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Hillary Endorses McCain


Hillary told reporters in Texas that only she and John McCain have the experience necessary to be president.  All Obama offers is empty speeches.  I am scratching myhead trying to figure out how the party comes together to support her if she manages to prevail as the nominee.   And if she is not the nominee, won't she just have to sit this election out after some of the things she has said about the nominee this year?


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Wow. Why is she doing that? I can't imagine it is really going to help her.

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God I hope Obama destroys her tommorrow. Win Texas, Ohio and Vermont. She be finish.


Gooooooodbyyyye Hillary!

Hillary will not concede. She plans on trashing Obama all the way to the convention. If she can't have the nomination she intends to ensure that Obama is political unviable and unable to win the general...she'll be baaaaak in 2012.


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/02/clinton_counts.html


WASHINGTON -- Hillary Clinton will take the Democratic nomination even if she does not win the popular vote, but persuades enough superdelegates to vote for her at the convention, her campaign advisers say.

The New York senator, who lost three primaries Tuesday night, now lags slightly behind her rival, Illinois Senator Barack Obama, in the delegate count. She is even further behind in "pledged'' delegates, those assigned by virtue of primaries and caucuses.

But Clinton will not concede the race to Obama if he wins a greater number of pledged delegates by the end of the primary season, and will count on the 796 elected officials and party bigwigs to put her over the top, if necessary, said Clinton's communications director, Howard Wolfson.

"I want to be clear about the fact that neither campaign is in a position to win this nomination without the support of the votes of the superdelegates,'' Wolfson told reporters in a conference call.

"We don't make distinctions between delegates chosen by million of voters in a primary and those chosen between tens of thousands in caucuses,'' Wolfson said. "And we don't make distinctions when it comes to elected officials'' who vote as superdelegates at the convention.

"We are interested in acquiring delegates, period,'' he added.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388372/

Interesting article on Hillary Clinton at Wellesley, as president of the Wellesley Young Republicans she wrote her thesis on Alinsky. She appears to have picked up some of his tactics.

So now she's counting her whole lifetime as experience? Who seriously puts their whole life on their resume?

"Thanks for coming in today."

"It's a pleasure to be here. I really appreciate the opportunity to come in an interview."

"We're glad to have you. I noticed that your resume goes back quite a way. I thought you might want to tell us a little about your experience in your own words."

"Sure. It all started as a twinkle in my father's eye."

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"So, by this time I was three years old and I had already started to excel not only at building sandcastles, but also at running the imaginary kingdoms surrounding them."

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"Of course, this was the beginning of the dreaded 'awkward phase.' I was hoping we could just skip over this part."

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"And then he leaned over and tried to kiss me. The timing was awful and I threw up all over the car."

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Interesting to note that she also granted McCain a lifetime of experience. Given that McCain's lifetime has a solid decade and some change on her lifetime, how does she turn this narrative around in the general election? Not that I expect her to actually honor this standard.

You are supporting a guy who says his foreign policy experience comes from living abroad when he was a kid, and you are making sand castle jokes about the other candidate? Open your freaking eyes.

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I am supporting the candidate who has not come out saying things that will destroy the other candidate in the fall. I am supporting the candidate that is not getting Rush's endorsement. I am supporting the candidate who will make a better president, Barack Obama!

DF -

Woody Allen said, "90% of life is just showing up" - she should adopt that as a campaign slogan.

Holy crap, that was stupid.

Wait. Remind me why everyone says she's so smart?? I'm having trouble remembering just now...

This is silly.

The actual quote, from the link above:

“I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say,” she said. “He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002.”

But let's all pretend she endorsed McCain and then bitch about it.

Rico,

Hillary's not going to win the nomination. The Democratic Party is showing its respect by waiting for her to give these Ohio and Texas contests her best shot. She's not going to make it though. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be snarky.

Which means she just handed a beautiful gift to John McCain to use during the campaign for the general election.

It wasn't a smart move.

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Rico gives you the complete quote which proves that what Hillary said isn't as was presented in this post and then you... continue on with the same line of criticism? OK. From now on, nobody's allowed to say anything bad about Obama ever because his supporters are hypersensitive!

destor 23,

The complete quote didn't change the damage of her message, so yes, I did address rico--not to criticize him, but to remind him think about the consequences beyond the primaries.

I'm not being over-sensitive, I'm being rational. I know Sen. Clinton is working hard to stay in the race, but I think the stress of trying to save the campaign is leading her to make mistakes the Republicans will easily exploit in the general election.

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She is implying that she and Sen McCain have a long resume and that Obama is not qualified to compete with them. The truth is that Sen Obama's public service resume is longer than hers. Unless you count being a corprate lawyer and WalMart board member as experience.

Oh, I thought this was going to be a reference to her 3 AM ad.

When I saw that ad I seriously thought it was going to turn out to be a McCain ad.

Then Mary Matalin said the same thing on Meet the Press on Sunday and I felt a little dirty, but it's true.

All in the world McCain would have to do in the general against Hillary (as if, I know) is just play that ad, and when Hillary's picture comes up sort of do a "needle scratching off the record" sound and a voice going "Huh? Hillary?" And then the obligatory John McCain shot. Race over.

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No, let's all pretend that Obama has *not* taken the high road vis-a-vis Hillary, and that what's really going on here is that we Obama supporters are just "bitching" about something as inconsequential as a Dem candidate suggesting that "experience" trumps being on the wrong side of this goddam war.

There's one candidate asking us to summon the courage to allow our better angels to inform our vote, and another candidate asking us to consider whether or not the Republicans haven't been right all along. Which one are you gonna vote for?

Yeah, I want a fighter. A fighter with the wits and wherewithall to finally turn the page on this goddam fearmongering.

Nice guys finish last? That's not what I teach my kids. But I also teach them not to ever allow themselves to be bullied. Let's not kid ourselves about who's bullying who here. Goddam 3 AM phone call. You've gotta be kidding. As if our country depends on one single hyper-competent leader to keep the whole thing from falling apart. What it depends on is millions of us not losing our nerve.

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She thinks she can run on experience against McCain? She is delusional.

No mention of this on the front page.

Imagine, though, if Barrack had said that. What remains of Josh's hair would've shed itself.

Umm No.

Here is the video. She did not say it as you're suggesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw

this was in reference to Ricosuave. It's too early in SoCal. Between the lack of caffeine, inner rage at Hillary's comments and the thought of a McCain/Clinton White House I've gone and forgot to hit the reply button.

In the immortal words of Homer Simpson (to avoid any plagiarism charges): D'Oh

I cannot believe these experience claims are making an impression on voters.

John McCain has voted with Bush for the last 7 years--that's experience we don't need. And so what if he was a POW for 5 years in Vietnam a hundred years ago? That taught him nothing about how to wage a modern war. The truth about McCain is that he is the lesser son and grandson of bone fide war heros.

Now for Senator Clinton, I used to think she was quite intelligent and was excited about the prospect of having her as president. But she has run her campaign poorly and, lately, inauthentically. She has reminded me of the sleazy behavior I didn't like about her husband, for whom I voted twice (everyone has faults). Her recent tactics against Obama are shameful. Crying in New Hampshire and whining about how the press was attacking her is a setback for all professional women. Bellyaching about mistreatment in a work setting is viewed by most professionals as weakness.

And finally, her experience. I think older women identify with Hillary because many spent their lives supporting their husbands' careers, as Hillary has done as First Lady in Arkansas and Washington. The woman behind the man. Younger women don't accept that as experience. I'm a surgeon and my husband is an engineer. After 14 years of marriage, you wouldn't want him operating on you or me designing a bridge in your town.

That's because your marriage isn't a partnership between two people who wanted to change the country.

Hillary is out of control, she is on a vendetta, she is so pissed that she isn't winning this thing that she is trying to take down Obama with her so he can't win. Her campaign is running on spite now, and we have to take her down. She is only helping McCain now, and everyone knows it, this is why Limbaugh is telling his supporters to vote for her in Texas today, to keep her in the race to hurt the Democrats.

My full commentary on the subject:

http://thepersonalispolitical.tumblr.com/post/27938741

At this point it is hard to see how Hillary Clinton can gain anything but a Pyrrhic victory today.

It takes a village, even if we have to burn that village to save it.

ricosuave,

If Hillary had not been campaigning all across America with a mesage that 'a lifetime of experience' is her chief claim to excellence as a candidate and the main reason we should vote for her you might have a point. But the FACTS are that experience has been the total of whatever positive message she has about herself. And now John McCain.

She has said, in plain English that she and McCain have a lifetime of experience to offer. Obama has a speech. She slammed her Democratic teammate and lifted up the Republican oponent. There is no need to spin this. She believes John McCain is better than Obama and she said so in a public venue with reporters present.

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I believe what she was saying was that McCain was going to be campaigning on his lifetime of experience, and that she was the better person to counter those claims.

I think she's full of shit and I hope she loses, but I don't think she was endorsing McCain.

I'm sure that's what she was trying to say. But it came out terribly wrong.

In any case, how does her "lifetime experience" better than McCain's "lifetime experience."

If that's going to be the benchmark, then give McCain the Presidency: at 71 years old, he has the "lifetime experience" advantage.

I don't buy that, and no Democrat should buy that. The truth is: Obama has experience with Constitutional law and with passing good legislation over tough obstacles.

Isn't that what we should be looking at?

No, it wasn't an endorsement of McCain but it was stupid, nonetheless.

Instead of taking the opportunity to smash McCain for continuing to support Bush's war, she used the opportunity to bash Obama.

Her risk/reward evaluation skills suck. Thoroughly.

>>>I believe what she was saying was that McCain was going to be campaigning on his lifetime of experience, and that she was the better person to counter those claims.>>>

Right. But of course, even if you reword it charitably for her, when you look at it, what she is saying, on this and Iraq/National-Security is that she is the better person to face McCain because she is more like him. Which is another way of saying "we need to be more like the Republicans." Which is another way of saying "we are spineless DLC triangulators who don't really believe in anything."

Points for implicit honesty.

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I worry that the more over-the-top "Hillary Endorses McCain" rhetoric the Clinton supporters see, the more they will dig in their heels. Although, frankly, I don't see any other reason besides stubbornness for supporting her at this point. Her campaign is like a car wreck in slow motion.

Looks like Bill Clinton endorses Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe0BPwWAxnk

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Obama isn't offering up "just a speech". He's offering up the judgment he showed inthat speech.

Read that speech today and you'll see exactly what he predicted would happen actually did happen.

That foresight and judgment is what Obama will be putting up against John McCain. And i think its an argument he can win handily.

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