Washington Post Columnist Smacks WaPo Editorial Page Over Pelosi Coverage
April 6, 2007 -- 4:02 PM EST // View Comments (4730) // Post a Comment

Oh, dear. Guess who's taking the Washington Post's editorial board to task for its editorial stance against Nancy Pelosi's trip to Syria? One of the Post's own Op ed columnists, Eugene Robinson.

Check out this appearance by Robinson on Hardball. Robinson defends Pelosi's trip to Syria. And he also says a couple things about his colleagues on the editorial page, which is edited by Fred Hiatt. He says this: "I`m pleased to be able to tell you I`m not a member of the editorial board."

And this: "They should tell us what they really think."

Pretty harsh stuff. Also note Matthews' smackdown of Hiatt and company. Check it out:

Here's a partial transcript:

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Why is "The Washington Post" trashing Nancy Pelosi for doing basically what Jim Baker and Lee Hamilton said to do, engage the neighborhood over there in the Middle East?

EUGENE ROBINSON, "WASHINGTON POST": I`m pleased to be able to tell you I`m not a member of the editorial board, and you know, I write my columns, they do their editorials. I can tell you where I stand on it, which is that...

MATTHEWS: First of all, let`s hear what your newspaper, the mother ship, has to say on this topic. This is the editorial page. I`m quoting from it. You know, this used to be a liberal newspaper, "The Washington Post," back in Nixon`s day with Ben Bradlee and others back there, Meg Greenfield, the editorial page editor. It is not a liberal paper. It`s a hawkish paper.

Quote, "We have found much to criticize in Mr. Bush`s military strategy and regional diplomacy, but Ms. Pelosi`s attempt to establish a shadow presidency is not only counterproductive, it`s foolish."

Pretty strong, Gene.

ROBINSON: Pretty strong. You know...

(CROSSTALK)

ROBINSON: ... they should tell us what they really think. You know, I mean, I think that she`s right on the substance. She`s clearly right on the substance. Of course, we should be talking to Syria. And you know, this policy that if we don`t like a regime, you know, we pretend -- you know, we cover our ears and we don`t talk to them, is absurd. If Syria can be helpful or is being harmful in Iraq, in Lebanon, whatever, we should talk to them.

Not bad, Mr. Robinson. It's good to hear that you're aware of the, shall we say, shortcomings of Fred Hiatt's WaPo editorial page. Now when are you going to write a column in that very same newspaper saying some of this stuff? WaPo readers would greatly appreciate it. Guaranteed.


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COMMENTS:

The adminsitration didn't seem to have any qualms about talking to the Syrians when they were looking for someplace to send our terror suspects for "rendition."

Posted by: Dan
Date: April 6, 2007 4:22 PM

indeed. not a fact that's likely to appear on the WaPo editorial page.

Posted by: Greg
Date: April 6, 2007 4:24 PM

Now when are you going to write a column in that very same newspaper saying some of this stuff?

Be fair now...Robinson has consistently been one of the best of the Beltway columnists, so it's not like he's been holding back or anything; he just hasn't been specifically criticizing the WaPo.

Posted by: Tom Hilton
Date: April 6, 2007 4:31 PM

Who reads The Post editorial page much anymore? They're not so much hawkish, as ridiculously clubby. And often the worse for it. DC is such the small town.

Posted by: Mark
Date: April 6, 2007 4:32 PM

Gene is the ONLY opinion writer who participates regularly in the excellent live chats the Post has on their website, so I'm not surprised that he doesn't have his head up his behind.

Posted by: Jotham Stavely
Date: April 6, 2007 4:33 PM

Here's the letter I sent to the Post edit page and ombudswoman yesterday. No response, but I don't expect one:

Subject: OK, we get it: the Post hates the left

With the Post's recent run of masthead editorials and high-level opinion pieces attacking each new idea to come from the left side of the political spectrum, I think I speak for many progressives when I say: We get the message. You hate us.

Fred Hiatt despises Democrats for trying to broker peace in the middle east ("Pratfall in Damascus"). David Broder frequently repeats the mantra that the left's ideas are "unserious" - most recently, disparaging efforts to bring democracy to the Presidential election process ("A Dubious Electoral Idea"). Ruth Marcus questions the family values of Elizabeth Edwards for her refusal to give in to cancer ("Family Matters"). The entire editorial board ridicules efforts to end the Iraq war ("Retreat and Butter").

The Post's editors appear to have joined their counterparts at the Wall Street Journal in their instinctive disdain for the political beliefs and personal values of more than half of all Americans. The Post is surely entitled to its opinions, but be warned: most Americans don't take the Journal's editorial page seriously. For an opinion page that wraps itself in its "seriousness," that's no joke.

Seriously,
(mateosf)

Posted by: mateosf
Date: April 6, 2007 4:35 PM

It's not always that Hardball is a breath of fresh air on any subject, but it sure was last night. Thanks for catching that footage of it for everyone to see.

Posted by: jnfr
Date: April 6, 2007 4:48 PM

YouTube says the video is no longer available.

Posted by: Robert Earle
Date: April 6, 2007 4:54 PM

matesof- Excellent!

Posted by: taters
Date: April 6, 2007 4:55 PM

I don't see any progressive columnists at WaPo who write regularly on foreign affairs. David Ignatius sometimes raises useful questions, but typically leaves readers more baffled than when he started and fails to say much that's meaningful. This is one of WaPo's major shortcomings, besides the compromises and bamboolzements that routinely cloud its editorials. That leaves us all the more indebted to Eugene Robinson for speaking up as he does.

Posted by:
Date: April 6, 2007 4:59 PM

One place you can find regular (sometimes negative) substantive critiques of the WaPo converage is in Dan Froomkin's White House Watch on WaPo.com. He is unrelenting.

On an unrelated aside, you should see how the Post is getting flamed for their webpage redesign...with no response whatsoever from the eds.

Posted by: prof. cheese in WI
Date: April 6, 2007 5:22 PM

I hope that the nonsense of the washington post being a "liberal" paper is finally put to bed. It's been part of the narrative for a long time but it's not true. Those on the right scream about some of the reporting while the editorial board is in lock-step with the administration and the hawkish neocon philosophy. The post has become little more than a handout for the administration and during these times that's the last thing I need right now.

Posted by: blueman1
Date: April 6, 2007 5:35 PM

I remember the days when I used to read the Washington Post every day (heck, I used to read the Post on the metro on the way in and the Star on the way home). As a grad student in Boston I used to pay double the face value for copies and considered myself lucky to get it at all.

I haven't bought a copy of the Post in over two years. I read some articles on the net and occasionally read an editorial if it is brought to my attention, but overall the paper has little value to me. Many of the columnists are old and tired (Broder, Cohen) and some of the best have passed on (god, I miss Mary McGrory).

If the Washington Post were a pet, we would have had it put down as an act of kindness several years ago.

Posted by: Caitlyn
Date: April 6, 2007 5:42 PM

Are there any truthful daily papers in the entire US?

I'm serious, I'd like to find one where I don't need my BS detector on high evey time I pick it up.

My hometown rag, the Seattle Times is laughable.

Any reccomendations? And the NYT, that's not a reccomendation.

Posted by: Michael
Date: April 6, 2007 5:43 PM

Nancy's next in line for the presidency if Bush and Cheney go--and she's looking pretty presidential all of a sudden. WaPo's chiding of her for projecting a "shadow presidency" comes as close as anything I've seen to registering the fear that impeachment might not be so distant after all.

Posted by: Tracy
Date: April 6, 2007 5:46 PM

WaPO (Dana Priest) broke the rendition story. Just sayin'.

Posted by: stevesh
Date: April 6, 2007 5:48 PM

I hope that the nonsense of the washington post being a "liberal" paper is finally put to bed.

Not gonna happen. It doesn't matter that there's no support for it; the assertion is a) useful to the wingnuts, and b) central to their worldview. The WaPo could get taken over by Sun Myung Moon and they would still call it 'liberal'.

Posted by: Tom Hilton
Date: April 6, 2007 5:54 PM

My hometown rag, the Seattle Times is laughable.

Any reccomendations? And the NYT, that's not a reccomendation.

Posted by: Michael
Date: April 6, 2007 05:43 PM

Michael, I know it might be a little below a Seattlite to try it, but the Tacoma News Tribune does a fairly good job.

Security Code: Crush, as in crush these dimwitted neocon sycophants.

Posted by: bigcat
Date: April 6, 2007 6:09 PM

Dan Froomkin is terrific - AND he regularly participates in online question and answer - once a week, IIRC.
Just one thing - he's only on line, not in the print paper.

Posted by: tejanarusa
Date: April 6, 2007 6:13 PM

have you ever noticed the responses to a particularly egregious hiatt editorials can elicit 50-60 pages of comments. i think i remember one clocking in at 100+. and they overwhelmingly aren't friendly to his viewpoint.

Posted by: linda
Date: April 6, 2007 6:15 PM

Oh come on all, Pelosi's doing more for helping the Arab women's sorry plight behind black veils and walking behind their men; the men are just shocked at seeing someone in a dress and front and center in the Middle East.

Posted by: Digital Traveler
Date: April 6, 2007 6:16 PM

I read the WaPo web edition daily. The reasons:

Robinson, Dionne, Froomkin.

Plus, the news division has a large hand in focusing the conversations in DC and I do like to keep tabs on the CW.

The better to identify its deficiencies.

Posted by: Citizen Kang
Date: April 6, 2007 6:17 PM

The link is dead. I guess the WaPo wankers had it removed because there is plenty of Hardball clips still on YouTube. Anyone have another link to this video? I guess I'll go over to C&L and see if they have it for download.

Posted by: Bubba
Date: April 6, 2007 6:19 PM

Wow. Someone pulled that one off the YouTube FAST. I wonder who pulled it and why...

Posted by: Mark F.
Date: April 6, 2007 6:21 PM

America, how would you feel?
438,000 Americans killed in War in 2006

America has 12 times the population of Iraq.
How would we feel if:
UN reported that Iraqi deaths averaged 100 per day in 2006.
100 X 365=36,500 X 12=438,000
Lancet Report on Iraqi deaths is now up to 655,000.
655,000 X 12= 7,860,000
Reports vary but many say 2,000,000 have fled their homes.
2,000,000 = 24,000,000.
438,000 Americans killed in one year
7,860,000 Americans killed in four years.
24,000,000 Americans lost their homes.
Oh! How we mourned for 35 years the loss of 58,000 soldiers.
Oh! How we had world ending crisis in New Orleans with loss of homes.
Oh! What a crisis with loss of 2500 Americans from twin towers disaster.
HOW WOULD WE FEEL WERE WE VICTIMS LIKE IRAQIS? Think on it.
Clarence Swinney
Political research historian since 1991 on Reagan-Clinton-Bush II administrations

Posted by: clarence swinney
Date: April 6, 2007 6:36 PM

Pelosi's trip to Syria informing them of the democrat's foreign policy justly deserves the treatment she's getting.

Acting as a parallel Secretary of State is dangerous because the true Secretary of State is confirmed by the Senate and must answer to Congress. Pelosi only answers to her District in California, yet claims to speak on behalf of America.

If she really wants to do so, she must wait until the 08 election. Otherwise, our first female house speaker may also be our first Logan Act conviction.

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Date: April 6, 2007 6:47 PM

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where are the intelligent republicans. seriously, where are the people who can stand up and tell the coulters, limballs, the becks etc etc. to shut their fucking mouths finally and let the adults talk?

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Date: April 6, 2007 7:00 PM

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Date: April 6, 2007 7:13 PM

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Moreover, there are two types of arguments. Those that use logic and reason. And those that impugn the motives of their opponents.

Rather than attack my credibility with an ad hominem attack, attack my argument.

Thanks for playing moonbat.

Posted by: classical liberal
Date: April 6, 2007 7:13 PM

Colby King frequently writes a very good column. Dionne is serious and factual and Robinson's pretty good too. Otherwise the columnists are worthless and the editorials beneath contempt.

It's sad because, apart from its horrible political reporting, it's still a pretty good newspaper. I would stack it up against the NYTimes, which also has horrible political reporting and fewer and fewer non-hack reporters, any day.

Posted by: gordon
Date: April 6, 2007 7:20 PM

The whole idea behind criticizing Pelosi is to get Gonzales off the front page.

Posted by: dick c
Date: April 6, 2007 7:20 PM

Our Corporate Media is approaching two-dollar whore usefulness.

Way to go, Eugene. I'll bet The Man is after you now.

Thanks, TPM, for doing the dirty work of actual investigative journalism. There isn't much left.

Posted by: John O
Date: April 6, 2007 7:39 PM

I think that if you want to know what the CC is talking about the WAPO is a necessary read. I was introduced to the paper because it carried a regular column by Andy Beyer, who I love, because who ever he picks for the Kentucky Derby is a sure loser.

So, how thrilled was I to find Dan Froomkin, E.J. Dionne, and finally Eugene Robinson? Pretty damned thrilled! In my world a day without Froomkin is a day without sunshine. Tuesdays and Fridays are all the better for Eugene Robinson. And any day with E.J. is a good day.

Yes, Fred Hiatt is an ass-hat, but so are most of the political reporters at the NYT’s, but I still think it is important to read. Thank heaven for Krugman!

When Robinson is on the Talking-head Shows I refer to him as the designated driver as he is often the only sober member of the panel. Unfortunately, he is not called on often enough to make sure that the pundits have to sober-up!

Posted by: Tuli Taylor
Date: April 6, 2007 7:58 PM

So where was your outrage when Newt Gingrich and Denny Hastert went overseas and dealt with foreign governments? Any Logan Act convictions for them? Or is it okay when male Republicans speakers act that way, but not when a female Dem does it?

At least Pelosi isn't stating publicly that the Syrians ought to deal with her and Congress directly, not the President. Like Gingrich did. I don't recall any outrage on a clear attempt to usurp Presidential authori-tay on that one.

Code word: Door, like show these hypocrites the...

Posted by: Aquaria
Date: April 6, 2007 8:03 PM

The whole idea behind criticizing Pelosi is to get Gonzales off the front page.

Posted by: dick c
Date: April 6, 2007 07:20 PM

Ding!Ding!Ding! We have a winner!


...blah blah blah moonbat.

Posted by: classical liberal
Date: April 6, 2007 07:13 PM

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Posted by: JD Brooks
Date: April 6, 2007 8:11 PM

Dick C:

The whole idea behind criticizing Pelosi is to get Gonzales off the front page.

I think that is just an added bonus. The reason they are attacking is because the President has to somehow maintain his relevence. He won't speak to our enemies, and our allies won't speak to him. He has to be seen as being in charge, even if no one is taking him seriously.

If he loses relevence now, what is going to happen over the next two years?

Anybody know whatever happened to Condi Rice? She seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.....

Posted by: brianm0122
Date: April 6, 2007 8:44 PM

Is this all because Peloski is a woman? Seriously.

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Posted by: Kizmequick69
Date: April 6, 2007 8:55 PM

Regardless of the finer point of internal US politics, this trip shows a complete lack of Judgment on her part. The Syrians are already leveraging this locally in Lebanon, and their local Quislings are finding renewed energy.

All for a lousy photo-op, we're left to pick up the pieces, again.

Posted by: Jeha
Date: April 6, 2007 8:57 PM

David Broder (whatever his faults, and they are many) does participate in the WaPo online conversations.

Posted by: Mike
Date: April 6, 2007 9:00 PM

Waaaaaaaa! The WaPo isn't being nice to Nancy. They're right-wingers, now. At least until tomorrow when they write something we AGREE with. Get over it. Pelosi's a light-weight, and she screwed up, and even your leftist friends in the media can't cover for her. That's how lame she is. Good grief, the WaPo "hates the left"? The WaPo IS the left, they're just trying to be left with a brain.

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Posted by: jnfr
Date: April 6, 2007 9:16 PM

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