From Dick Morris- Hillary... Its Over
Enjoy.
It’s over By Dick Morris Posted: 03/06/08 06:02 PM [ET]
The real message of Tuesday’s primaries is not that Hillary won. It’s that she didn’t win by enough.
The race is over.
The
results are already clear. Obama will go to the Democratic Convention
with a lead of between 100 and 200 elected delegates. The remaining
question is: What will the superdelegates do then? But is that really a
question? Will the leaders of the Democratic Party be complicit in its
destruction? Will they really kindle a civil war by denying the
nomination to the man who won the most elected delegates? No way. They
well understand that to do so would be to throw away the party’s
chances of victory and to stigmatize it among African-Americans and
young people for the rest of their lives. The Democratic Party took 20
years to recover from the traumas of 1968 and it is not about to
trigger a similar bloodletting this year.
John McCain’s
nomination guarantees that the superdelegates wouldn’t dare. A
perfectly acceptable alternative for most Democrats, McCain would
harvest so large a proportion of Obama’s votes if Hillary steals the
nomination that he would probably win. Even putting Obama on the ticket
would not allay the anger of his supporters; it would just make him
complicit in the robbery.
Will Hillary win Pennsylvania? Who
cares? Even if she were to sweep the remaining primaries and caucuses
by 10 points, she would move just 60 votes closer to Obama’s total of
elected delegates. And she won’t sweep them all. Even if Hillary wins
Pennsylvania, the largest prize up for grabs, Obama will probably win
North Carolina, which is almost as large. He’s likely to win
Mississippi and Wyoming and has a good shot in Oregon and Indiana. The
most likely result of these coming contests is that Obama will be
roughly where he is now, about 140 elected delegates ahead of Hillary.
Suppose
that Hillary will carry those states by enough to offset Obama’s
delegate lead. The proportional representation system makes a knockout
impossible and so mutes relatively narrow victories as to make them
almost inconsequential. Little Vermont, with 600,000 people, gave Obama
a net gain of four delegates, half of what Hillary won from the Texas
primary, a state with 20 million residents. Even after Hillary won
big-state victories in Ohio and Texas, she drew only 20 closer to
Obama’s total of elected delegates.
Hillary won’t withdraw.
That much is for sure. The tantalizing notion that 800 insiders can
offset a season of primaries and caucuses will drive both Clintons to
ever-escalating rhetoric. Will their attacks hurt Obama? Likely all
they will achieve is to give him needed experience in the cut and
thrust of media politics.
Left out of the entire equation is
poor John McCain. Unable to get a word in edgewise and unsure of which
Democrat to attack, he will have to watch from the sidelines as Hillary
and Obama hog the headlines. If the superdelegates deliver the
nomination to Hillary in the dead of night without leaving fingerprints
at the crime scene, McCain’s nomination will be worth having. If Obama
prevails, it won’t be worth the paper on which it is written. The giant
killer, Obama will have soared to new heights of popularity and McCain
won’t be able to bring him back to Earth in the nine weeks that will
remain.
Suggestion for Obama:
The
next time Hillary uses the recycled red phone ad, counter with one of
your own. When the phone rings in the middle of the night, have a
woman’s voice, with a flat Midwestern accent, answer it and say, “Hold
on” into the receiver. Then she should shout, “Bill! It’s for you!”
Because with Hillary’s complete lack of any meaningful experience in foreign affairs, and her lack of the “testing” that she boldly claims, she’ll be yelling for Bill.





-- Then she should shout, “Bill! It’s for you!” --
That might actually get her MORE votes. I know a lot of Hillary supporters who are just assuming that Bill will be the 'real' president, since he has the experience and the knowledge needed. That's why they're supporting her, in fact. They're looking for a complete return to the 1990's.
March 10, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. It seems almost daily some woman is reported in the newspaper, "I'm not really voting for Hillary, I"m voting more for Bill. I know I'll get 2 for the price of 1 with them."
When I first saw it back in mid-Feb. I gagged. By the end of Feb. it was happening so often, I assumed it was a talking point from the Clinton's campaign. Now, that I see it almost daily, I know it must be.
If Obama ran a tone deaf ad like what Morris suggested, he'll lose a lot of women.
March 10, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do you have a link? Also, there is no mention of what effect Michigan or Florida might have.
March 10, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Some of you folks are starting to lose it here! This is a recommended post? All it is is a paste-up job of a column written by Dick Morris!!! Yes that Dick Morris.
March 10, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
No matter what anyone thinks of Hillary, do NOT validate Dick f'ing Morris. Hey, Dick. When and if Hillary drops out and fades into obscurity like Dukakis or Mondale... so will you. Take Drudge with you while you're at it and go get some more hookers.
Who do you like, Dick? Heidi Fleiss or Divine Brown, pick your STD.
March 10, 2008 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought it would get a a reaction. :)
Good response, very entertaining.
March 10, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
There was a good discussion about the Dick Morris issue this weekend. Read the comments on my post: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/amber/
From: Cafe, Election Central
Dick Morris Tells Hillary "It's Over."
March 9, 2008, 11:32PM
Dick Morris is a scumbag, but he's a brilliant scumbag who knows the Clintons well and makes a point that's been reflected by TPM readers. His column in the Hill lays it out clearly.
"The real message of Tuesday’s primaries is not that Hillary won. It’s that she didn’t win by enough.
The race is over.
The results are already clear. Obama will go to the Democratic Convention with a lead of between 100 and 200 elected delegates. The remaining question is: What will the superdelegates do then? But is that really a question? Will the leaders of the Democratic Party be complicit in its destruction? Will they really kindle a civil war by denying the nomination to the man who won the most elected delegates? No way. They well understand that to do so would be to throw away the party’s chances of victory and to stigmatize it among African-Americans and young people for the rest of their lives. The Democratic Party took 20 years to recover from the traumas of 1968 and it is not about to trigger a similar bloodletting this year."
I'm getting a little tired of the media and can see that in most cases they're simply cashing in with viewers who, despite the end of the Writers Guild strike, are still tuning in to the election drama. It's over and Obama is in the winners spot, but nobody in the media will really say that because there's a lot more ad revenue to pull in especially from the candidates themselves.
http://thehill.com/dick-morris/its-over-2008-03-06.html
March 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Morris was predicting a Hillary win, and a VP nod ("she has to, she has no choice"), and a failed one-term presidency, as little as three months ago.
The guy's a clown.
March 10, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sure, Dick Morris is a hack, but a smart one. He was a hack in the 1980's and 1990's too, but was Hillary's "go-to" guy back in Arkansas and in the White House. See, Robert Reich's column of last week. Reich is the Oxford pal of Bill's that was later Secretary of Labor, so has credibility on this.
March 10, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even a stopped clock is right 2 times a day.
March 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, yet another thread of the Obama fans showing their quality.
This is the "change" you're all trumpeting? Looks like the same old gutter politics of the GOP to me. How, precisely is it any different?
Dick Morris.
Good grief!
March 10, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
The next time someone gives the "I'm voting for Hillary because I really want Bill back" remind them of how many Republicans are saying, with deep regret, "But I voted for George W because I wanted his daddy back." --- Even Bill isn't the same Bill he was back then. And Hillary, as we are all seeing, is a force of her own who might be more than happy (too happy?) to follow GWB's example and try to prove herself "better."
And listening to Dick Morris or anyone who may have insight on what is going on doesn't negate the idea of "change" -- it actually reinforces it: being open to perhaps benefitting from ideas of people with whom you disagree or who are very different.
March 10, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
"If Obama ran a tone deaf ad like what Morris suggested, he'll lose a lot of women."
You mean the older whte women who seem to stay with Hillary no matter how racist, cheatign and ugly she gets?
These women are total hypocrites. Hillary is ranting "shame on you" and gets a pass. She wages fullscale war on MSNBC, not Obama, for soem offensive remarks that are "sexist". Obama calls her "likable enough" and is attacked as being ungentlemanlike. When he doesn't hit back he's "weak" and she's a "fighter", when he does he risks " offending" and being seen as "cocky".
I guess the rule here is "Obama is always wrong".
I think this is like waiting for evanglical rightwing christians to "wake up" to what Bush is doing.
Better focus on blue collar white men. They are the true swing vote here. Also younger Latinos.
March 11, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point, Elizabeth2. Not only is there no guarantee that Bill Clinton would be there to advise Hillary (health or marriage could fail at any point), there's no guarantee that Hillary would listen to him. I think the concept of 2-for-1 was an enormous factor in first election of George W., and we saw how that worked out.
March 11, 2008 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Will the Clinton Machine try to extort or blackmail Superdelegates into supporting Hillary with personal dirt on the Super-Ds?
Remember the "dirty tricks" squads of the Clintons in attacking Ken Starr? The New York governor sex scandal reminds many floks of the real "Clinton Legacy."
March 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink