Obama and Clinton Supporters Must Drop Out of the Race
I think one thing is clear this far into the Democratic primary race: Both Obama's and Clinton's supporters must now drop out of the race.
Hillary Clinton's supporters have gotten incredibly annoying, with their chants of "Yes She Can," and charges of cultism and their desperate yelps of schadenfreude every time Clinton looks like she might actually be "recapturing the lead" that she never had.
And Obama's supporters, yes, you too are incredibly annoying, with your accusations of Clintonian Republicanism and your whiny little cries about how you're going to take your ball and run home if your candidate doesn't win the primary.
Supporters of both candidates, please listen closely. For the good of the Party -- no, for the good of the Nation! -- the time has come for you to leave this race.
No more late nights in front of MSNBC. No more blogging. No more reading TPM. No more arguing at the watercooler, or at the happy hour after work at TGIF's.
Find a hobby -- knitting is really getting popular these days!
Anything, anything but your insistent and continual droning on and on about how perfect your candidate is.
Remember -- the future of this Republic is at stake.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter.
Hillary Clinton's supporters have gotten incredibly annoying, with their chants of "Yes She Can," and charges of cultism and their desperate yelps of schadenfreude every time Clinton looks like she might actually be "recapturing the lead" that she never had.
And Obama's supporters, yes, you too are incredibly annoying, with your accusations of Clintonian Republicanism and your whiny little cries about how you're going to take your ball and run home if your candidate doesn't win the primary.
Supporters of both candidates, please listen closely. For the good of the Party -- no, for the good of the Nation! -- the time has come for you to leave this race.
No more late nights in front of MSNBC. No more blogging. No more reading TPM. No more arguing at the watercooler, or at the happy hour after work at TGIF's.
Find a hobby -- knitting is really getting popular these days!
Anything, anything but your insistent and continual droning on and on about how perfect your candidate is.
Remember -- the future of this Republic is at stake.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter.
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I'm sorry but I represent an annoying segment of the population and I have a duty to help them annoy people up through the convention. Onward to Denver!
March 5, 2008 9:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Knitting, destor. I suggest knitting...
March 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
WooooooOOOOOOOOO!
March 5, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about Democratic Party supporters?
LOL
O.K. I'll just STHU.
March 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
GO NADER!!!!!!!!!!
March 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yeah, I forgot about Nadar supporters.
They can stay in.
March 5, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
But . . . but . . . but . . . MY candidate is superior in every quantifiable way to YOUR candidate! Everything your candidate does is a lie/smear/trick while everything my candidate does is perfect.
The same thing goes for my local sports team over your local sports team, as well as for my spouse over your spouse.
March 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey....mine too!
March 5, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you to those on this site, your posts have made this Democrat smile, for the first time in weeks. Bravo.
March 7, 2008 8:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
So did you just start paying attention to politics or what? Get thicker skin.
March 5, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're obviously a Clinton supporter.
Or an Obama supporter.
Not sure which is worse. Whichever is worse, that's what you are.
March 5, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a whining supporter, get it right.
March 5, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I stand corrected.
:-)
March 5, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
So did you just start paying attention to comedy or what? Get a better sense of humor.
March 5, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is nothing funny about politics.
People who make jokes about primaries are socially and morally deficient.
March 5, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
This has been the best post that I have read anywhere.
Too funny.
As a whinny Obama supporter, I can only laugh in half-hearted (you know which half) agreement.
Thanks.
March 5, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're very welcome.
March 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
"My dad is better than your dad. He's got eight cars and a house in Ireland. SING IT!"
-McClusky
March 5, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I feel your pain.
March 5, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where is Al Gore?
March 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do you mean why isn't all Gore in the race?
Or that I should have included Al Gore supporters in my post.
Because that reminds me -- I should have included Al Gore supporters in this post. With their sad and heartbreakingly desperate yet futile cries for him to get back into the race...
:-)
March 5, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, I think everyone needs a breather.
This has been like the Bataan Death March the past two weeks.
How will the media, pundits and voters handle 6 or 7 weeks of nothingness???
March 5, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
How will the media, pundits and voters handle 6 or 7 weeks of nothingness???
I know how TPM bloggers will handle it -- 6 more weeks of whining.
