What Hillary Clinton And the Media Are Hiding From Voters (Re-do)
"What Hillary Clinton And The Media Are Hiding From Voters"
By Kathy Miller
While Senator Clinton is on the campaign trail telling reporters that the use of her opponents' 'bitter' remarks could damage Senator Obama's chances to win the general election if he should win the nomination, a California superior judge will soon be setting a trial date for the historic civil landmark case in Paul vs. Clinton.
Apparently the Clintons believe that the word 'bitter' is far more damaging than testify under oath in a civil fraud trial.
For some reason, the media doesn't think that a historic trial to haul a former President and a Presidential candidate to court for fraud is newsworthy.
A status conference hearing is scheduled for April 25, 2008, just three days after the Pennsylvania primary. California Superior Judge Aurelio N. Munoz is expected to finally set a trial date after delayment back in February.
Judge Munoz ruled back in February that Paul's legal team can begin seeking depositions from a host of big names – including Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton – that allegedly were witnesses to an effort by the Clintons and top Democratic leaders to extract millions of dollars from Paul in illegal donations and then cover it up. Discovery is expected to begin in May.
The Clintons have tried to dismiss the case, but the California Supreme Court, in 2004, upheld a lower-court decision to deny the motion.
The complaint says Bill Clinton promised to promote Paul's Internet entertainment company, Stan Lee Media, in exchange for stock, cash options and massive contributions to his wife's 2000 Senate campaign. Paul contends he was directed by the Clintons and Democratic Party leaders to produce, pay for and then join them in lying about footing the bill for an August 2000 Hollywood gala and fundraiser.
The Clintons' legal counsel has denied the former president made any deal with Paul. But Paul's attorney Colette Wilson has stated there are witnesses who say it was common knowledge at Stan Lee Media that Bill Clinton was preparing to be a rainmaker for the company after he left office.
Paul claims former Vice President Al Gore, former
Democratic Party chairman Ed Rendell and Clinton presidential campaign
chairman Terry McAuliffe also are among the people who can confirm Paul
engaged in the deal.
The complaint also asserts that Senator Clinton filed four false reports to the FEC of Paul's donations in an attempt to distance herself from him after a Washington Post story days after the August 2000 fundraiser reported his past felony convictions. Clinton then returned a check for $2,000, insisting it was the only money she had taken from Paul. But one month later, she demanded another $100,000, to be hidden in a state committee using untraceable securities.
Senator Clinton was dismissed from the case as a defendant, but Munoz already has made it clear he won't accept any attempts to block Senator Clinton from serving as a material witness. The judge told Clinton's lawyer David Kendall: "Well, any opposition is probably going to be dead on arrival, if that will – if you understand what I'm saying, Mr. Kendall."
Paul has outlined the entire case in a one hour documentary entitled, Hillary Uncensored, Banned by the Media. Paul believes the Clintons have thwarted the media from exposing this story, and he has set up a website called PaulvClinton to expose and inform the public of the latest news and information himself in the trial.
Perhaps voters should be 'bitter' that this story is not being reported by the mainstream media.
You can sign up on the website PaulvClinton to receive e-mails of the news in the trial as it happens.
Note: Peter Paul has passed a lie detector's test to prove he is not lying about hiring Bill Clinton to be a rainmaker for his company. Do you think Hillary or Bill Clinton would pass a lie dectector's test?
To verify this case: you can go to http: www.lasuperiorcourt.org
Choose Civil - then Case Summary - type in the Case Number BC304174





Hmm, who's surprised?
April 24, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is crap, Soy. Paul is a convicted con-man with zero cred. I don't care how angry you are at the Clintons for the campaign; this post promotes a smear against a Dem Senator and a former Dem President. Neither MSM nor TPM will touch the issue for good reason, and I commend them for it.
I urge readers not to recommend this post.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/crooked_claims_about_clinton.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/04/AR2005100401150.html
April 25, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
You and your perpetual snark. LOL.
April 25, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know, out of character. The Peter Paul stuff really pisses me off. This isn't the first time his B.S. has been peddled on TPM.
Also the Clinton hate is really flying though the roof lately. It's not even fun to snark her anymore. I could write "Clinton is a Soggy Cardboard Box", and people would recommend it because it sounds vaguely insulting. And some of the Obama supporters are starting to make Goatlife look fair-minded.
