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Looks like some of our folks slept in this morning.

Look at the later numbers at:
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/04/pennsylvania-primary-results.html

As of 9:31 it's down to 8.6%

40 densely populated Philly precincts still have not reported

The State of PA website was just updated:

CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM) 1,237,696 54.3%
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM) 1,043,174 45.7%

Looks like an 8 point win to me.

I'm math-disabled, so someone else will just have to figure all this out and tell me the bottom line.

:)

But it looks very much like she got a big ol' single digit lead on him. And that means she lost more thoroughly than she would have had she gotten a double digit lead on him.

Looks like the most up-to-date tally is here. They update if fairly regularly.

As of 10:40 the margin is 9.4% with only Philly and Delaware counties remaining to be counted.

The SoS just updated. The County of Lancaster's site was correct. It is 55%-45% (rounded).

This is all very confusing... now JMM is saying the AP and PA State numbers don't jive because they are both receiving numbers at a different rate.

Nevertheless the AP numbers should be trusted more???

I'm checking in later to see what's happening, but all I know is the margin is under 10% now, and should go down considering 40 Philly precincts still haven't reported. It'd be nice if JMM could get a little input as to what the problem is; what precincts we're waiting on; and approximately how many voters we're looking at.

Is that too much to ask ;)

It's because the media hates Hillary so much and is absolutely in love with Obama? Remember? That's what Hillary tells me at least....you mean...the media is going out of its way to overstate Hillary's win when she in fact cannot possibly win the nomination??

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/04/pennsylvania-results.html

NO WAY!!

I honestly think the Media's core focus is on making this race look as compelling as possible to maintain the ratings/hits bonanza this election has created for MSM and pol-websites like this. Check out the yearly data for Huff, TPM, and DailyKos here; there up 525%, 212%, and 193% respectively over the year. They all hope this primary will NEVER end.

They want it to be a horse race so more folks tune in, blog, etc., and Hill's losing now, so they need to bolster her tenuous position to make it look more exciting of a race than it actually is.

I KNOW this. As smart as everyone is here, I'm sure just about everyone KNOWS this... but the coverage still pisses me off to no end .....

It's clear the media and Hillary both need double digits to keep the horse race going. It's silly we're hashing the difference between 9.4 and 8.6.

I'm very glad to wake up to see that it's in the single digits, but I'm dismayed that this will keep going, and that the t.v. doesn't care it's in the single digits.

The revolution will not be televised.

Are you SERIOUSLY arguing % points?

I want to win the general. Obama or Hilary. That said, the "intense" Obama supporters are gonna make it a queasy moment if he's the choice.

Just updated at the PA website:

CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM) 1,238,232 54.6%
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM) 1,030,703 45.4%

Still holding at 9.2%

I'm starting to feel like I'm in one of the submarine movies, when the walls begin to pop and ping. "She's holdin' Cap'n!"

obama people stop crying like babies...

But according to the AP she's at 9.4% and not they have 99% of Philly precincts in.

"fraud" in a legal sense means concealment of a material fact. It is a fact they turned away registered democrats saying their name was not on the list (when in many circumstances it was).

In addition, many polling places were changed, and no new address made known. Many polling machines broken, and judge denied request to keep the polls open for an extra 2 hours. All this in a high black vote area.

Oh yeah, and check this out:

http://www.runhardmedia.com/hrc.jpg

Hmmm.... is something missing?

why is obama getting more than 90% of the black vote...

Reuters news isn't saying 10%. They're correctly stating, "With more than 99 percent of the vote counted, Clinton led Obama in Pennsylvania 54.6 percent to 45.4 percent, the state's elections division said."

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1931827220080423

I guess that's why I enjoy Reuters... For the most part.

...they are racist!

PA SoS latest update

9,219 out of 9,264 Districts (99.51%) Reporting Statewide

Clinton: 1,238,232 - 54.6%
Obama: 1,030,703 - 45.4%

That is a margin of 9.146537914% (i.e. 9.15%) which rounds to 9%

This post reflects in living color the current and perhaps short-term problems of the Obama campaign. The poster deserves no criticism; even Josh Marshall, while pretending that this is really a silly issue, makes sure to prominently display that, yes as a matter of math, 9.2 percent is not 10 percent.

Of course, the fact is while some folks write posts about the injustice of comparing 9 to 10, most people who are able to step back a step or two understand that Obama took a good ole' fashioned beating on Tuesday in Pennsylvania, and he spent record amounts of money and three times more than Hillary for the simple privilege of receiving that good ole' fashion beating.

I was never good at math, but I will posit that the key to the White House in November is not to rest on laurels shaped like mathematical equations. IMO the key to the White House for Obama is to keep winning so that America sees that he can take a punch, get off the mat and fight back.

My brothers and sisters on the Obama side, I promise I'm with you if he is the nominee; it is my solemn oath that I will work for him with vigor even if I still don't like him.

But right now, as we sit here today, the key is not the math; the real key to success is far more simple, and that is to win in the State of Indiana. Senator Obama does that and Hillary is toast. Now that's as simple as one plus one, and please feel free to remind this Hillary supporter that I wrote on April 24, 2008 that if Obama wins in Indiana he should be our nominee.

Is it counterintuitive to laugh at numbers-based arguments about whether this race is over? Perhaps, but welcome to politics--deal with it, move on and get in the game.