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Dancing After the Towers Fell


We must sometimes discuss the horrific, and I find that there was, during the final night of the Republican National Convention a moment so horrific that it bears discussion.

For those who missed it, for it aired well before prime time, the RNC chose to show graphic footage of 9/11/01 - the tower being struck, people jumping to their deaths, the towers falling. Immediately after this tragic footage aired, they had a short break while "Highway to the Danger Zone" was played.

I am serious - this was no tragic parody taken too far. This was real. And chilling. And filled with hate.

Many Republicans chose to dance to it. These few minutes were permanently etched into my mind as an example of why we must all fight to our last breaths to make sure these wretches never regain political office.

This, truly, must be the final act of a pitiful, ghoulish people without ideas or a soul - to resort to the basest in our natures rather than the best part of our spirits. I am dispirited and ashamed for these low men, these hollow men; ashamed *for* them because they have no shame themselves. Whatever evil urges inspired this senseless display of national tragedy and pain, I can probably never understand. I don't want to understand it. I want to seek to forgive them for it.

I do not know if there is a forgiving God, an angry God, or a vacant nothingness between the stars, but I do know that morality surpasses creed. Is this act a forgivable act? Few seem to be discussing it, and it sorely bears discussion, for whoever approved such a desperate political tactic is unfit for leading a moral, righteous people: unfit because they do not share the basic values of their nation. Unfit, also, because to exalt this tragedy is to be the opposite of a patriot, for it dishonors the memories and ashes our honored dead. To exalt it for nothing more than political gain is unthinkable by a moral people.

It has been said that evil men can think of things that good men cannot. McCain has said he knows "the good and evil" in the world. Well, his party has certainly shown a passion for evil. If there is decency and goodness at all in his party, airing this footage has called it to question.

That his party can dance immediately after seeing such footage...well, that says more about them than anything I could write.

May God take pity on their souls.


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This is a masterful and eloquent post. I urge everyone to recommend it.

This post deserves to rise to the top of the recommend list. It deserves a wide readership. Send it to your email list. Copy it to blogs.

Chris, you have written from the heart. My words here cannot match your eloquence. But I commend you for raising these issues in the manner you have. Yours is a large and beautiful soul. Hang onto your morality and your ideals. And never let go.

I can't say anything other than thank you for writing this.

I feel as you do. I asked my conservative brother if he was troubled by McCain's selection of Palin given her lack of experience and his age. My brother is 75 and he told me that he's concerned about McCain's capabilities. Without missing a beat, he said no, that if anything happened to McCain, the "team" would help her govern. Yeah, he's right. The same team that's running the country right now. Evidently that's fine and dandy with my brother.

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Palin is bush in drag. Someone who can be a "front" person - a vote getter - for a dark Lord like Cheney. Scares the heck out of me!

Actually, I think Palin is CHEYNEY in drag. Seriously. A lot more dangerous than Bush if we are so foolish as to let her get near the seat of power.

She is very similar to Bush, as a matter of fact you can take the Palin or Bush? quiz here:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/09/05/palin_bush_quiz/index.html

But I think Bush wasn't afraid to answer questions from the press.

So sad that this wing still exists in the GOP. People who can't really see the damage that has been done these last 40 years by both parties, but especially by the neoconservative-dominated republican party.

At 75 years old, I would think your brother had a longer view of the GOP that might be able to break free of his brainwashing. Just goes to show how powerful that program has been.

Chris: Thanks for this post. I don't think the Republicans understand that they have squeezed the blood out of 9/11 and that everyone, regardless of party, feels that pain and still does. But it can't define us. Your perspective is touching and raw. Thanks.

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You might want to post that other link here, KateO, for anyone who missed the "dancing."

I think the first night the crowd was so dull and moribund that they told people to liven things up. Disastrous!

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Honestly, I think your link, KateO, gives the total context for this post. We've all seen the towers fall - but if people see for themselves the way the people were dancing - and that they did that no matter what the topic was.... well, this post says it all.

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Forgive me, KateO - what you've linked to is the "context" for this post.

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No.... I meant exactly what you linked to at first.

My "forgive me" was an accident as I didn't know the initial comment had posted!

So now I apologize for the confusion.

I do indeed think the Vanity Fair video is the perfect way for people to "see" the actual kind of dancing people were doing. Thus, it is indeed the context for this post.

My sincere apologies for the confusion.

This is without doubt the most moving post I have read since coming to TPM and the most chillingly insightful.

Poetic, vivid, sorrowing, angry. I can't praise this piece of writing enough.

Deserves to be on the op-eds of the NYT, WaPo, LAT, etc.

Thank you so much.

TPM STAFF: please see to it that this post gets a wider readership if you can. Thanks.

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I feel the same way. I read it aloud to my husband. It brings tears to your eyes.

Humbly Rec'd. I know I can't make generalizations here, but there is something primitive about the minds of too many Republicans, something that lusts for blood, even the sight of America's own.

God forgive them indeed. Thanks for this piece. It's part of me now.

Off topic, but you MUST see the Daily Show's mock bio of McCain that aired tonight. Really brilliant.

Thank you.Rec'd

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A noble post. The 'Bush Base' is a totally immoral bunch of chest thumping hypocrites who cannot run their own lives in an honorable way but think they have the right to tell everyone else how to live.

They would dance to the falling towers like some cult of witches from ages past, yet not allow cameras at the funerals of troops that Bush sent to needless deaths in a foreign land.

A noble post. The 'Bush Base' is a totally immoral bunch of chest thumping hypocrites who cannot run their own lives in an honorable way but think they have the right to tell everyone else how to live.

They would dance to the falling towers like some cult of witches from ages past, yet not allow cameras at the funerals of troops that Bush sent to needless deaths in a foreign land.

A noble post. The 'Bush Base' is a totally immoral bunch of chest thumping hypocrites who cannot run their own lives in an honorable way but think they have the right to tell everyone else how to live.

They would dance to the falling towers like some cult of witches from ages past, yet not allow cameras at the funerals of troops that Bush sent to needless deaths in a foreign land.

A noble post. The 'Bush Base' is a totally immoral bunch of chest thumping hypocrites who cannot run their own lives in an honorable way but think they have the right to tell everyone else how to live.

They would dance to the falling towers like some cult of witches from ages past, yet not allow cameras at the funerals of troops that Bush sent to needless deaths in a foreign land.

And yet these same ghoulish hypocrites refuse to show the coffins of the soldiers returning from the war. They will show the atrocities of death and destruction from 9/11, but not the atrocities of their own war of choice, both on our own soldiers and on the people of Iraq.

There are really no words that adequately describe how depraved, dangerous and soulless these people are, but you did a very good job approximating it, Chris.

Berry: This, truly, must be the final act of a pitiful, ghoulish people without ideas or a soul

It is most certainly not their final act. Our country becomes more and more full of these vampires every day.

Berry: I do not know if there is a forgiving God, an angry God, or a vacant nothingness between the stars

These are not the only possibilities.

Providing we all put Barack in the White House come November, this may be the last time such a spectacle takes place at a GOP event. All heart and soul hasn't left the conservative movement in this country.

Coke Classic is coming soon to store near you. Sorry for New Coke, but it's one of those things that look great on paper and don't translate to the real world.

Just the idiots who smashed the windows of small business owners at the WTO riots in Seattle don't represent all liberals, this dying ideology is hardly representative of the GOP as a whole, its rank and file members or its history of good works in this country.

Please remember that even as you witness the well-financed and nationally-televised funeral of the coup that took control of this country 40 years ago, that this represents only a very small part of those in this country who identify themselves as conservative. What you are witnessing is the beginning of the end for the neoconservatives.

If you all push too hard on the left, the pendulum will go right past that sweet spot in the center we have been hunting for and which Barack Obama staked his campaign on.

Just the idiots who smashed the windows of small business owners at the WTO riots in Seattle don't represent all liberals...

There you go again, furthering your party's propaganda point that conflates liberalism with violence. It's totally illegitimate, but so effective that we can't really blame you for keeping it rolling.

As for your assertion that "this dying ideology is hardly representative of the GOP as a whole, its rank and file members," this is demonstrably false. According to Quinnipiac, northward of 80% of Republicans in battleground states will vote for the extremist McCain/Palin ticket that your party is attempting to thrust on the American people. Can you think of any reason to believe that the saturation will be any lower in other states?

You say, "What you are witnessing is the beginning of the end for the neoconservatives." Does this mean that you do not see the nominees of your party as neocons? If so, would you mind pointing out the difference between their platform and the current neocon administration? I must confess I can't find much in the way of divergence between your party's proposals and the policies of the Bush Administration.

There you go again not reading what you quoted. I said the Raging Left DOESN'T represent liberals anymore than neoconservatives & the Rapture Right represent all conservatives.

Apparently you don't read anything I write or can't recall from one blog to the next who I support and why. I said in this very post that Barack Obama is going to raise the bar all around and would be changing the paradigm not just for democrats but for republicans as well. That is why the GOP is changing and why the DLC has lost power in the democratic party.

You must have bought into the democratic party propaganda that they haven't been every bit a part of the problem as the neocons have been these last forty years. I bet you Ted Kennedy is sorry he challenged Carter for the nomination, ushering in the Reagan Revolution. I bet Bill Clinton wished he hadn't folded like a cheap suit every time Newt Gingrich said Boo!

No one is innocent what has happened here and calling people brainwashed robots because you can't comprehend what is written doesn't advance the "liberal" cause any.

To paraphrase a maxim from carpentry: Read twice, comment once.

I see, you want to complain about me, rather than my points. Tell you what. I'll just stick to a logical argument and you go ahead and keep being unresponsive.

JEM: I said the Raging Left DOESN'T represent liberals

And AGAIN you claim that the WTO violence came from liberals (to whom you refer so propaganistically as The Raging Left). Documentation? None, not even to answer a refutation. Dishonesty? Plenty, as we have come to expect from spokespersons from your party.

JEM: ...anymore than neoconservatives & the Rapture Right represent all conservatives.

Now you misquote yourself. Another Republican tactic. In your original statement, it was "the GOP," not conservatives, that the neocons don't represent. As I pointed out, that's a lie.

JEM: Apparently you don't read anything I write

Here I go again, wishing this were so.

JEM: or can't recall from one blog to the next who I support and why.

I am well aware of whom you support. You support the Obama ticket. I am also well aware of why. He is a conservative.

JEM: Barack Obama is going to raise the bar all around and would be changing the paradigm not just for democrats but for republicans as well.

More unsupported opinion and unwarranted crystal ball gazing.

JEM: That is why the GOP is changing and why the DLC has lost power in the democratic party.

This follows from your previous statement like watermelons follow an enema. As I have pointed out, the your party is NOT changing (except that it keeps getting smaller). Whether or not this is an enduring trend remains to be seen, but its platform, as I have also pointed out unchallenged by you, is just as militaristic, just as oligarchical, just as inhuman as ever. That's YOUR platform. Proud, are you?

JEM: You must have bought into the democratic party propaganda that they haven't been every bit a part of the problem as the neocons have been these last forty years. I bet you Ted Kennedy is sorry he challenged Carter for the nomination, ushering in the Reagan Revolution. I bet Bill Clinton wished he hadn't folded like a cheap suit every time Newt Gingrich said Boo!

No one is innocent what has happened here and calling people brainwashed robots because you can't comprehend what is written doesn't advance the "liberal" cause any.

I have no idea where any of this comes from nor what it has to do with the rest of our conversation.

To paraphrase a maxim from carpentry: Read twice, comment once.

To paraphrase another, horsefeathers.


You are obviously incapable of rational thought and rational conversation. You don't represent your party very well. Good luck with those tactics, bold words and all.

JEM: You are obviously incapable of rational thought and rational conversation. You don't represent your party very well. Good luck with those tactics, bold words and all.

I must indeed be incapable of rational thought as you so ably demonstrated. You carefully demolished every single point that I raised with thoughtful analysis (battleground states are inconsequential), authoritative links (????), and inarguable facts (a 50-state victory in 2012).

Another bit of evidence of my psychosis: I was foolish enough to get into a debate with such a well-informed, clear-thinking, and insightful Republican. How could I have ever expected to win an argument with such an invincible opponent. I bow to your wisdom.

Damn! I've totally been enjoying this hoonoo! Very tasty little smackdown!

Yeah, total smack down. He debates shit just like you do. Pull quotes out of context and then say it is unsupported by the "facts" without providing any actual counter "facts" as a rebuttal. Great technique! No wonder you are fan.

JEM: He debates shit just like you do. Pull quotes out of context

Example, please.

JEM: You don't represent your party very well.

And which party would that be, Jason? Remember, when you assume, you make an ass out of Uma Thurman.

The "liberal" party. Whatever it is you stand for, is completely lost in your sophomoric generalizations and complete inability to see beyond your own narrow view. In other words, a lack of empathy. Ironic in a liberal.

PS: Who was it demonstrating in Seattle? The Rapture Right care about economic issues and globalization now? Are the Rich Motherfucker crowd from the GOP protesting the WTO? Your arguments make no more sense than the clowns on Raging Right.

Again, you are answering with more bullshit from a liberal point of view. That isn't the basis of my argument.

I am not saying they represent the "liberal" POV, just that for many on the other side of the fence - read, republicans- that is exactly what they are, crazy liberals out to take their revenge.

When you characterize "all registered republicans" as being for the neocon agenda, you are showing that you are just another dumb ass liberal who doesn't do his research.

Not saying it is true, just that it appears as if it may be true.

I see.

COMPREHENSION 101

When Raging Left and Rapture Right are used as pejoratives in the same comment, it is meant to show that NEITHER GROUP represents their side, just that they are the loudest and most passionate.

That was the entire basis of my original comment to this blog as well that you took so much offense to. You sure get offended easily for the party that is on the rise. Confidence would be a lot more attractive to those "swing voters" in the middle.

You have yet to offer a rational counter argument to my main point. I am not looking for links to sources. I am not looking for in-depth studies. I am looking for an intelligent opinion based on common sense.

If you can't see the face of the electorate changing and rely on CNN for your political analysis, that would explain your complete inability to see the progressive republicans within your midst who just might help Obama increase that margin.

The loudest on both sides don't represent the vast, sane center of the country. When you all get together and start pitching republicans on the bonfire, you work at cross purposes to your stated goals.

You have yet to offer a rational counter argument to my main point.

I'm afraid you managed to conceal your "main point" far too well for me to offer any sort of argument. For all I know, I agree with your main point, whatever it might have been.

I was responding to your accusation that the WTO protesters were lefties, and your rather perplexing suggestion that the 80+ percent of registered members of your party don't represent your party. Perhaps I wasn't clear about that.

But let's give your battered ego a break and talk for a moment about what you call "common sense." It's way overrated, you know. A lot of very bright people have come a cropper due to improper application of common sense. Common sense told the early popes that the sun moved across the sky while the earth stood still. It told Aristotle that a heavier object would fall faster than a lighter one. It told Jefferson that black Africans and white Englishmen could never live in harmony together. It told Einstein that quantum physics was bunkum. If common sense can lead these intellectuals to embarrasment, imagine what it can do to such dim bulbs as we. Rely on common sense at your peril, Jason. It is far wiser to base your philosophy in empiricism.

"80%+ don't represent your party."

What did I say at the very beginning?

Barack is getting about 20% to 25% of the republican vote at this moment in time based on open primaries. That would leave about 80& to 75% remaining in the GOP to be turned to a progressive agenda. Of those, perhaps half are reachable and half won't change this year, if ever.

Barack could have even more republican votes by the general if you guys could back off and quit demonizing everyone who isn't a registered democrat.

Barack could have even more republican votes by the general if you guys could back off and quit demonizing everyone who isn't a registered democrat.

Another unsupported statement of wishful thinking expressed as fact. We can't blame you personally, though. It's your party's way of doing business.

BTW, would you feel better if I also "demonize" some registered Democrats? I'll be more than happy to dig into the myriad flaws in the conservative positions the Democrats have espoused.

But help me out here. I can't figure out what I have said that demonizes anyone. Can you point out one bitty little demonization that I've done? Thanks.

You conflate Conservative with Neoconservative. It is the same logical fallacy you idiots make when you confuse Evangelical and Fundamentalist.

You keep saying "my party" this and that. n case you missed it, I am not voting for my party until they start fielding progressive candidates. "My party" has been taken over by fascists and fools. Just like the democratic party has been.

But help me out here. I can't figure out what I have said that demonizes anyone. Can you point out one bitty little demonization that I've done? Thanks.
Are you this thick-witted in person or is it just all the words that get confusing and hard to remember over the course of a long thread? Every comment you make demonizes "republicans" and the "80% of us who support the neocon agenda" and are out to Destroy the World!

Seriously dude/dudette this is just getting boring. I am off to write a blog about this idiocy now.

Every comment you make demonizes "republicans" and the "80% of us who support the neocon agenda" and are out to Destroy the World!

Then it should be no problem at all for you to show where I have done so. Now remember, simply making you look foolish is not the same as demonizing. Come to think of it, I'm not even doing that. There is no need for me to do so.

Boring? I suppose it is boring to keep spouting unsupported speculations and inappropriate characterizations. If it were me, I'd stop. But I'm not going to insist on your changing your style.

I have quoted you more than once where you accused "80% of registered republicans" as being part and parcel of the neocon agenda for America. I then explained that at least for every republcuian I know, that simply isn't true.

You make claims that are not backed up by allegorical or statistical evidence based on sound science and not biased polling.

You have ignored my answers to your claims more than once. Yes, boring and pedantic and predictable. Anyone with half a brain who is reading this exchange knows exactly what I am saying and none of it is unsubstantiated.

JEM: have quoted you more than once where you accused "80% of registered republicans" as being part and parcel of the neocon agenda for America.

Now I understand the problem. You have adopted the attitude of your party which dictates that if you tell a lie often enough it becomes true. It hasn't worked for you so far. You are still lying. If it does become true, I'll let you know, but I'm afraid you will remain a liar for some time. Sorry.

Every time I attempt to reply to you, the comment seems to vanish in the abyss that is TPM Cafe's interface. It's almost as frustrating as you are.

But what a lot of undocumented, opinionated, ill-conceived conservative propaganda you offer in such a compact, compacted turd of a post.

You say, "Just [as] the idiots who smashed the windows of small business owners at the WTO riots in Seattle don't represent all liberals..." [emphasis added]

Here you go again. This is the second time in the last few days that you have tried to further your party's line that conflates liberalism with violence and stupidity. Have you no shame? The people to whom you refer do not represent ANY liberals. They represent anti-free-traders, a group whose membership spans parties and ideologies and I daresay is more heavily represented by those to whom you refer to as "the middle" and to whom a liberal would refer as right-wingers.

You say, "this dying ideology is hardly representative of the GOP as a whole, its rank and file members..."

This is nonsense and I would be startled to learn that you don't know it. Those who are registered Republicans are fully committed to the neoconservative ideology. According to Quinnipiac, members of your party in four battleground states favor the extremist McCain/Palin ticket in majorities that exceed eighty percent. I have no reason to believe that the fanatic loyalty of the vast majority of your party's members would be lower elsewhere. Do you?

You say, "What you are witnessing is the beginning of the end for the neoconservatives."

I beg your pardon? What is it about your party's nominees that separates them from the neocons? Have you read your own party's platform? Can you provide just one or two examples where it diverges from the policies advanced by the Bush/Cheney administration?

You say, "If you all push too hard on the left, the pendulum will go right past that sweet spot in the center." You call it a sweet spot. I call it a rotten spot, and wish that Americans had the sense to recognize it for what it is and excise it. The pendulum in the United States is so far to the right that liberals must push as hard as we can just to slow its progress even further to the right.

This comment is even worse than the first one. Don't point to "Battleground" states as being an indicator of anything. Much less polls. The entire electoral map is shifting because of Barack Obama and you're so angry at "republicans" that you lose all common sense.

What is starting with 20& to 25% of the republican party voting democratic this year will be a 50-State victory come 2012.

If you honestly think this country would work any better under one-party rule by liberals then you haven't been paying attention. Extremism on either side is what wrecks this country and keeps us bouncing from terrible strategy to the next, only at opposite ends of the spectrum. Don't you think like is a little more complex than that? Don't you realize this country has been having the same argument for over 230 years?

You have a one-dimensional view of a three dimensional problem and offer zero common sense solutions to how we can focus both parties to pursue common goals with complimentary, though opposing, methods.

"Pushing as hard as we possibly can to stop further drifting to the right" is reactionary tactic not based on a realistic view of the trends shown in the primary. All pushing does right now is push people away you are trying to get to join you in fixing the country under President Obama.

I am pretty sure he wouldn't approve of your methods or rhetoric. He is all about healing the country, not dividing it further.

JEM: Don't point to "Battleground" states as being an indicator of anything.

OK, let's hear your common sense interpretation of how the battleground states won't determine the winner of November's presidential election. Should be entertaining.

JEM: What is starting with 20& to 25% of the republican party voting democratic this year will be a 50-State victory come 2012.

And you base this outrageous prediction on what? Common sense, I presume?

JEM: If you honestly think this country would work any better under one-party rule by liberals then you haven't been paying attention.

If you honestly think I said anything even remotely resembling this, it's not I who hasn't been paying attention.

JEM: Extremism on either side is what wrecks this country and keeps us bouncing from terrible strategy to the next, only at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Agreed. And your party is the least extreme party in the United States, right?

You have a one-dimensional view of a three dimensional problem and offer zero common sense solutions

This thread is not about solutions, but really...A Republican complaining about a lack of solutions? That takes a certain amount of chutzpah. If you really want to see a dearth of solutions, read your party's platform.

I base on the early open primaries where Barack won with 75% of the vote, including a healthy percentage of republicans. I base it on the fact that every republican I know is voting for him, not a few of which are on this site.

There are no battleground states in a 50-state strategy. Barack has alre