April 25, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe this is the flimsiest of the Hillary scandals. But lets concede no one knows the facts.
One reason I dont want to go down that road is there are many more ugly stories, some real and some not. She is not vetted, the MSM has not put them out there to judge like the crazy black man in a dashiki.
But there is at least "some" credibility here in that (a) her campaign manager did break the law, he was fined for under reporting the finances of the event in question (b) she accepted his money, and has not ever returned it and (c) He is friends with the maker of all Superheroes, Stan the Man Lee
April 25, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for providing the rest of the story, Genghis. I've heard Paul brought up here before (but nowhere else), and with no-one providing conflicting information, I took it to be mostly true. I suppose that proves that I trust the TPM community a little too much, but I'm used to untrue things (on either side) being effectively rebutted relatively quickly.
April 25, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe Bill would pass a lie detector test. The secret to passing a polygraph is to believe so thoroughly in your own spin that it is the same as the truth to you. I have lost THAT much faith in him.
April 24, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for this...I am wondering so if the media will report the story...So far they keep silent...
Do you think the media will break the news?
April 24, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow.
I had seen the site and was torn about whether it could be true or not. As much as the GOP should have pounced on this, I am thinking they are concentrating on Barack and hoping they would have this to use in the GE.
April 24, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is there any doubt that the MSM is in bed with the Clinton machine? You can bet the farm that if this situation was reversed it would be covered 24/7 by the media AND the Clintons. What the hell is going on here? This is fucking insane.
This pending trial could seriously affect Hillary's presidency if she is able to steal the nomination somehow. Here we go again, the Clinton dramarama, possibly on the people's time REDUX! This is a BIG TIME electibility issue for HRC!
Yet, the media goes on and on incessantly about Rev. Wright?!?! Where are the grown ups in this election cycle? Where are the responsible leaders?
I'm fed up!
April 24, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's almost as if our journalists are controlled by the rich and powerful... Ah, conspiracy theories!
April 24, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, like JFK, RFK and MLK all died at the hands of a crazed lone gunman. A little too ironic for for anyone with an ounce of sense.
April 25, 2008 12:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ha! Perfect!
April 25, 2008 12:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for the intervention, I was about to punch a hole in the wall!
April 25, 2008 12:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
People, pay attention. Paul is a convicted con-man. The dude is dirty, and this case is dirty. Do not let your anger at Hillary lead you to condone slimeball attacks on a Democratic Senator and a former Democratic President.
April 25, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. I've watched his so-called documentary and researched what little actual detail is available. It's basically hearsay. If there is anything to any of these allegations then he'll have to prove them in court. It doesn't seem to me that this is going to happen.
I think there are certainly times where major media outlets ignore stories for a variety of reasons, but sometimes they ignore them because there isn't really much of a story at all.
April 25, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the perspective -- I had been wondering about the verifiability of this case but was only able to confirm court and motion dates by reading the LA Superior Court info.
April 25, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
True, but they rarely ignore them simply because they aren't true. :)
That said, saying something untrue about someone who is very powerful might just get you in a little trouble.
April 25, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can follow a lot of Hillary news by Bookmarking the following site.
http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/4529/
April 25, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
In this case, I'm just a poster. You can decide for yourselves.
April 25, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do you mean you're just a poster? That's a responsibility dodge. You've posted an extremely sympathetic article to Paul, complete with links to his propaganda video and mailing list without offering a bit of analysis or criticism. Basically, you have promoted the propaganda of a con-man with a personal vendetta against the Clintons. If someone posted some smear against Obama and then wrote "I'm just a poster", you'd scream your friggin' head off.
In fact, I've see you regularly complaining about underhanded Clinton tactics and slime attacks. And yet here you are, promoting someone else's slime attacks against her. Some might call that hypocrisy.
April 25, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
When you look up "Hypocrisy" in the dictionary, you see Hillary motherfuckin' Clinton in a silk pantsuit smiling, eyes darting away from the camera.
That scumbag (clinton) has been throwing all kinds of slime and shit at Obama just to see if it sticks. Fuck it, let's see if this shit sticks for a change.
Rendell worshiping Farrakhan somehow didn't stick. You talk about hypocrisy?
Let's see if this shit sticks.
That's my newfound position.
Bring her floppy ass up on every charge in the damn book! Twice!
April 25, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a question,
Why the California Supreme court upheld the decision of the lower court, if there was not a case?
The point is that there seems to be an obvious double standard...
The media have no problem reporting the Razko, the Wright story, but yet do not mention this story, nor have mentioned anything about the previous Clinton's religious advisors...
Journalist should be independents and should educate people on the issues, and report stories if a fair way...
Since Pennsylvania, they have bashed Obama and indicating that he is not electable...
It is also clear that there will be a trial where the Clintons if anything will have to attend the trial, so in effect if anything it will create a problem...
April 25, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't like it when it's HEARSAY about hiLIARy?
April 25, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary also shot Vince Foster to cover up their affair!
Bill smuggled coke into Mena, Arkansas!
Really, just because you support Obama doesn't mean you have to sound like an American Spectator article from 1997.
April 25, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought "hiLIARy" was very clever and original. kriminil is a snark master.
April 25, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to agree with Psmdsfc on the issue of the California Supreme Court allowing the case to move forward, if there was no case.
Again, it appears the Clintons are trying to defuse their own guilt by shuffling their allegations of wrong doing toward Sen. Obama.
I chuckle at the thought of Hillary Clinton speaking about Obama's suppose link to the Weather Underground because he worked at a University that had hired a few individuals that were involved in criminal activities, years ago and prior to him knowing them; however, I do not hear Hillary Clinton talking about how her husband, as President, pardon two individuals that were part of the Weather Underground group.
I am sure her supporters will cry foul, but reality is reality, except when it involves the Clintons.
April 25, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hearsay or not, conman or not, it does put a dent on that electability meme.
April 25, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Refusing to dismiss a case does NOT indicate a court agrees with plaintiffs about a case's merit.
The move to dismiss is filed all the time, and rarely succeeds.
April 25, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary would be far to decent to touch this story if it were about Obama. She'd certainly refrain from repeating a smear against a current DEM senator and future DEM president. at least as far as I know.
April 25, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
also, Obama has to expose and explore every potential thing any potential eopponent muight someday say about Hillary to make sure that she's properly vetted for the general election. He'd be doing her a favor by pushing this story because it would give her the opportunity to show she can take a punch and counterpunch. Playing up this story would be like having a tea party compared to what the republican attack machine will do to her in the fall. So Obama's failure to seize on this story and flog it for everything it's worth is really just proof that he doesn't have what it takes to be president. Drop out now Obama!
April 25, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has a very different ethic motivating him than Clinton does. Obama's ethic is "you don't sucker punch your own sibling." So he's not trying to crush Clinton, to the extent that he could. Obama's camp, for instance, won't use Clinton's old scandals and baggage against her. Another example of this ethic was most evident in the last debate when Obama was asked to respond directly to Hillary's Bosnia LIE. Obama graciously said that all politicians are prone to make gaffes. From there he tried to pivot to the more substantial issues of the day -- the ones putting this country in the toilet. But Hillary, in all her ugliness, chose to twist the knife in his back on every single issue she could get her grimy hands on. She even made up shit. And she looked damned ugly doing it.
So, clown, obviously you are misreading Obama's M.O. and intentions and taking it for weakness.
He is trying to maintain restraint when dealing with Clinton, a fellow democrat, and instead take the hard fight to McCain.
What Obama doesn't get through, is that Hillary would rather campaign for McCain than chance losing fairly to Obama. She would rather risk destroying the Democratic party than losing fairly to Obama.
Hillary Clinton is a different kind of animal -- she is not ruled by ethics or any sense of decency. She is ruled by the mores of the jungle.
Finally, in the end, I would agree that Obama could hit her harder on various issues. But I understand full well that his choice NOT to, is not out of any weakness, but out of his inner core sense of restraint.
April 25, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
So while Barack takes the high road you would gladly take the low road?
In addition to the refutations offered here, I submit that the strength of the original post (which appears to be a reproduction of some sort of newsy piece) is undermined by the numerous typographical and grammatical errors.
While I wouldn't say Hillary has run an edifying campaign, neither side has a monopoly on virtue. This only serves to prove that point, although "silk pantsuit" and "floppy ass" are valuable contributions to the discussion. You are obviously a serious thinker.
April 25, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and instead of Obama dropping out, I think your brain did.
April 25, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Satire, BS. You just angrily responded to a some clever Hillary snark. You should run with that brain dropping out line, though. I think it's got potential.
April 25, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, are you serious???
April 30, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink