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Media Ignores McCain's 600 lb Mental Elephant
As many of you have previously read, my favorite blog is The Carpetbagger Report by Steve Benen. I love that blog not only because Steve does a fantastic job of putting together some very insightful posts, but the commenters there are amazing! That is one community I am proud to be a part of.
One comment caught my eye and I wanted to pass it along. This is from McSwin on McCain's mental health and PTSD:
Has anyone else noticed that every president (that I can remember, baring Reagan) who has served, their hair turned to gray by the time they left office? Even Bush, who is the least working president in history, who sleeps like a baby, who has no cares or concerns, HIS hair has turned gray. How much of that is normal aging vs. the stress of being the most powerful person in the world?
Journalists, please allow me to give YOU something to chew on:
What are the physical and mental strains associated with running this country? Why are we not discussing that?
Why are we not discussing those 1400 pages of medical reports that McCain allowed journalists to fondle yet not record in any way (two hours, on a Friday afternoon, with no cameras, phones or notes allowed)?
Why is it not being discussed that those 1400 pages were not his complete records? What is in the rest? Hell, what is in those 1400 pages?
Why is there no journalistic curiosity about the pressures of being POTUS and the need for one to be healthy?
Thank you, McSwin for an incredibly insightful comment.
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One comment caught my eye and I wanted to pass it along. This is from McSwin on McCain's mental health and PTSD:
Many voters are concerned about John McCain’s age and health. Many wonder, and mainstream media refuses to ask, if John McCain suffers from PTSD from his the five years of captivity, including three years in solitary and torture so extreme that, as he put it, “broke” him to the point he attempted suicide several times.Food for thought? If we had a media doing its' job, we might actually be having a conversation about this. We might be having conversations about what it takes to be president.
Google the news section for ‘mccain ptsd’ and you will see zero articles from mainstream media pondering this question.
Google the news for ‘mccain mole and you will see over 600 mainstream media articles about a simple mole removal.
One of the most important considerations with regard to medical predictions of future PTSD, is how the initial trauma was dealt with:
In 1999, Dr. Michael M. Ambrose, director of the Robert E. Mitchell Center for Prisoner of War Studies, was contacted by John McCain to conduct a mental health review. The quality of the review is a matter of dispute as some say Dr. Ambrose did a full medical exam of the patient and others say the doctor only reviewed McCain’s old medical records.
After the evaluation was completed, John McCain’s 1999 campaign released a statement by Dr. Ambrose, which stated:
“McCain has never been diagnosed with or treated at the center for a psychological or psychiatric disorder (The term PTSD first appeared in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders in 1980, years after John McCain’s initial military medical evaluations). He has been subject to an extensive battery of psychological tests and following his last examination in 1993, we judged him to be in good physical and mental health.”
The McCain campaign press release included a statement by Dr. Ambrose, which reveals John McCain created a fantasy world in order to escape the reality of captivity and torture. They further stated McCain always heard the guards coming with his food, but “was often so much in his private world, that he strongly resented their coming around and bringing him back to reality by intruding. He was enjoying his fantasies so much.”
“findings suggest that it is less what happens at the time of a trauma (e.g., disrupted encoding) that predicts PTSD than what occurs thereafter (i.e., persistent avoidance).” [John Briere, Ph.D., Catherine Scott, M.D., and Frank Weathers, Ph.D.]
The keyword here is ‘persistent avoidance’ which was evidenced by the findings of Dr. Ambrose.
“The presence of dissociative symptoms soon after exposure to trauma has been found to predict the subsequent development of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)” [Gary Tucker, MD, Published in Journal Watch Psychiatry October 9, 2002]
“The amount of dissociation that follows directly after a trauma predicts PTSD” [American Psychiatric Association]
“Individuals that are more likely to dissociate during a traumatic event are considerably more likely to develop chronic PTSD” [Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (1998). Memory, Trauma Treatment, And the Law.]
“In several studies, dissociation at the time of a trauma (peritraumatic dissociation) has been found to predict symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder at follow-up assessments’ [Michael W. Otto, PhD, Published in Journal Watch Psychiatry July 21, 2005]
” early numbing contributed to the prediction of later PTSD” [Center for the Treatment and Study of Anxiety, Psychiatry Department, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine]
“Peritraumatic dissociation is frequently considered to be a risk factor for Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)” [Doris C. Breh PhD, Department of Psychotraumatology, Psychosomatic University Hospital Heidelberg, Heidelberg, Germany]
Ambrose later told the Associated Press “He had a very healthy way of dealing with his experiences.” One of the examiners even noted that McCain had improved his ability to control his infamous temper due to his years of torture and captivity.
