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Downing St Memo and Niblett's "British Idiom" rebuttal


Attend: here's the passage in question: "Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

There's no ambiguity here at all. Consider the countercase: Bush was going to go to war with a certain justification, AND "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy." That syntax fits Niblett's interpretation of the idiom. They had a policy and were assembling the intelligence that supported their policy. Much more neutral, though you still have to squint pretty hard to make it come out as benign.

But as long as it's a contrasting conjunction in there--BUT--the meaning is still just as devastating, even if you accept Niblett's interpretation of the idiom.

"Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. BUT the intelligence and facts were being 'bolted on' the policy." How is that any better? Say "arranged around," "appended," "bolted on," whatever, the meaning is clear: the intelligence wasn't supporting the policy. It's not a question of idiom, it's a question of the logical function of "but": whatever comes after stands in contradistinction to what came before. The first condition  ("justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD") was fundamentally contradicted by the second ("facts and intelligence"). 

I just heard Al Franken get drawn into "Well, we better find a Brit to tell us what it means" about this, and it's complete red herring. You don't need a Brit. Even WITH the purported 'Brit' sense, it still says the same thing. Because of that "but."

 


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I think there's an even more obvious rejoinder.  If this is all just a matter of our not understanding the British idiom, why are they so upset about it over there?

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I'm a Brit and "fixed around" means the same in Britain as it does in the US.

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Oh, criminy.

Let's simply plug "bolted on" into the quote and see if it makes sense:

“C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being bolted on to the policy.”

What next? The memo's in the wrong font? 


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Cripes, now all the Memo defenders over here in the States will co-opt the phrase to mean "bolted on" to give it legitimacy. As in, "I fixed around a gun rack on the back of my pickup."

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Exactly my (rather labored, I admit) point.

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Need I say this is the same technique they're using to try to discredit Amnesty's report by focusing on the word "gulag." Why are we surprised anymore? They pretty much adopted these rhetorical techniques back in the late ’50s when the Birchers were meeting in paneled basements. Now they run the country.
I just posted some thoughts on the Memo. What's needed are the details behind this passage. Exactly what intelligence was fixed (whatever the hell that word means) and how? And by the way, was the yellowcake story part of this?

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But if the war was not about WMD, as the White House and the wingnuts also say more than occasionally (in fact, I just read it again today), then the fixed or broken evidence is a moot point. 

Of course, in that case the appeal to the UN was only a charade, a distraction, in the run-up to a war was going to happen for other reasons.

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Not that any more argument is really needed, but I note that Alan Ryan. who is--er um--English, seems to understand the language of the sentence in question just as we North Americans do (in "Waiting for Gordon Brown," New York Review, June 23, 2005, p. 34, n. 1.

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Here's the way I read the passage in question (parts in bold my additions) ... "Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the [suspicion of a] conjunction of terrorism and WMD [which was considered justification enough by Bush]. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy [to add weight to the argument]."

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Here's the way I read the passage in question (parts in bold my additions) ... "Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the [suspicion of a]conjunction of terrorism and WMD [which was considered justification enough by Bush]. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy [to add weight to the argument]."

Well, it's always fun to talk to a post-modernist, even an unwitting one. Trained as a literary scholar, I'd agree that language is inherently polysemous and admits of multiple, perhaps infinite readings if you're free enough with your interlineal glossing. As a medievalist, I can appreciate the latter as well--you can always tell which biblical passages were the most difficult for the rigidities of the medieval mind: they were the ones where the glossing outweighed the original, 10-to-1. The Song of Solomon gets about one line of genuine text per folio page in medieval Bibles.

But having lived through the period in question with some semblance of consciousness, I'd have to say this is nonsense. Your interlinear gymnastics try to force it into the alternative universe we're supposed to be inhabiting now, but that "but" won't go away and you only manage to blur the outlines slightly. It still says the case wasn't there, but they were determined to make the evidence support it even so, and that's the point.

Which was obvious at the time. I mean, simply obvious. The grand non-sequitur of shifting the topic to Iraq when we had hardly dealt with Afghanistan, and bin Laden was still at large--who was demanding that? Not the CIA, whose leaked memos at the time indicated a great skepticism of the enterprise. Yet later they were blamed for making Bush do it, even as Tenet received the Medal of Freedom for, well, certainly not making them invade Iraq, since that wasn't a mistake anyway, even though it was bad intel that made them do it... but something else I guess. Your own comment is a fractal iteration at the micro level of the pretzel logic obtaining throughout the whole enterprise.

The sense of the passage is plain. I note that, despite the thrust of this thread, even the Bushistas themselves have expended little effort trying to twist the document into saying the opposite of what it says--a rare thing for them. Mehlman claimed it had been "debunked" (and it can hardly have been "debunked" if what it said was that nothing untoward happened, yes?) but on redirect had to admit all he meant was that unrelated investigations had "cleared" Blair and Bush of the hyping intel charge in general. Which is b.s. in its own right but we don't have space for that argument here. Indeed, one of the commonest explanations for why the document has not made a bigger splash in the media is because its plain sense doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know--those of us who have not surrender all historical judgment to the kool-aid of context-free neo-con post-modernist thought.

Or to put another way, I'm accusing you of not really believing what you are saying. You seem intelligent enough, therefore I assume the real thought process is along the lines of "Of course they were bs-ing us into war, but that's what always happens and it was for our own good, therefore I must construct an argument to nullify this piece of information so that it doesn't threaten that worthy enterprise."

And that's what I really don't understand. Why not just make that argument? Why does your position, if it's valid, have to rest on  maintaining that what so obviously did happen didn't really happen? If you approve of the war, why don't you approve of what they plainly and obviously did to get us into it? I mean, do we have to be children and pretend to fool each other instead of facing facts like adults? Tell me the war was an overriding necessity and therefore any amount of mendacity was justified to make it happen. Others have let the mask slip. Jonah Goldberg for one. Try to convince me that the lying was justified. But don't try to convince me that 2 + 2 = 5. I don't believe it any more than you do.

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Josh had a post about this sometime ago here. This excerpt from one of the linked items I found refreshingly honest in admitting what the defenders of the Iraq invasion seem to implicitly suggest:

But Thomas Patrick Carroll, a former officer in the Clandestine Service of the CIA, suggests in the conservative Front Page Magazine that those dwelling on the memo may be missing the forest for the trees.
It is simply inexcusable for opinion makers and public intellectuals (e.g., those who made such a fuss about the 'revelations' in the Downing Street memo) not to grasp the strategic imperatives behind what we are doing in Iraq and elsewhere. It's certainly okay to disagree with our strategy, but for supposedly sophisticated commentators to miss the entire point and continue raving about WMD and UN sanctions is simply beyond the pale.
In other words they lied, so what! 

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DrBB has got it right!!!!

Now our discussion should focus on how we (anyone) can get the MSM and anyone else to start listening to Nader and push push push impeachment!!!!! 

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I agree--the mainstream media needs to get with the program and be responsible in serving the American public's interest and stop perpetuating GOP spin, right wing PR nonsense, outright egregious lies and such rubbish and start properly investigating this story and holding these corrupt cronies responsible rather than buying into all this crap. The memo means exactly what we think it means. There is no misunderstanding. (That claim is a load of pure unadulterated bunk.) period.

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Rich Lowry slipped that preposterous argument right in to the Jim Lehrer round table with Mark Shields on Friday. I sat aghast as Jim Lehrer paused briefly, Mark Shields remained silent, and they moved along to the next topic without question or comment. Nothing. And PBS is our liberal bastion?

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This comment is a subject/topic for another forum, however I will offer this view as it seems appropriate to the topic being discussed.

I did not see the program mentioned above, however, CPB, PBS, and NPR are all under the gun now from a guy named Ken Tomlinson, a Bush hatchet man (I think he's currently chairman of CPB) who's been complaining that public broadcasting is not "fair and balanced".  This inspite of two individual polls (conducted on his watch) where the public says otherwise.

So, given those conditions, it could be that Jim Lehrer was not prepared to go further with Rich Lowery's comment.


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