It's like Groundhog Day From Hell.
March 5, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I don't know, maybe this will actually give us a chance to pay closer attention to what President McChimpy is up to.
March 5, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you forgetting WY and MS those are the contest that lead into the dry spell.
Excelnt News For Hillary!!!!
March 5, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
So you want all those people who are lately involved in the political system - many for the first time, to simply go away?
I have it! Let's go back to w, cheney, chickenhawk & co.s way of by-passing the majority of Americans...
I think not!
March 5, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, voting is so overrated.
I think we should listen to Britney Spears. She once said, "Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that."
That's exactly what we should do.
March 5, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who are you, and why should we care what you think?
March 5, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you don't know cscs, then you don't know nuttin...
Nough said!♪♪♪
March 5, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nailed it!
March 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Slam :)
March 5, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who are you, and why should we care what you think?
Well, this seems like a strange comment on a blog, no?
Isn't the whole premise of blogging that none of us are anyone, that none of us really have a voice out there, but on a blog we get to be someone for once?
Self-hating bloggers always crack me up...
March 5, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
You haven't lost your knack for the front-page blog post. Congrats.
Maybe we can get back to complaining about Bush and friends? I'm already tired of this campaign.
March 5, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm tired of it, too.
And by the way, with the New! Improved! TPMCafe, we actually no longer get to be on the front page.
Just high up in the recommended rankings.
That's not enough for me!
I think what we should do is one day a week, turn over the entire TPMCafe operation to just me, and all my postings.
It would be awesome.
Mr. Golis...paging Mr. Golis...
Josh?
Bueller???
March 5, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, cscs for front page punditocracy!!!
♪♪♪
March 5, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
My new party: Punditcrats
March 5, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Us Punditcrats hate the Punditcans.
March 5, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I second! Can I be VP? Oh no wait, Thera you get that spot. Um...can I just be an incompetent crony who says "right on" on every comment? I can do that. :)
March 5, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you are going to trash Hillary, at least use verifiable facts. Her supporters said "Yes she WILL" which is in line with her message and her argument. It is not enough to hope, which is what "Yes we CAN" represents. You must be able to deliver. There is a difference between can and will. It isn't subtle. It is a core difference in philosophy.
March 5, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Will, Can...whatever.
Really, I wasn't paying all that much attention.
March 5, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Please, try to keep up...
Myself, I prefer a middle ground: "Yes we ought." It both encompasses Obama's message (ought implies can) and reaches out to the Moral Majority with its added ethical component. Maybe if Al Gore were in the race this message could be his.
Anyone have a good "yes we..." slogan for McCain?
March 5, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes we Cain?
March 5, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
He Cain. We're Able!
March 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like it, but Bible thumpers might recall what actually happened to Able.
;P
March 5, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shhhhhhh....
♪♪♪
March 5, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The southern sound appeals to the base... I like!
The best I can come up with is "yes we must," but that's a real buzzkill.
March 5, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I like "Yes me Cain" better on review.
:D
March 6, 2008 7:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about "Yes we, um...what was I saying"
March 5, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr Foo:
Somehow when I think of McCain, a "Yes, we..." statement just doesn't seem to fit. How 'bout the more appropos, "No, he can't (Cain't?)...McCain isn't Able"?
March 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
ok, I get it. A can is ready to be filled. A will is ready for a demise.
cscs... go for it! ♪♪♪
March 5, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, the "core philosophy" you speak of is completely wrong. "Yes we can" is not about hope; it's about changing the politics of Washington--something that Clinton will never ever attempt, because she is such a corrupt piece of trash. Just like her husband. And just like the CEO, Mark Penn, who is running her campaign. Are all Clinton supporters really that dim?
March 6, 2008 2:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
{knit one... perl two...}
March 6, 2008 7:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am not an Obama supporter and have no great enthusiasm for him. He's far too cozy with the centers of corporate power in this country, he's voted to fund the wars consistently, his medical insurance plan is just that--a plan to put money into the private insurance companies when it's obvious that we need a single-payer plan akin to those in Western European countries. That said, he did oppose the war in Iraq, and could vote for him, albeit without great enthusiasm. Hillary, however, is consistently on the side of the monied interests, has a steady and consistent history of war enthusiasm, has a career of showing interest in little except her career. I could not vote for her. If she is nominated, I will vote for Nader instead, or for some similar alternative. This is not a case of a pouting Obama supporter saying that I will take my ball and go home. It simply is thus: I could vote for Obama, although without enthusiams, but I could not vote for Hillary. She's far too similar to McCain. Even she said so.
March 5, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is not a case of a pouting Obama supporter
You're pouting.
I can see it.
Yep -- right there.
A pout.
March 5, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remarkably well chosen moniker for that post there.....
March 6, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Viva Gravel!
March 5, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gravel's Rock and Fire ads would be a peaceful interlude right about now.
March 5, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you are an Obama supporter you should care because your candidate represents a change in poliltics as usual, and your "why should I care" represents politics AS USUAL. If you are a Clinton supporter you should care because solutions require consensus, and your help will be required and your "why should I care" helps nobody.
March 5, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right now, I'm an "Anyone But A Republican" supporter.
It doesn't matter to me, as neither Obama nor Clinton is really going to change the world all that much.
Wait -- was that a serious comment???
Scratch that from the record.
March 5, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, you are seriously in need of a funny bone transplant. Get on the list.
March 5, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
From the avatar I don't think it is genetically possible.
March 5, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
cscs, you have outdone yourself! This thread could actually go on and on with arguments back and forth, just like the good ole days of the ole Cafe!
Yes, cscs, you have revived the soul of the Cafe.
I salute you!!!! Go ahead and disagree if you like, but I love this post!
Go-Bama!!! ♪♪♪
And blessed be the Peacemakers!!! ♪♪♪
March 5, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, TheraP!
March 5, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
By the way, CranialRectalLoopback, it a core philosophical difference that distinguishes Hillary from Barack is that one would use the word "can" and the other the word "will," the core philosophy appears extremely banal.
March 5, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think both sides can unite over this insult. Our dual-cultism must be acknowledged and respected!
I do agree, as an Obamalamaramabamamaniac, that the talk of switching to Nader or not voting or sulking so hard you vote for McCain isn't acceptable. We don't want four to eight more years of right-wing Supreme Court appointees, 100 to 1,000 more years in Iraq, a few more wars, a president supported by corporate lobbyists, etc.
March 5, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
But McCain is a maverick!
Surely that counts for something, doesn't it???
He's a straight-shooter, and that's what we need in Washington DC these days -- more straight-shooters.
(Joking rhetorical silliness there...no need to reply...people are taking this thread way too seriously...)
March 5, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Get your straight's straight please. McCain is a straight talker not a shooter
I think we can all agree that his shooting days are long gone. Just look at his wife....
March 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Will you please stop whining?
March 5, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are you sure knitting is popular? I don't want an unpopular hobby.
March 5, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, trust me.
Knitting is very popular.
March 5, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Be on the cutting edge! Go for it!
♪♪♪
March 5, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
The split is substantial.
Obama will remain in the lead.
Clinton cannot catch up.
Heal the party.
Obama-Clinton 2008
March 5, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes... but which clinton?
March 5, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about Chelsea? Chelsea for VP!
♪♪♪
March 5, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mmm yeah, I'm just not too sure about that right now :)
March 5, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
me neither! ♪♪♪
March 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Roger?
March 5, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you suggesting we pimp her out for state funerals?
March 5, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Finally.
March 5, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I live with a won't-vote-for-the-bitch person and it's frustrating. I think a lot of Hillary supporters--the women--will vote for whomever gets the nomination because they will remember what's really at stake: the Supreme Court. One more conservative justice will lurch the court rightwards for another fifty years and will sink abortion rights. I hope the Obama supporters will remember this, too, but maybe a lot of them are too young or pissed to remember that to liberals (including me), Bill Clinton seemed like a disaster, too. He was a triangulating capitulator just like his wife. It took Bush for me to realize that a disastrous Democrat wasn't so bad after all.
The perfect is the enemy of the good. I'm pulling for Obama, but I'm not ruling out voting for a pet rock, if that's what wins the Democratic nomination.
March 5, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Barack "Who's Sane" Obama!
♪♪♪
March 5, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
HAHAHAHAHAH. I LOOOOVE IT.
March 5, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you are right. I need to take a step back. I'm not a fervent Obama supporter--I've not given him money and I did not vote for him--but Hillary has made me so mad with her statements about McCain having more experience, and under her logic, more right to be President, than Obama, that I just don't want to watch her anymore. So I am turning my cable news habit off for a while. After a period of breathing room, we're right back to the old politics of kill or be killed that makes me hate campaigns.
March 5, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
As long as you stop blogging, I am fine with that.
:-)
March 5, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
That was my first blog comment ever on this blog and nearly my first ever. Thanks for the warm welcome.
March 5, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
haha...anytime!
Seriously, though, this post and all my comments were all in good fun. You should, in fact, never take anything I say seriously.
Unless I'm being serious, of course. But in this case, I wasn't.
Really, once you get to know me, you'll see -- I'm very charming.
And if you saw my comment elsewhere on this post, I am a big fan of blogging and bloggers, and I wholeheartedly encourage you to keep commenting, and keep blogging.
(That's me being completely serious, in case it's unclear.)
March 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Note: If I haven't driven ariehl from blogging forever, if you see him/her on another post, kindly direct him/her to my comment above.
Thank you.
March 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
That, sir, is a sexist insult. May I challenge you to a duel?
March 5, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unlike baseball, there IS crying in politics.
March 5, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know, a Hollywood screenwriter might think there's no crying in baseball... But I remember Vin Scully doing a great commentary one Dodger game about how there very much is crying in baseball, with many illustrations (in that Scully way).
March 6, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. Both candidates' supporters should just shut up and let Rahm Emmanuel pick the Democratic candidate.
Seriously though, we are on the verge of seeing the first woman or the first non-white President in our history. Why shouldn't the process be a difficult one? Let it play out, and let the candidate with the most committed delegates at the end of the process be the nominee.
A drawn-out political fight between two excellent candidates, each with their own rabid group of supporters, is not going to destroy America. The majority of Americans is going to take a good look at John McCain (and his stated goal to prolong the Bush/Cheney presidency and all that it stands for) in November, and overwhlemingly vote for the Democratic candidate, no matter who it is.
March 5, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Both candidates' supporters should just shut up and let Rahm Emmanuel pick the Democratic candidate.
Wait -- I thought that was what's supposed to be happening.
Are you saying the voters have a say in this?
March 5, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hear hear! Now that's a sentiment I can drink to.
[clink]
(Just a sip, so just be quiet cscs. I'm on the East Coast, after all)
March 5, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I completely agree...both with the drinking, and that McCain won't beat either Dem.
March 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously though, we are on the verge of seeing the first woman or the first non-white President in our history.
Hmmmm. Apparently you are a hopeful and cheerful, if not delusional, commie atheist. Some of us cynical commie atheists have our doubts.
March 5, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are cynical commie atheists different from disgruntled commie atheists?
I am the latter. I just signed up, coincidentally.
March 5, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
We're closely affiliated. We're in the process now of ordering jackets. Instead of our names, the right breast will be decorated with the names of Marx, Engels, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.
March 5, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I want one.
Badly.
March 5, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why the right breast? Shouldn't it be so far to the left, that they're actually on the shoulder?
March 5, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a little bit like facing Hillary Clinton. What's on her left is actually over on the right.
March 5, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely.
An observation that political analysis/advocacy increasingly devolves into whiny, vindictive, accusatory spinning and one-upmanship?
We've got ourselves an expert!
Now there’s only one place to go from here: First, imply that you’re the sole individual to spot this malady. Then, make a broad-sweeping, whiny accusation that absolutely everyone involved in political analysis/advocacy is guilty of the egregious trend you’ve pinpointed. Next, demand that they stop. Anyone actually attempting to be perspicacious is quite obviously the heart of the problem.
March 5, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I had to look up perspicacious.
Yep, that's me.
In my next post, I certainly will be pinpointing who
But you got one thing wrong -- I never, ever make broad-sweeping statements. I have never done that, ever, in my entire life.
March 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. What satyr9us said.
This is a PERSPICACIOUS website. There should be no silliness here.
There. Have we put you in your place??
March 5, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. Thank you. I needed that.
March 5, 2008 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do you get when a white woman and a black man screw each other?
President McCain.
Is it knit one, perl two? I get confused.
March 5, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
WHY WON'T THE CLINTON'S RELEASE THEIR TAX RETURNS AND QUIT THE STONEWALLING ON THE RELEASE OF THEIR PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY RECORDS?
Hillary indicated to Tim Russert of MSNBC, in the last debate, she was "working on it". She then went on to blame Bush for holding up the progress of her ability to release the records of her time as first lady. Bush's press secretary responded the very next day, that Clinton has not yet turned them over to the administration?!
So, once again, the question.... WHY?
Hillary's cat and mouse game has run it's course. This speaks directly to her arrogance and credibility. It makes anyone with an ounce of sense, revisit the old Clinton baggage of Vince Foster, Whitewater and Lewinsky.
THE MEDIA NEEDS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! No more softball pandering to Hillary on this count.
March 5, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
sigh...
March 5, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you mean "SIGH!!!!"?
March 5, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
heh heh.
March 5, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
As Mel Blanc would say, "Si."
March 5, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh dear. Someone in desperate need of a sense of humor transplant. Sad, really.
March 5, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
I could trade him for a kidney.
Then again, perhaps he just needs his bilious humors drained. I'll get my leeches.
March 5, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, um, I think you missed the point of this blog post
You need a joke to follow your rant, something like "What color knitting needles do you recommend?" or something.
March 5, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Shigh, Remy, this isn't the thread for that (though I agree).
Since we're a bit meta on this thread, let's have a word about proper web-based internets etiquette. WHEN YOU TYPE IN ALL CAPS YOU COME OFF AS A SHRIEKING LOON!!!!!!!!!!
Also, when you dump the latest negative attack bulletin in a thread that has nothing to do with the point you're pushing, it's as if you're spamming. It makes one suspect that you're just pasting the same rant into many threads, sites. Like you're not trying to communicate or engage -- it's likely you won't even be back to respond to those who've responded.
It's bad enough to get this from Clinton/Nader/Paul/wingnut-bots. But when I see it coming from someone supposedly trying to help the guy I want to win, it's despairing.
You're not helping. You're being an ass. Knock it off.
March 5, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jeeze, now I gotta respond to myself. "I gotta agree" came out after a skim of Remy's rant. The tax record thing, sure, but Vince Foster?!? The last thing we need is to bring up baseless rumors dredged up from '90s Limbaugh tapes. This sort of post makes me suspect Republican moles in our midst.
March 5, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Never pay serious attention to someone who doesn't know how to use apostrophes.
March 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear Hear! A voice of reason! Enough with people exaggerating, over-interpreting, and all around hyperventilating at the slightest burp of a candidate. It's completely lame.
Save it for frakking McCain.
March 5, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
My default position is cynicism and despair, generally, but for some reason I'm in a good mood today. Probably won't last, though.
March 5, 2008 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's the spirit!
March 5, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
By the way, I thought Terry-Thomas was dead.
March 5, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know the crochet crowd gets a bad rap from the knitting crowd, I just wished the loonies from both of these extremist groups would stop getting all the airplay in the media!
March 5, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
The crochet crowd is a cult.
March 5, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
The knitting crowd and the crochet crowd are both in the pocket of Big Yarn.
Needlepoint rules.
March 5, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
As long as the silk isn't made anywhere near China.
I only want to give American worms the jobs.
March 5, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Naturally! American worms rule!
March 5, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
re the op: word.
March 5, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
TPM should stick to Investigative Reporting where it excells because it really sucks as a political site.
March 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you suggesting I am somehow affiliate with TPM?
For the record, I am not.
Yeah -- Josh only *wishes* he'd have me on his staff.
:-)
March 5, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
No Shi%! But none the less I like their efforts, it is just funny how both crowds complain about unfairness in coverage while drowning out the continued abuse of the US by GWB. God he is really smart, I betcha he knew that his ratings would improve as the Democratic race slogged on and on. Did you hear that GWB and John are going to have a jamboree with tents, marshmellow and weenies on the WH lawn with Larry, Tom, Dick and the gang tonight!
March 5, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I say let em have their weenies. We all need a weenie every now and then.
(Why do I get the feeling that last line's coming back around some day...?)
March 5, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK. This is where I've read up to now. When I come back I can find this post and know where to start reading again, except for the comments made in response to posts above ........oh, never mind!
March 5, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
i believe the republicans have been influencing our primary all along. they have stated they were voting for OBAMA because they thought he was the weaker candidate. if rush can make the 80% who have previously supported OBAMA switch sides to clinton that easily why do you think he lost last night. these same 80% will be voting for macain in the general election. don't be fooled to think republicans are NOT voting...they are but their numbers are boosting democratic turnout that WON’T be there in the general election. i still believe HILLARY has the majority of REAL democrats or people who really do plan to vote for a DEMOCRATIC nominee this fall.
Stop-Clinton movement takes root
“Obamacans,” as the campaign likes to call its Republican supporters, offer a variety of reasons for turning out for Obama, not the least of them a lack of interest in the Republican primary now that Sen. John McCain of Arizona has all but wrapped up his party’s nomination. Others say they genuinely think Obama is the best candidate for change.
But a significant proportion say they are temporarily backing Obama for strategic reasons. They plan to vote Republican in November, but for now, their goal is to try to make sure Clinton cannot win.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23394070/
March 5, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does Dennis Kucinich fit into this scheme of yours?
He, if you ask me, is the real troublemaker here.
March 5, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
His supporters were clearly the first to get out of the race.
March 6, 2008 7:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even the I don't like the tone of the Democratic race, Democracy, a good one, is always noisey.
March 5, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate knitting. I suggest all political junkies learn to sew, make pants suits for each candidate, and wait to see if any actually wear them.
March 5, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, fke! You got a deal. In fact I'LL wear a pantsuit too, along with all the other Democrats, as a show of solidarity.
But I have to insist, in another show of solidarity, that we all adopt the middle name "Hussein".
March 5, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry, but wearing pantsuits is where I draw the line.
I'm a loyal Democrat and all, but that will not happen.
I would maybe wear an ascot. It would actually look great with my latte. Or my merlot.
Riedel stemware, though. That's another line I draw.
March 5, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Anything, anything but your insistent and continual droning on and on about how perfect your candidate is."
Can I talk about how messed up my candidate's opponent is?
I'd wait to take up knitting until after the economic stimulus package goes through. Then we can take up loom weaving instead.
March 5, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only if you forgo mentioning their name, gender, and shoe size.
Guessing games are more fun.
March 5, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a great idea. From now on, we only post blogs that harp on our favorite candidates weak spots.
I'll go first:
Barack Obama -- he's way too awesome!!!
March 5, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
How am I supposed to guess anything?!
Not only did you name the candidate, you said "he."
Hopeless, just hopeless.....
Doh!
March 5, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ooops. I'll try again:
My candidate's problem is that [insert gender here] is WAY TOO AWESOME!!!
March 5, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kucinich's wife!
March 5, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't fool you... :-)
March 5, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Can I talk about how messed up my candidate's opponent is?"
NO! Not unless your candidate is Mike Huckabee.
March 5, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't knit. How dare you be so biased against me, cscs? What about those of us out there making kiddie crafts with our safety scissors??? What about the quilters, the bakers, the dreamers of dreams? Give me an Etsy shop or give me death!
March 5, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
"If I am elected President, I promise to fund a retraining program, for all Americans. To help build the kinds of skills America needs in the 21st Century.
Like knitting."
March 5, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's about time one of the candidates promised to do something useful!
March 5, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Knitting as a Revolutionary Act
March 5, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Knitters of the world, unite?
March 5, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Teh funny, cscs.
March 5, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, Emma. All in good fun...
March 5, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Say goodbye to the ball!
March 5, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Ma creme would be a more acceptable hobby for such liberal minded thinkers as ourselves. it requires the use of hemp,a natural fiber, to create a variety of useful and beautiful plant hangers, hanging tables and even hanging chairs.
Any thoughts?
March 5, 2008 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ma creme?
Was she a character on the Beverly Hillbillies?
Ohhhhhh....macrame!
Yes! I agree!
:-)
Eh, and what was that about hemp???
March 5, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought that was how it was spelled but my spellcheck told me different. Additionally, my on line dictionary, courtesy of Firefox, gave me the spelling and definition, but i will defer to your knowledge in such matters.
March 5, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, *my* Firefox plug-in said I was right. So there. :-)
(I use M-W's, and I found the word there...no idea how it's supposed to be spelled, actually...)
March 5, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I agree. I just decided to join a Buddhist monastery. Then I will defrock after Obama wins the nomination. See ya. But...how will I know? Never mind.
March 5, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does the vow of silence include blogging? Not sure where the monastery stands on Web 2.0 these days...
March 5, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe it would be acceptable if it were in prayer form.
March 5, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
The monastery is such a pushover these days...
March 5, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, that damn secularization of the United States. Too bad Huckabee dropped out. We need a moral compass here. Plus, my bass player keeps flaking out on me when my band practices.
March 5, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has he tried Head and Shoulders?
March 6, 2008 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Loved this post. Came back late, just to read the comments. Thanks cscs for the laugh.
(And I'm glad to see you back--after the "improvements" to TPM, it seemed that a lot of people were gone--me included. I couldn't get on for the longest time.)
(Or maybe I was inadvertently banned, and didn't know it. Can you be banned if you don't know that you're banned?)
March 5, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe it was double secret probation.
March 5, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. Glad you're back, too.
I've definitely been posting/commenting much less, though. Today, just woke up and felt like writing, I guess.
We're also hanging out at another site, if you haven't seen (the URL is around, or just let me know if you can't find it). Spending time there while TPM and their developers are putting the pieces of the puzzle together. The Cafe is not at all as usable as it was. The other site's a pleasure, good for long, drawn out, meaningless conversations about incredibly important things.
March 5, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
That would be the super secret double ban.
We all are.....
Shhhhhhhhhhhh
March 5, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now, this is funny!
March 5, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. It's good we take a break from the seriousness of it all sometimes.
March 5, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Frankly - the future of this Republic is actually engagement and participation - which had been sadly lacking for decades. So I'll take & be annoying - over the apathy that was an embarrassment to the world's wealthiest, most powerful democracies.
March 5, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just have to say that outside of the original post, this:
is still making me giggle...And no, don't know the URL.
March 5, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.projectlucidity.com/forum
or
http://forum.projectlucidity.com
March 5, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read somewhere that TPM won a Polk award. That’s Polk, not Poke. This silliness is distracting me from blogging on an important issue. I am concerned that the Democrats can loose this election if they have re-votes in Florida and Michigan and then every other state demands a revote and the Democratic primary runs into 2009. I need time to think.
(Andand thankthank youyou CSCS.)
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March 5, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
In perhaps a strange funny irony, I just happened to notice the name of the award you mentioned TPM receiving. It was a Polk Award? Isn't that the same award that Bill O'Reilly won and tried to pass off as a Peabody Award when Al Franken called him on it? I am pretty sure it was a Polk.
Too Funny.
March 5, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can’t support the premise of this hypocritical thread or the perfidious anti-blogging tyrant CSCS who is trying to leverage the dubious practice of reading micro-trends to disingenuously delegitimize supporters of political chatter regardless of their politics. Clearly, there is a site-wide pro-blogging movement at hand and CSCS’ claims that only whining Clinton supporters and whining Obama supporters count when it comes to determining the all-important momentum required to actually win the final contest over political chatter is just more of the same old web politics of attacks and division. CSCS is fooling no one by attempting to associate non-blogging with such specious alternatives as knitting, when any patriotic web addict can tell you that the vast majority of polls will indicate that knitting is far more likely to cause carpal tunnel syndrome than typing.
Bloggers need to hang tough and not concede their obsessions to simple reason. We must type on all the way to August! Whining is the winning path to November and we will not be intimidated or fooled by the (tp)media elite who would use grammarianist smears over apostrophe usage to take our voices away! No, we will not be silenced!! DID YOU HEAR ME? DID YOU? HELLO? hello...?
March 5, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes.
By the way do you have a table of logarithms handy. I need the log of 29.63 so I can calculate how many delegates Obama got in one of the East Texas precincts. There may be a discrepancy in the count that needs whining.
March 5, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bravo!
March 6, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure this is all in good fun, but really there are some serious issues that need to be addressed by BOTH campaigns.... chief among them being the fact that I LIKE PIE.
There, I said it.
March 5, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink