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Russia Invades Georgia while Bush Frolics in Beijing
Bush and his democracy promoting cohorts are silent as Russia invades the pro-American state of Georgia. link
Silence on TPM (or just the usual political navel gazing) as we witness the repetition of the Russian invasion of Hungary in 1956. Does anyone doubt that this is appeasement of the worst kind by the Bush administration? Bush visited Tbilisi in 2005 and lavished praise on its leaders, the man is a coward and a disgrace.
A Georgian soldier says: “We killed as many of them as we could,” he said. “But where are our friends?”
It was the question of the day. As Russian forces massed Sunday on two fronts, Georgians were heading south with whatever they could carry. When they met Western journalists, they all said the same thing: Where is the United States? link
Silence on TPM (or just the usual political navel gazing) as we witness the repetition of the Russian invasion of Hungary in 1956. Does anyone doubt that this is appeasement of the worst kind by the Bush administration? Bush visited Tbilisi in 2005 and lavished praise on its leaders, the man is a coward and a disgrace.
A Georgian soldier says: “We killed as many of them as we could,” he said. “But where are our friends?”
It was the question of the day. As Russian forces massed Sunday on two fronts, Georgians were heading south with whatever they could carry. When they met Western journalists, they all said the same thing: Where is the United States? link
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Even if we wanted to do something, we couldn't.. the short-sighted neo-cons have our combat-ready forces all tied down in quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan. We don't have enough left over to help anybody.
August 11, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even if we wanted to do something, we couldn't
A real leader would do the following (can anyone but the trolls imagine a President Obama amusing himself at the Olympics for days on end with two ongoing wars and a Russian invasion of a sovereign nation?):
(1) Announce he is leaving the Olympics to consult with his National Security staff on the issue.
(2) Hold a White House press conference to draw the world's attention to the plight of the people in the area.
(3) Send diplomatic staff to the capital of Georgia to assess the situation.
(4) Other diplomatic steps with NATO allies support.
August 11, 2008 1:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
And who oversaw the 50% reduction of US force strength ? That would be Clinton, remember the 'peace dividend'? So now you whine we don't have enough troops, which is also why Iraq was such a mess.
But I do fault Bush for doing nothing, it is a disgrace. He should have sent troops immediately to protect the population of Georgia and warned Russia that invading Georgian territory will put them into conflict with US troops directly.
August 11, 2008 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dog,
Your troll post almost sounds earnest. You can't be serious that you hold Bill Clinton responsible for the state of our armed forces today. BUSH has been the president for nearly a decade!
One of the most damning characteristics of Republicans is their inability to accept responsibility for their actions. Its positively juvenile and helps to explain why Republicans are so terrible at leadership. So much, for for being the party of personal responsibility.
As for the Iraq war, even you must now admit, was a war of choice, not a war because Iraq was an imminent threat to us. So, BUSH decided the timing of the Iraq war, and therefore must have deemed our military preparedness to be sufficient.
August 11, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Russia’s moves . . . set the stage for an intense diplomatic confrontation with the United States. New York Times 8/11/2008
And in this corner wearing top hat and tails is . . . .
August 11, 2008 2:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
George Bush does indeed look ineffectual, sticking around in Beijing to watch water polo while Vladimir Putin zips back to Russia to take direct command of the troops heading into South Ossetia.
But that's because Putin knows he has a vital strategic interest of his country at stake, while Bush has just the fading, chimeric image of an imperium americanum -- without the assets to back it up.
One hopes the Russians don't overplay their hand. But even if they do, no one is going to stop them.
Not the U.S., not the Europeans.
Certainly not the Georgians.
Right now, they are saying Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili "must go."
American UN envoy Zalmay Khalilzad is whining that the Russian position constitutes "regime change."
Gander, meet goose.
Actually, Saakashvili's departure isn't such a bad idea.
Condi Rice was there last month to discuss the U.S. retraining of his military and his bid to join NATO.
I'm sure whatever else she said, the first words out of her mouth were: "Whatever you do, don't poke the Russians in the eye." And what does Saakashvili do?
Right now, the U.S. goal should be to stop the slaughter, and restore as much of the status quo as possible (although Georgia has blown any chance of reintegrating South Ossetia or Abkhazia into some federal framework).
But that's not what the State Department is doing.
Rice is drawing up Security Council resolutions that blame Russia for starting the conflict.
Hello, Condi. Russia has a Security Council veto. You are subsituting cover-your-ass PR for positive action.
Let's be clear: the Russians aren't the noble-minded defenders of the South Ossetians here; those 70,000 shepherds, smugglers and subsistence farmers are mere pawns in the Great Game, and the Russians would sacrifice them without a qualm.
Same for those other Georgian separatists, the Abkhaz.
But there's more than enough hypocrisy to go around. Russia supports independence for Georgia's South Ossetians but has never offered it to the much more numerous North Ossetians who live within Russia.
Not to mention Chechnya.
The U.S., NATO and EU insist that Georgia's territorial integrity must remain inviolate, while they sanctimoniously defend their dismemberment first of Yugoslavia, then of Serbia.
Russia warned at the time that whatever principle applied to Kosovo must apply to the Georgia ethnic enclaves of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The western response: STFU.
The media are spinning the Russian response in Georgis as expansionist aggression.
But Russia rightly perceives a U.S.-driven move to encircle and humiliate it.
Anti-missile missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic are directed at Iran? Right.
Ukraine and Georgia are proposed for NATO membership? Nothing to do with Russia.
U.S. and Israeli military aid pours into Georgia, and Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia hold joint exercises under American supervision? Don't worry your pretty little head about it.
In short, dragging its European allies behind it, the U.S. has been doing everything it can to restart the Cold War.
Buoyed by its new oil wealth, Russia has finally drawn a line in the sand.
An interesting sidebar: Ukraine has warned Russia that ships of its Black Sea fleet that sail from Sebastopol to blockade the Georgian coast may not be allowed to return to that Crimean port (which Nikita Khrushchev arbitrarily transferred from Russia to Ukraine in the 1950s).
I suspect Putin will welcome that confrontation as much as he does this current one.
August 11, 2008 4:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, finally, a comment that makes much more sense than the blog. I wish I can rec'd comments instead. You're a canuck, no wonder. Your level of understanding will not be appreciated by most here.
No one seems to remember that Saakashvili started the invasion of S. Ossetia first, and no one appears to lament the hundreds of slaughtered ethnic Russian civilians here. It's ok to kill the "bad guys" Russian civilians, but not ok to kill the "good guys" Georgian civilians.
Putin is going to teach Saakasvili a lesson he will not forget, and maybe replace him with a more pro-Russia figure. Not fun for all the NeoCons here in America and on this board, but at least it'll keep the peace in that region. At the end of the day, Russia and Georgia have been neighbors, enemies and allies for centuries. They will have their own way of resolving this.
The Golden Rule - if you don't like someone messing in your own backyard, eg. Cuba & the Bay of Pigs, then don't do it to others. It can only bring about mischief.
August 11, 2008 7:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget natural gas wealth.
August 11, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great commentary.
August 12, 2008 12:01 AM | Reply | Permalink