Anyone familiar with Workers’ Compensation or personal injury cases understands full well you can pull the right strings or pay a ‘company’ doctor to say anything necessary to help your client.
It is worth noting the 1999 McCain campaign only released a small number of redacted medical records, the pages were not allowed to be photocopied and only a few select news organizations were privy to what few medical records were made available under these conditions.
John McCain has a consistent history of out of control outbursts of anger and even admits an adverse reaction to the sound of jangling keys. Author Robert Timberg, who McCain has said “knows more about me than I do,” calls these episodes “an eruption of temper out of all proportion to the provocation” and says they are a result of Vietnam coming “back to haunt him.”
VA studies have shown time and again that POWs suffer a much higher risk of developing PTSD than combat veterans. Even so, to this date, mainstream media still has not pushed for full disclosure of John McCain’s military medical records and refuses to ask the one simple question:
‘Is John McCain emotionally fit for the most stressful job in our country, the Office of President of the United States, our Commander in Chief?”
Journalists have a choice. They can continue to tiptoe around the elephant in the room, put a politician before country, violate the spirit of journalism and ignore the ethics that bind them, or they can do their job.
Has anyone else noticed that every president (that I can remember, baring Reagan) who has served, their hair turned to gray by the time they left office? Even Bush, who is the least working president in history, who sleeps like a baby, who has no cares or concerns, HIS hair has turned gray. How much of that is normal aging vs. the stress of being the most powerful person in the world?
Journalists, please allow me to give YOU something to chew on:
What are the physical and mental strains associated with running this country? Why are we not discussing that?
Why are we not discussing those 1400 pages of medical reports that McCain allowed journalists to fondle yet not record in any way (two hours, on a Friday afternoon, with no cameras, phones or notes allowed)?
Why is it not being discussed that those 1400 pages were not his complete records? What is in the rest? Hell, what is in those 1400 pages?
Why is there no journalistic curiosity about the pressures of being POTUS and the need for one to be healthy?
Thank you, McSwin for an incredibly insightful comment.
Visit The Carpetbagger Report and TheZoo for your daily dose of reality.
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Thank you, MsJoanne, for posting this here; most definitely food-for-thought.
I have more than a nodding acquaintance with PTSD, so not all the related info came as a surprise. What was of particular interest to me were the specifics to McCain's likely situation -- specifically the disturbing disassociation vis-a-vis the jangling of keys...
Can you imagine the man sitting down to a high-level (read: high-stress) diplomatic meeting wherein his opponent begins absent-mindedly jangling his keychain???
August 1, 2008 12:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Obama needs to do this during a televised debate. Might prove interesting.
August 1, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Slimy piece, made cheesier by the request to recommend.
I hate the age discrimination--now coupled with a PTSD diagnosis from afar--pseudo-scientific trash being perpetuated by people on the alleged left who should know better. And I think it's going to backfire politically, except within the circle jerk of folks who are convinced about Obama already. Rule number 1 in politics: older people vote (and I bet my 77-year old Dad is at least as aware about this election as the youthful Ms. Joanne). Can you say Florida?
Here's why I support Senator Obama. He is far more likely to be accountable on issues of importance to working class Americans, beginning in my repetoire with the Employee Free Choice Act. His indisputable inexperience is ultimately outshined by the unbridled enthusiasm he has generated in young people and the African American community. I am one white liberal who has no trouble sticking his jaw out and confessing his enthusiasm for the notion that an African American just might be elected president of the United States. There is something fundamentally good about that prospect in so many ways.
I love to juxtapose the positives that my voting age kids display in support of the Senator, with the gibberish (in this case unfounded and mean-spirited speculation about a candidate's mental faculties) that the Karl Rovian wannabes on the alleged left like Ms. Joanne seem to dabble in for the purpose of receiving recommendations or otherwise. My 18-year old son, an avid Obama supporter from the start, is starting a myspace group of young voters like himself who are dedicated to convincing their grandparents to pull the lever for Senator Obama. Perhaps you could learn from him Ms. Joanne if you were really interested in electing Senator Obama.
August 1, 2008 7:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Having concerns about a limitations related to their age is not the same as age descrimination. John McCain is constantly getting things mixed up. Christ! A week ago he talked about Czechoslovakia! I am 60 and I find myself doing similar things. Once you get into your 80th decade, the synapses don't get better; they get worse. This guy hasn't even bothered to learn to use a computer. He has the same level of curiosity as George Bush --> none. Yes, his age is a factor with me. I also wouldn't want my son, who is 18 to be president; he is too young. Is that age descrimination?
As to the PTSD; if he has it, he has done a pretty good job of coping with it, outside of the anger managment, which he has NOT done well with. I think he is often medicated for interviews; he seems dull and listless; he immediately smiles when given a (rare) challenging question -- I'm sure that is practiced and practiced.
Glad you're supporting Obama. I disagree with you that McCain's mental and intellectual health are not issues of concern in this election. After all, Reagan was suffering from Alzheimers before he left office, remember? He said some pretty stupid things too.
August 1, 2008 8:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Should read: Having concerns about A PERSON'S limitations....
August 1, 2008 8:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree. If it is so important, such a critical issue, why then is not the Obama campaign making an issue of it (other than by timed and humorous allusions to his temper and stuff, or as Chris Matthews put it, by promoting the comparison of McCain with Mr. Wilson in Dennis the Menace)? Moreover, do Obama's inevitable campaign gaffes make his mental faculties suspect--e.g. 57 states--an appropriate target? Of course not. It's all about McCain's age and, in this case, the additional brilliant attack in a political sense that McCain was a tortured American prisoner of war.
Dunno, maybe it will come down to this kind of stuff because of the tightness of the race in November. Sad, but if we're going there and I do want to win and I'm not going to be naive, but if we do go down this path I'm not going to be silent about it either. I just hope we're not going to destroy the village in order to save it.
August 1, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's not that all public speaks makes gaffes. It's that John McCain will go to all edges of reason to try to argue with himself about what he meant. THAT's what I'm talkin' 'bout.
August 1, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Error: "It's not that all public speaks makes gaffes" s/b "It's not that all public speakers makes gaffes"....sorry
August 1, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm standing right next to ya, jaw sticking out and fists clenched tight with idealistic anger.
If readiness is the issue - readiness includes: physical health, mental health, experience, leadership, integrity, maturity, stability, etc.
PTSD is a very serious and debilitating condition.
August 1, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have concerns about McCain's fitness for command based on his behavior lately. However, while I don't think PTSD should be a major campaign issue, it IS something to consider among all the issues. Eagleton was struck from contention for lesser psychiatric issues once upon a time, and you can bet that if someone on the Democratic side were running and had this history, the Repubs would be all over it.
However, I agree that it's not an issue that the Obama campaign should stress, post traumatically or otherwise. It's something that can backfire, even if true.
I'm also against ageism, but I think McCain's age speaks for itself. My father, at 90, is sharper than McCain is now. It's not chronological age. It's the flexibility and the acuity of the mind. McCain was never the top of the class, by his own admission, and I think the years have not been kind to him on some fronts. This isn't discrimination against him, it's just a very real consideration, along with many others, for whether he really is fit to occupy the Oval Office.
August 1, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
This was, as stated, food for thought. And I don't think it's sleazy in the least considering how McCain has been running his campaign over the last few months.
Constant flip flops, to the point that I don't think he knows his positions.
Not knowing what he voted for or against.
The lies and deceit.
I think it is a valid query.
I also think it is valid to question his overall health.
And, I ALWAYS ask for a recommend should someone feel it is worthwhile.
Don't like that? Tough!
August 1, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
As an addendum; at what point did I say that the Obama campaign should ask these questions? What is the title of this piece? MEDIA ignores....
This has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with the media not doing its job as alleged Fourth Estate.
No matter how you slice it, this IS a 600 lb gorilla (or, for the GOP, elephant) in the room. The office of POTUS is not something for someone who is not 100% physically and mentally healthy.
How on earth is THAT slimy?
August 1, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're spot on about McCain's mental status. I read an article in the Veteran's Dispatch (or something like that) which pointed out McCain's suicide attempt(s) while a POW. More importantly it discussed his 1990's reaction to his captors--the North Vietnamese. Apparently, he welcomed them with open arms and even gave Col. Bui Tin, who had interrogated McCain, a big bear hug. Stockholm Syndrome is when a prisoner bonds with his abuser.
I won't even start with the humiliating way he treated Delores Apodaca Alfond(chairwoman of the National Alliance of POW/MIA Families). I posted the youtube video of it here once upon a time. He had her in tear, accusing her of all this disrespect she was showing him and come to find out it was all bullshit--he'd either made it all up OR he wasn't able to comprehend her words.
I think this is an extremely important subject and sadly know that it will not be brought up in the MSM unless he blows up in public.
The sad thing is, is that there are PTSD patients that lead normal lives as long as they are receiving therapy. I wouldn't hold one damn thing against McCain if I knew he was being treated but it scares me to death to think he may be a walking time bomb.
August 1, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
i understand the media's lack of pursuit on sen. mccain's history save for the mentioned that he was a p.o.w., and i want to note that i believe that is the undertone of the comment that ms joanne placed here on tpm.
however, i don't think it serves sen. obama or his campaign very well to push *this* discussion. i think that it will continue to highlight his p.o.w. experiences which plays right into mccain's narrative of "sacrifice" and "country first". additionally, do we really think that your average american is equipped to have a serious discussion on the long term effects of ptsd? i'm not saying that the american public is stupid, but the people that you are trying to convince might not want to stick around long enough to hear the point of the argument.
the mainstream media can do due diligence and pursue plenty of mccain misteps and mistatements during this campaign and in his years of public service enough to shed light on the senior senator from arizona without having to keep repeating that he was a p.o.w. in vietnam. after all, for our intents and purposes, we would rather have the media talk about how much mccain embraced president bush after he humiliated him 8 years ago than how mccain has managed to be elected to the u.s. senate, and run for president while possibly being a survivor of ptsd.
August 1, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
What mainstream media are you talking about? Due diligence? Discussing how he embraced Bush after the humiliation? Are you joking?
The media that I am used to just repeats what someone said, and then has experts opine about whether they agree with it or not. Doesn't matter if it is just rumor or even a misquote.
Rather than actually analyze candidate's positions, they quote and then parse everyone's opinion (regardless of how uninformed that opinion might be) of it.
It would be deadly for the Obama camp to bring up ptsd, but evidence of McCain's bad judgement, and his tendency to see everything in military terms are fair game. I think that McCain's obvious desire to make up for our loss in Vietnam by finally, unequivocally "winning one" should be a point to persue. How many more people should die to give John McCain closure about Vietnam? If not Obama, then Moveon.org, or someone!
August 1, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed!. The Media today doesn't question anything. They just comment on it. So if we said John McCain might have PTSD they wouldn't say "oh you know we should look into this" they would invite a Republican ex-POW McCain supporter to refute and a psychologist who was a liberal democrat to affirm. They wouldn't say let's see the records and the situation. See how it works?
August 27, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yup, Yup.
Unless that media was a certain segment reporting this like Countdown with Keith Olbermann.
September 1, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know if anyone saw this, but Farai Chideya from NPR was on Race to the White House on MSNBC awhile ago and she discussed this very subject. She announced her headline as the results of the investigation into whether McCain had PTSD would be a big story in the coming days. The rest of the panel was silent, didn't ask a follow up question, and she was never seen on the show again. I don't know what happened to the report or if it ever saw the light of day.
August 31, 2008 4:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good Morning America had a segment a while back about how the presidency ages people. They said its effect was 2 years of aging for every year in office. 4 years = 8 years of aging. They even had photos doctored showing the aging faces of Senators Clinton, Obama, and McCain.
As for PTSD (speaking as a person who has PTSD and who has been in therapy groups with dozens of people who have PTSD), PTSD is not a 24/7 disorder. That is, the symptoms generally come and go. We have our good days and our bad days. As you progress through treatment, the bad days become fewer and fewer, especially as you learn your individual "triggers" and how to cope with them.
I am NOT saying that McCain has, or ever had, PTSD. Just an FYI for people unfamiliar with the disorder. If you want to hide it from a doctor, that's very easy to do.
What is interesting to me is that the released statement only said that McCain "has never been diagnosed with or treated for PTSD." That does not say he does not have, or never had, PTSD.
Many, many individuals who have mental health disorders choose to be treated privately and pay for it themselves even when they have insurance. They know the disclosure of a mental illness can have a negative impact on future employment so they keep it off their medical records by seeking private, self-pay care, sometimes under an assumed name - no problem when you're paying cash.
I'm sure you'll also hear from veterans that it's not uncommon to hide a mental health problem so that it doesn't affect one's career.
Again, I'm NOT saying McCain has, or ever had, PTSD. Even if MSM wanted to ask the question, they know he'd just say "no" and there's no way to prove otherwise. It's very possible that only McCain, his ex-wife, and Cindy know for sure one way or the other and each would vehemently deny it.
September 2, 2008 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink