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Disenfranchisement: an Old Obama Trick


Obama has a little pattern going on.  
A little trick that served him well in the corrupt gloom of the ghetto, that he is rooted in.  South Side Chicago.  Bleak with hopelessness.  And smells that cling like street sewage on those who claw their way above it by whatever wiles they can devise.  
The disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan voters should be of no surprise to anyone familiar with the Obama way of doing business. 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html

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But, you're the one that calls yourself a slumlord.

Why don't you have compassion for the poor?


That whole deal about "present" votes is hogwash. Do your homework. Voting "present" in Illinois politics is a strategic choice that works quite well there. If you were also to check other successful Illinois state senator votes, you would find it to be a common practice. The idea is to get your bills passed, to support other bills that you want passed and to keep the bad guys from getting their bills passed. Voting "present" is one of the tools in the tool box in Illinois state politics. This is a red herring.

That whole deal about "present" votes is hogwash. Do your homework. Voting "present" in Illinois politics is a strategic choice that works quite well there. If you were also to check other successful Illinois state senator votes, you would find it to be a common practice.

And here I thought Obama would have led the charge to eliminate the possibility of 'vosting present' and force elected officials to...you know...make a decision. But I guess he's happy with the same old politics as usual.

I looked up your link. Here's the money quote:

As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers... Obama's challenge was perfectly legal.... "To my mind, we were just abiding by the rules that had been set up," the senator is quoted as saying in the Tribune. "My conclusion was that if you couldn't run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be."
I know some people will be upset that Obama played hardball on adhering to the rules, but this story just shows me that he is willing to play hardball, but not just to win, but for principles.

Alice Palmer did a colossal favor for Obama.
She took the young man under her wing, and let HIM hold her senate seat while she ran for Congress.
And when she ran to get it back, he repaid the favor by fucking her in the ass royally.

I would like to thank slummy for posting the url. I'll even linkify it for him:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html

Anyone who says Obama isn't able to play hardball politics when he needs to should read the article. And notice that he played hardball politics within the rules. He didn't try to change the rules when the rules didn't suit him, he just worked within the rules to win. Tough and smart.

And that quote about "if you couldn't run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be" is right on the money. The same goes for any candidate who can't manage a nomination campaign competently, can't pick good advisors and cut loose the bad ones, can't keep the campaign out of debt, etc.

Ah, they crawl out of the shadows, tonight...knowing they have less than a week left.

Carry on.

The South Side of Chicago isn't a ghetto, a$$hole.

Take your idiocy and crawl back under the rock from whence you came.

Live Frankly

I lived in Chicago, and it is the scariest place on the planet.
Dirtwad.

And I am from Chicago and you don't know $hit. Hyde Park? Beverly Hills? Multimillion dollar homes.

Every major city has it's slums but to say the entire South Side is a ghetto is nothing but bull$hit. Sorry.

If you think Chicago, South Side or otherwise, is the scariest place on the planet, you've lived a very sheltered life.

The flowery prose of 'Present's anti-Obama screed should be read with Stevie Wonder's 'Livin for the City' cranked up on the stereo.

Obama was able to successfully bump his challenger, Palmer, from running against him because her campaign hired petition signature gatherers who collected money and then took turns signing the petition themselves. Challenges to the petitions were in order, and perfectly legal. If she wasn't hurrying after losing a US congressional race to try to get her petition in at the last minute, she would not have been dumped from the ballot. It isn't Obama's fault that his challengers didn't do legitimate petition drives - but you can call that 'disenfranchisement' in your little world if you like. I don't - I call it playing by the rules. Ballot petitions are supposed to be supported and signed by real people, not campaign flaks taking pay to forge signatures - that is you know, against the law and all.

To the poster, get your information right. Palmer lost her Congress bid and then changed her mind to take back her seat and by then Obama had already started raising money and his campaign.

Palmer was not fair to Obama by changing the rules in the middle of the game (sound familiar?).

And as far as those petitions go, his opponents did not achieve the number or had names like "John Doe, Jane Does, Squirt, Scout" which were clearly cheats.

Obama rose in the Chicago way, so in a way that's a good thing, he knows how to be tough when he has to be.

OBAMA 08

Obama has shown that he can learn the rules and abide by the rules.

Hillary's national campaign co chair is in Florida, and the Gov and former Gov of Michigan are key Hillary supporters.

Its no surprise that they would break the rules in order to try to game the system for Hillary.

Florida is really a bad place for Dems, consider that Clinton campaign co chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz has protected the seats of hard core republican congressmen in Florida.

I just want to let everybody know, for historical reference, that May 30 was the day Joan of Arc was burned at the stake.

I just automatically think of May 30 as Joan of Arc Burning on a Stake Day, in case that ever pops up in conversation and it seems inexplicable or inappropriate to you.

That's just how I remember it's May 30.

So don't freak out or make a big deal out of it if I bring it up.

Hey maybe his grandfather/uncle/next door neighbor's 3rd cousin twice removed really did liberate Auschwitz:

Elections in the USSR

...voters formally had the right to vote for or against the unopposed candidate...see Elections in the USSR

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