leaders.

But if members of the media persists in turning to Sharpton and Jackson when they need a spokesperson for the black community, what are you going to do? But why the black community tolerates this nonsense is beyond me.

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 9:57 PM

USA Patriot@April 28, 2007 05:18 PM

I read that Air America was badly mismanaged in that whoever was running it knew nothing about the radio business and loaded the payroll with do-nothing execs. Air America sounded so badly mismanaged, I wondered whether it was incompetence or sabotage.

Posted by: Mrs P
Date: April 28, 2007 10:20 PM

I'm reading an excerpt about the "rape" of Juanita Broaddrick from a book, "Their Lives: The Women Targeted by the Clinton Machine", by Candice E. Jackson that I found on the WorldNetDaily website (link below).

If Hillary Clinton insists on running for president, we are all going to be forced to listen to this crap over and over and over once again (Thanks ever so much, Bill and Hillary.). We might as well examine the facts beforehand, as distasteful as the task is, and work out some sort of response.

From Jackson's book:

"Broaddrick filed a lawsuit against Clinton in the summer of 1999 to obtain documents the White House may have gathered about her, claiming its refusal to accede to her demand for such documents violated the Privacy Act. The case was dismissed in 2001. In the middle of that lawsuit, Broaddrick's nursing-home business found itself audited by the IRS for the first time in its 30 years of existence. "I do not believe this was coincidence," Broaddrick declared, "I do not think our number just came up."

The Democrats need to be 110% certain that Clinton did not sic the IRS on Broaddrick. If he did, Hillary Clinton cannot be president. End of story. Not open to further discussion or debate.

I am reading about Broaddrick's case in Lexis-Nexis and I don't see how Broaddrick could have filed her case in the summer of 1999.

From L-N:

"I. BACKGROUND

On October 12, 1999, Broaddrick submitted a written request to the EOP pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act ("FOIA"), 5 U.S.C. § 552, and the Privacy Act, 5 U.S.C. § 552a, for any documents that refer or relate to Juanita Broaddrick. The White House Office, of which the Office of Counsel to the President is a part, n1 responded on October 27, 1999, denying Broaddrick's request on the grounds that the "President's immediate personal staff and units in the Executive Office of the President whose sole function is to advise and assist the President are not included within the term 'agency' under the FOIA and the Privacy Act." Compl. at Ex. 2. The White House Office also noted that the FOIA and the Privacy Act do not establish a statutory right to records Broaddrick seeks from the EOP, if such records exist. This suit followed."

The earliest Broaddrick could have filed her case was on 10/28/99. The case was dismissed on 3/27/01.

The IRS would have had to audit Broaddrick's business during the 14-month period between 11/99 and 3/01 if Broaddrick was indeed audited. On the face of it, the timing of the IRS audit looks suspicious.

I don't know what committee in Congress is authorized to look into who authorized an IRS audit of Broaddrick's business but I don't think it would be difficult to track down the answer.

You would want to know how, why and when Broaddrick's business was selected to be audited. The answer to why can be provided by Juanita Broaddrick. All she has to do is hand over her letter from the IRS. The IRS should be able to answer the other two questions.

I am very curious as to how hard Broaddrick was pressed by the IRS and the outcome of the audit.

If the IRS audit was set up by the Clinton administration, what did the Clinton administration expect to get out of it for taking such a big risk? Using the IRS to harass people is a big no-no and supposedly the practice ended when the Nixon administration ended.

Juanita Broaddrick's counsel in her WH lawsuit, btw, was Paul J. Orfanedes, KLAYMAN & ASSOCIATES, PC, and Larry Elliot Klayman, JUDICIAL WATCH, INCORPORATED, Washington, DC.

Larry Elliot Klayman also represented Broaddrick in her appeal which she lost in May 2002.

Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 28, 2007 11:32 PM

"Just be honest with yourself lefties ... he is the most effective communicator in the histroy of radio... the discredited sharpton or the shakedown artist Jesse jackson ... like the Soros's (media matters) ... the liberals favorite line mccarthyism."

I'm curious -- do misspellings, lack of punctuation, or the capitalization of the names of persons one attacks increase the likelihood that one's argument will be taken seriously? I'd really like to know.

Or, is the style proof that one is closer to "the common man", and therefore must have a more valid point of view than persons who *can* express themselves -- and who must be overeducated leftist intellectuals? Or, are the writers fabricatring what they're convinced is how "honest working people" communicate? (Hint: Don't read any Eric Hoffer, and *definitely* not any Studs Terkel.)

I'm not much concerned whether someone spouts crap or not -- it's a free country (at present); they can spout away. But if crap is all the Right has to bring to the debate, some of its followers should read those of their own ilk who *can* express themselves (after a fashion) and take a shot at emulating them.

I warn you, though: Their arguments are crap, too.

Posted by: Austin Cooper
Date: April 29, 2007 4:01 AM

My actual critisiscm of Imus was that his words promoted the stereotypes which benefited the general cultural ethics that lead to the criminalzation to survivors of sexual abuse and the subsequent justification of the sexual predator. Tom Lygkus (not sure of the spelling) is actually far greater threat in this regard.

Posted by: Kozzmo
Date: April 29, 2007 5:22 AM

I made the same argument against Rush Limbaugh during the Foley scandal...

http://faithfuldemocrats.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=321&Itemid=44

Posted by: Kozzmo
Date: April 29, 2007 6:01 AM

We have, indeed, become rather thin-skinned in this politically correct society, however artificial, fomented by an increasing and disturbing capitulation to radical left-wing ideology! Radical right-wing ideology is just as dangerous, it just "feels" different, yet equally insane. Never mind the Imus's and Limbaugh's, folks. It's the Sharptons, in whatever form of race they appear in, that we must defend ourselves against; that is if we wish to remain a truly free society. May God continue to bless America!

Posted by: Jim
Date: April 29, 2007 6:31 AM

Is Rush still on drugs? I stopped listening to him right before we invaded Iraq because he called some of our veteren soldiers "commies". The drugs explained it back then...what explains it now?

Posted by: bheart
Date: April 29, 2007 8:16 AM

I want to change something I wrote @April 28, 2007 05:56 PM. Change "He never had to rape anyone in his life." to "He never raped anyone in his life."

Have the big Dems asked themselves what the Clintons have done in the last six years to fix the Broaddrick rape story? They've done nothing as far as I know.

The way I see it, the GOP will trot out Juanita Broaddrick and her tale of being brutally raped by Bill Clinton after Hillary Clinton is nominated. The point will be to get Bill Clinton to publicly respond to Broaddrick's charges so as to remind the voters of the would-be First Lady's numerous marital infidelities.

I don't know about anyone else but I am already suffering from Clinton fatigue and the prospect of having to listen to endless stories about Bill Clinton's greasy little sex life is depressing.

BTW, the big Dems better be damned sure that Bill Clinton didn't have sex with anyone on his six-day trip to Africa that he took a few years ago. His wife did not accompany him on the trip.

Why anyone with half a brain in the Democratic Party thinks running Hillary Clinton for president is a good idea is beyond me.

Bill Clinton has to publicly tell his story of his sexual affair with Juanita Broaddrick and Bill Clinton has to publicly swear that he has nothad extramrital sex since he left office (If he has, the GOP knows about it.). But Bill Clinton can't be trusted to tell the truth about his sex life.

Say if the Clinton campaign was derailed by the revelation that Clinton did have sex on his trip to Africa and the Dems lose the presidency. How in the world could Bill and Hillary Clinton make it up to us? Committing hari-kari comes to my mind.

Do the Democrats really want an '08 presidential candidate whose husband has to publicly swear that he has not had sex with anyone but his wife since he last had sex with a White House intern?

My stomach is in knots just thinking about what is in store for the Dems if Hillary Clintons runs.


Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon
Date: April 29, 2007 9:55 AM

Black people are dying in Iraq, and this motherfucker needs his white ass kicked.

Posted by: freder421
Date: April 29, 2007 10:37 AM

Lefties have a real problem with free speech and it startson college campuses where the academic freedom of prof's spewing untruths must be protected but let David Horowitz come and speak and he must be shouted down for fear that he may be heard. Why must the left be so intolerant to ideas other than their own. The left has a proven track record of failed public policies from education to other government largess that is creeping up (medicare, social security)and when we look to new ideas the left has no ideas.We can never try a markt based approach because it may work. We can never have school vouchers because they may work. We can never allow anyone part of the 14% in payroll deductions with social security because it may work. We need to work on getting everyone in this country medical insurance but we should not throw everything out the window thatworks. We know that government is the least efficient way to get things done because expensive government employee positions are created when we could send the money to the private sector and get things done more efficiently. Please give me some new ideas. I am open to nany ideas that can be shown to work but we need bench marks on these programs that the left likes to set up and if they fail we need to adjust musch like the left is calling for us to do in Iraq. Domestic benchmarks and eliminate programs that are shown to be ineffective. This may be idealistic but we need to strive for better than the left not open to any market based ideas and the right should sign on to some (if they had any)and please stop playing the politics of black vs white, rich vs poor that game is so tired. I don't think you are bad people for having big government ideas and please don't think I am evil becase I come from the school of economic theory of Milton Freidman. Listen to Bill Bennent in the morning he is excellent and does not try to antagonize anyone but has open discourse. I know he gambles so we don't need to get that cheap shot in. Please give me some ideas? I want to debate concepts not wether someone should be fired for making comments. The gotcha culture has to stop on both sides it is so tiring.

Posted by: valley
Date: April 29, 2007 1:08 PM

I think there are many people confused about what free speech means. Free speech is just about undue government influence or punishment of unprotected speech conduct. Things like fighting words, threats and obscenity aren't protected by the First Amendment and the First Amendment doesn't bar private parties from censoring or limiting speech. So, it would be problematic for the government to shut down Rush or Imus for protected (although unpleasant) speech conduct but perfectly o.k. for radio stations, sponsors and TV stations to punish them for their speech.

Everyone has known that Rush is an idiot for ages. This latest thing doesn't surprise me in the least. But it does sadden me that such sentiments can find mainstream outlets nowadays and that black politicians still have to contend with this. But the right wing is notorious for the vitriolic, sophomoric and uncalled for rhetoric--whether it is pill-popping Rush or crazy Ann Coulter.

Posted by: Candace M.
Date: April 29, 2007 2:12 PM

I'm sorry, but I am absolutely offended. I don't know if America knows it, but black people consider the word "Negro" to be very offensive. And for a drug addict to make fun of someone for being anything is astonishing. If it were up to me, I would have went after Rush before Imus any day.

Posted by: Nakia
Date: April 29, 2007 2:13 PM

Oops. There was a mistake there. I meant "protected speech conduct" not "unprotected speech conduct."

Posted by: Candace M.
Date: April 29, 2007 2:24 PM

It is always humorous to see the people talk of misspellings and proper grammar are always the one's who argue with hyperbole such as moron, idiat etc... The left is vacant of any new ideas just ask Chuck Schumer. This I'm offended stuff has to cease. The anti-religious left heads are not asked to roll when they make insensitive comments on a daily basis.If Rush were truly a racist he would avoid the whole race issue and "you people" are simpletons on the left and do not see the larger point he is making by going down this road. Eventually it will take more tahn ant Bush rhetoric to get elected because there are no ideas on the left other than enlarging government's failed policies. Rush has the ability to analyze and entertain unlike any other and the cheap shots at someone becoming adicted to pain killers because of a back injury is not the equivalent of someone looking for drugs for entertainment.How mean spirited of you all.When you can't win on facts go to name calling that does not go to the larger point that you are trying to prove.I suppose you people like the hard driven bias of Keith Olbermann.A little over the top is he? I think he's still counting votes in Ohio! I think more dead democrats vote than republican but that's another issue. Rudy in 08. He will carry New York and the election is over! Done.

Posted by: valley
Date: April 29, 2007 3:14 PM

valley@April 29, 2007 01:08 PM

"We know that government is the least efficient way to get things done because expensive government employee positions are created when we could send the money to the private sector and get things done more efficiently."

Could you please provide some back up for this statement? From what I have been seeing, the the cost of using the private sector is more expensive than using government employees.

The best example is private security forces in Iraq vs US military.

Please comment on the loss of accountability when the government uses the private sector.

Posted by:
Date: April 30, 2007 8:38 AM

How I landed in this blog I have no idea...I was researching the value (if any) of a 1909 National Geographic Magazine. But since I did land here I read the above article and quite a few of the comments. There is no doubt on which side of the political spectrum the above commenters are on, and some of the writing reminded me of something. WHAT FOLLOWS IS A SERIOUS QUESTION ABOUT ACCURACY IN MEDIA!

Several years ago I was a newspaper reporter, staff writer, editorial writer, etc. for a newspaper in South Carolina. It was in a county where the majority of citizens were African- American (AfrAms). Most of my interviews were of school officials, county government office-holders, law enforcement personnel, businesspeople, etc., and probably at least half of my interviewees were AfrAms. I was also required to cover a certain town council's monthly meetings and write a story on what was said by citizens to council. Many, many times I recorded comments like these, and please don't take offense, "De mens come ta my house and tell me dey gon' turns off mah wadda! When I says 'No dey ain't...I gits mah pistol and dey runs off...an' dey calls de PO-lices on me! Wah-choo-alls gon' do 'bout it?" In typing my story, I would write, "Mrs. Stella Jones was emphatic when questioning Mayor Smith and councilmembers about an incident at her home last week, when city workers attempted to cut off water service to her home due to non-payment of bills." I would continue, "Those men [city workers] came to my house and told me they were going to disconnect my water," stated Mrs. Jones, "When I refused them entry, they called the police, who responded quickly. I was arrested! I want to know why?"

So, that's it. I made "Mrs. Jones" sound as if she were an English major in college. I'm not as "liberal" as most commenters above, but I take the "race" issue(s) very seriously. To most of you this may seem like a no-brainer, but it's always bothered me. If Al Sharpton says to a reporter, "I jes' want respeck for my peoples," would you quote him as having said, "I just want respect for my people!" Or, would you quote him as you heard him utter the words?

Now before you answer, consider how President Bush is ridiculed and QUOTED ACCURATELY when he makes a "slip-of-the-lip."

Okay, lay it on me! (Above not proof read.)

Paul (I'm gonna check back here.)

Posted by: Paul
Date: April 30, 2007 8:00 PM

Paul, the point isn't accuracy.

It's about using language in a way that reinforces negative racial stereotypes.

One of America's greatest graphic artists and editorial cartoonists was Winsor McKay (creator of 'Little Nemo'). Shamefully, among his first cartoons as a paid professional was the cover illustration for LIFE magazine in October of 1899. It showed two African-Americans, a man and a woman, talking.

They were charicatures -- the man dressed as an African might appear in the popular American mind circa 1899 (grass skirts; bones in the nose; a top hat and a canteen marked "US" around the neck). The woman is dressed like an Eskimo, and wearing a large necklace.

"Pardon me, miss Saffron," says the man, "But when you oberload you'se'f wif jewels you is disguisin' yo' nationality."

"How so, Missah Jackson?" she replies.

"You'll be took fo' a Jewess."

This wasn't even the bottom of the barrel for 1899, and it wasn't the only cartoon like this that McKay drew for LIFE -- but think about it: It was a major magazine **Cover**. And, it was a twofer! Mocked both Blacks *and* Jews!

And 106 years later, you'd say, thank God it couldn't happen again... except it did, and it does... and Limbaugh and Wiener and Coulter and [fill in the blank] continue to do it -- to African-Americans, Jews, Muslims, Arabs, Latinos...oh, and Caucasian Liberals...

It's a long list. They're equal-opportunity bigots; they'll bully and intimidate anyone they want to. Only, it just isn't a magazine cartoon. It's radio, it's immediate; it's posted on the 'Internets', potentially available to hundreds of thousands at a go.

Tell you what, Paul -- try this: Here's a comic strip of two white men talking. I'm making it up. They're dressed like golfers; polo shirts, slacks, shoes with tassels; short hair with some grey in it, clean-shaven, and a little paunchy.

One has a plaid sports coat on. There's a sign in the background ("Raliegh Golf Club: Members Only"), so we know we're in South Carolina.

"Milton, do you think you should wear such a prominent blazer?" says the man in shirtsleeves.

"What do you mean, Bob?" Milton says. "It's a plaid. If anything, I'll be taken for a Scotsman!"

"So long as no one at the club takes you for a Jew!" And they both laugh.

How do you feel about this cartoon, Paul? Do you know white men in South Carolina, members of country clubs, who talk and dress and *think* that way? This cartoon is disgusting, and inaccurate -- right? It makes a stereotype of two white males -- and by extension, says all white males are like this.

That means you, Paul, if you're white; and it means me. Do you think it's accurate?

Anything like this tells people who believe that all caucasians are born bigots, incapiable of facing the challenge of their learned racism, that they're right. It only reaffirms their own hatreds, and our culture or society doesn't walk away a winner from that.

Limbaugh's comments -- and anything like them -- reaffirm racial stereotypes for people who believe African-Americans are less than human. That Al Sharpton -- and Colin Powell, and Spike Lee, and Archbishop Desmond Tutu, and the three people I report to where I work, are somehow less than anyone who's white.

It reinforces a lie. Because it's a fat, privileged white man with a monkey on his back making the remarks. It's saying he's more human than the object of his mockery and ridicule; beyond being a basis for other kinds of oppression, what else is racism about?

People either get this, or they don't.

Posted by: Austin Cooper
Date: April 30, 2007 11:18 PM

Oh, incidentally -- My personal opinion is that Bush is a murderous, peevish dullard who drank his way through his education as a Legacy, failed in every adult endeavor he's ever attempted, and truly believes he, in his person, is a holy blessing to America and the planet.

When he speaks like an idiot -- an idiot -- he should be reported in word-for-word accuracy.

Only Bush talks like Bush; there's only one of him. When Limbaugh's mocked Sharpton's speech pattern, the implication was "Hey (wink, wink), *we* all know how 'They' are, right? Let's laugh at how 'They' talk."

Not the same thing. Not the same at all.

Posted by: Austin Cooper
Date: April 30, 2007 11:33 PM

Austin...thanks for the civil reply. Perhaps I was prejudging the people who frequent this web site, but you taking my question seriously and attempting to give me a straight answer...well, I didn't expect it, to tell you the truth. I do appreciate it. After re-reading my post, it is possible I didn't word my question exactly as I should have, but I'm old and tired...

Let me give you one more example of my "dis-honesty" as a news reporter (oh and hey...this wasn't exactly the New York Times...lol) The "Townville City Beautification Committee" is holding a Spring Cleanup and Planting Fest at the town hall and annex building on Saturday from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. All club members come, with your children, a rake or shovel, and your work gloves. The public is invited to come out and help clean up the town hall and refresh the landscaping with new flowers, etc.

I am assigned to cover the event.

My story in the next issue read, in part, "The turnout was gratifying last Saturday as enthusiastic Beautification Committee members and their children mowed, raked, shoveled, and picked up litter at the town hall. The crowd laughed and sang as they planted spring flowers...blah, blah, blah.

The truth...two "members" showed with a total of three children. But they were so nice, and so earnest, and worked so hard...and were so disappointed; and they were so appreciative that the newspaper showed up. I simply didn't have the heart to tell the truth in my story, which was that two adults (out of about 4800 population of that little town on the edge of the county) came and did all the work...the rest of you are lazy slugs who have no civic pride.

I am not a formally-trained journalist, so this job was my entry to a second career. I am a "thinker," and I thought a LOT about questions like "exact quotes"...and I need to say here that my example of a Black person's dialect in my first post...it was accurate. But I need to say also that I talked to many, MANY whites who were actually worse. I didn't quote them "accurately" either. It was equal opportunity language-slaughter there, and I made everybody look good. My publisher/editor was so pleased with my work that he never really tried to answer my questions about the ethics of making the "Beautification Club" look good in print. So I wrestled with this stuff by myself...and let me tell you...I wrote a LOT of "inaccurate" material, just so I wouldn't embarrass an individual or organization. Was I wrong? Hey, I feel good about what I did...but I suppose I was a bad "journalist."

And now, I'm going to sleep!

Paul

Posted by: Paul
Date: May 1, 2007 12:22 AM

Paul, I don't see that you did anything wrong in writing a story a particular way, as long as the outcome was positive.

The world has been essentially a tribal place since the Plains of Serengetti. We need to make it less tribal, more the human team.

I don't know how we'll get there, but I'm positive that Limbaugh isn't helping.

Posted by: Austin Cooper
Date: May 1, 2007 1:10 AM

Well, yes there's something to what you're saying here but... isn't this a free speech issue?

;-)

Posted by: Just Kidding
Date: May 1, 2007 9:50 AM

Actually, re: Limbaugh, et al., I think it's a hate speech issue.

Code = tooth, as in, "Sharper than a serpent's tooth is a whiny, tubby sociopath".

Posted by: Austin Cooper
Date: May 1, 2007 9:57 AM

Because it was Rush making fun of the left via an LA Times article, it is way out of line. If it were Jon Stewart making fun of the right via Fox News it would have been too dam funny!

Posted by: The Truth
Date: May 2, 2007 1:23 PM

You people make me fucking sick.

As a minority, let me say to all of you idiots calling for Rush Limbaugh's firing: Suck my dick, lick my shit, and once you're done with that, you can GET OVER IT. If my comments offend you, let them offend you, but don't you fucking stop me from saying it.

Don't pretend this isn't a free speech issue. You are, essentially, trying to effectively end someone's career for saying things that you don't like hearing. You sicken me. You hate other people's ideas, you can't stand them, you think they must be silenced. Regardless of how disgusting you find them, seriously look at yourself and consider the thing you're doing. I thought it was repulsive when the right did it to Ice-T back in '92 and I think it's repulsive coming from you people. Jesus... how dare anyone defend your pathetic sensibilities.

And this bullshit about parodying Al Sharpton using ugly racial stereotypes? Al Sharpton IS an ugly racial stereotype. That's a fact. Make fun of Bill Clinton or Bush without making fun of hicks, I dare you. Get of your own asses.

Furthermore, the Ehrenstein article which NO ONE seems to want to read is by a moron (hi, Dave) who sees it fit to attack not only Obama but all his supporters. Rush attacks Ehrenstein. His parody is objectively pro-Obama. He is sticking up for a black person, namely Obama. Yet somehow he's a racist. God, is everyone on the Internet a fucking moron?

Posted by: MBI
Date: May 2, 2007 3:59 PM

MBI...you are kind of wishy-washy...could you just come right out and say what you mean? (lol) By the way, yes...everybody on the Internet except you and me are nuts.

(And sometimes I wonder about me.)

Paul

Posted by: Paul
Date: May 2, 2007 8:54 PM

you guys on the left are up tight little pricks arnt you, liting up a bit ' you can alwas do as i and surf a great site like this, the girls are hot and you libs are a blast.

Posted by: mark
Date: May 4, 2007 11:51 PM

Like it's any worse than half the crap they play on regular radio. Get a clue.

Posted by: dave
Date: May 6, 2007 6:18 PM

Someone saw what they thought was a juicy story about Rush and have run with it before checking the facts. This is exactly what Rush refers to as the Drive-by Media. Hit it, True or not and run. Every bit of this parody came from print media, not Rush, he just put it in this form and put it out for public consumption. The Youtube video is not a Rush creation.

Posted by: Paul
Date: May 8, 2007 11:17 PM

It seems to me that you white men and black white men are all the same. You take what is not yours; destroy those who oppose your greed. You were not invited here, you came as Greeks to troy, to conquer. Go ahead and argue yourselves into another civil war. When your done, the rightful owners of this continent will deport all of you. The Great Spirit has told us that when it is time you will all leave, pretty much of your own accord.

CherokeeSam

Posted by: CherokeeSam
Date: May 9, 2007 11:43 PM

I really enjoyed reading at the top of this page, where idiots were spouting about something they knew nothing about. I was glad to see some common sense coming from some of the later posters.

1) This is a parody of Al Sharpton, not meant to make fun of Obama, Sharpton has refused to support Obama
2) It is performed by an African-American comedian/musician Paul Schenklin
3) Most of the lyrics are pulled from liberal news publications
4) On his show, Rush stopped the song after each lyric, described where it was from, and why it was used, and why it is not racist
5) Obama himself laughed off this song and did not take offense

That being said, this was mainly just an attempt to poke fun at Sharpton, not the African-American community. Also it is meant to make fun of liberal new publications for continuously bringing up the issue of Obama's "blackness". For instance there was an article discussing whether he is black enough to become president. Don't believe me, just type in "black enough obama" in google. For a group that focuses on tolerance and not having race be an issue, why should this even be a question. The man is running for president, I must have missed the part in the constitution about how black you have to be to become a black president. Ridiculous.


Do me a favor, do a little research or look into things before you start talking and look like idiots.

Posted by: Gym
Date: May 14, 2007 8:57 PM

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