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Did You Hear the One About Palin Listening to Biden Speeches Since She was 7!



OMG!! Has anyone noticed the implausible statement that Palin has been making lately?
Katie Couric: You made a funny comment, you've said you have been listening to Joe Biden's speeches since you were in second grade.
Now what would a 7 year old be doing listenin' to Biden speechifying? If Palin was a mental giant then I might believe this, otherwise it's likely a line someone else made up for her to feed to the press.

So it probably went off something like this.
Coach Lieberman: Ok Sarah, we want you to go out there and start planting the idea that Joe's been around a long long time and represents the status quo.

Palin: Ok. But isn't John been around almost as long?

Coach Lieberman: Sure but that won't matter voters love you and won't even think to notice the hypocracy of it, just smile and do a little of that twang thing you do.

Palin: Like "I'll get back to ya?"

Coach Lieberman: Perfect. Now ... say something like, "Senator Biden's been giving speeches since I was in elementary school." You know he was elected when you was just a second grader? I've been listening to Joe speeches ever since he was elected.

Palin: That sounds great!. I think I use that. Palin whispers to herself several times, "I've been listening to Joe Biden's speeches since I was in second grade ... "I've been listening to Joe Biden's speeches since I was in second grade." Ok, next!
Oye vey!


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Actually, Biden was elected when she was a 3rd grader. She couldn't even get that right.

I'm guessing she figures he was elected in '72 and since she graduated HS in '82, 10 years earlier would have been 2nd grade. But elections are in the Fall, not the Spring, so when Biden was elected in November '72 and when he took office in January '73, Palin would have been in THIRD Grade.

This is of course ignoring the nonsense that she would have heard anything about the speeches of a Freshman Senator when she was in 3rd grade - 6 years before C-SPAN existed.

But the Anchorage Daily News was around then. Here are some of the headlines I've dug-up

November 8, 1972: Little known 29 year old elected to Senate from Delaware....almost forgot, Nixon was re-elected President in a landslide

March 15, 1973: Sen Biden (D-DE) hails freed POW John McCain as American Hero; also states unknown 12 year old from Hawaii is not ready to lead

July 1, 1978: Sen Biden (D-DE) congratulates Alaska on 20 years of statehood; says Baked Alaska his favorite dessert

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Great Comment!

*snort* *guffaw* Well played.

That was around the time she stopped learning anything new . . .

True enough! I'm 55 years old, attended the University of Delaware, and to tell you the truth, I can't remember a Biden speech that dates past the last year or so.

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Palin is clearly a loose cannon who won't be told what to do. The result is and will be, that they stuff her full of talking points (it won't sink in or be "organic"; it will be like lipstick on a Cheney), and she agrees to spout them. Then when in front of the camera she wings it, saying whatever comes into her head that is either "organic" or appears to her to bolster her image a a "tough broad".

That's what happened when the stranger asked her about Pakistan: her answer agreed with Obama's, not McSames. So when they got together, she listened to him in order to repeat what he said, while he was also floating the bullshit that it was a "gotcha" question -- which it wasn't -- as if the question were to blame for the "Wrong" answer.

She clearly believe she is smart; and her "method" might work in Alaska. But it won't work nationally. And there is no way, in this short a time, she can digest and begin to remember all the stuff they have to stuff her with.

The debate will be a disaster, after which the effort will be to arouse pity for her. While also, of course, attacking both female Ifill and male Biden as being a male sexists.

Yea right. We are to believe that she has been "tuned" into politics since she was in 2nd or 3rd grade, but can't name a newspaper or a magazine she now reads? Just another lie. She is a joke.

she has been so tuned into politics at a tender age that she couldnt name one newspaper that she reads regularly...did you see that clip? she said she learned foreign affairs through books/reading different "mediums"..that is right folks, she said mediums and then she was asked to name a source as in a newspaper she reads regularly...she responded by saying "many variety" but couldnt name one!!!!

by now, you know she couldnt think of a single supreme court case apart from roe vs wade....nada zilch niente rien....i am beginning to wonder if this lady ever attended school and if so, was she under the desk during all lectures!!!!

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We all know where she gets her news... and it rhymes with "Fox News".

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It's hard to remember the names of the newspapers that you read when you read ALL of them, as she noted. Since she was able to wire up her own cable system to listen to Biden's Senate speeches as a mere lassie, she has a lot--a whole lot--of information in her head and it's just hard to pull out the exact points when needed.

I think I know why McCain is so angry now. "How did I ever pick Palin?" Except, probably, it's "Rove--the idiot! He should have let me pick Lieberman, because since I'm a loved war hero, the people will follow me to the ends of the earth."

palin repeatedly comments about biden's experience and offers us a fresh face. so public do you want someone w/ experience or caribou barbie.

Judgement! Judgement! Judgement!

Remember to stick to your talking point. Lets not make experience unimportant in Obama vs. McCain and make it important in Biden vs. Palin.

I think Biden has an excellent comeback to the "listening since 2nd grade" line. Thank her. It's always nice to see kids showing an interest in national politics. It's particularly gratifying personally when one's earlier speeches make an impact on someone, especially one raised Republican. Perhaps she could share whose speeches on the Republican side of politics made a strong impression on her, since those presumably were more central to her own developing beliefs? maybe the long-time Alaskan political icon Ted Stevens?

"It's always nice to see kids showing an interest in national politics. It's particularly gratifying personally when one's earlier speeches make an impact on someone, especially one raised Republican."

This part alone will get lots of folks questioning the truthfulness of her statement. What 7 year old listens to a freshman Senator's speech from Deleware? I think you suggestion is fine until you got to the Stevens part. It turns into snark. Biden can't afford to attack her. Let her do herself in.

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No, but he can chuckle at the ridiculousness of it all.

Chuckling risks coming off as condescending. Let Palin have her moment with Ifill. Let her question Palin and let Palin's responses do her in. There's a large segment of the population that have yet to see the fallacy of McCain decision to put Palin on the ticket.

I'm an Obama supporter, but I'll go easy on Palin on this issue. Her words were, to my mind what we like to call in my neck of the woods, "A joke." There's enough Palin ridiculousness out there without us grasping at every little thing. The Little Green Footballs wing-nuts do this all the time. We don't have to.

I hear you. But this is serious business. Palin could become President. Pointing out the keystone cops act that McCain and Palin are engaged in is important to help those on the fence get perspective. Remember, McCain is in the mid 40's in most polls.

Here is the text from Couric's interview.

Couric: “You made a funny comment. You said you’ve been listening to Joe Biden’s speeches since second grade, something like that?”

Palin: “Since like ‘72? Yah?”

Couric: “When you have a 72-year-old running mate is that kind of a risky thing to say, insinuating that Joe Biden’s been around a while?”

Palin: “Oh no, it’s nothing negative at all. He’s got a lot of experience. What with being in the Senate a long time. Statin’ the facts, doncha know. I am, you know, energy. New ideas. Fresh face. He’s experience. Him in the Senate. Many many years, ya know. Me for fresh energy with the ideas in the face. Hey, Katie there, ya seen John? I think I’m supposed to maybe only talk when he’s around now. Oh, whatever. Fresh ideas for the energyface, not many many Senateyears what with Old Joe. That’s what I think, youbetcha.”

It didn't seem like "a joke' to me.

Okay, I do not for one minute believe that Sarah Palin was tuned into Joe Biden's speeches when she was a 2nd grader and he was a Freshman Senator.

At the same time, I have to say that it's not inconceivable to me that children in general take an interest in politics; I just don't believe it in her case because she doesn't seem that interested as an adult. If she had been listening to political speeches since seven, she would know more Supreme Court history than Roe v. Wade, and she would be able to cite at least some examples of McCain's legislative record. I know this, because I can do these things, and didn't start following politics until middle school.

I do distinctly remember watching Joe Biden during the Bork confirmation hearings; I was 12 at the time. This is still very vivid to me; it made a big impression. I guess it was the first real "political" event to break through for me on an emotional and intellectual level, as strange as it seems to me now.

And while I may be the only person in America who even remembers Bork, those hearings - and more specifically, the way Joe Biden handled them - are the reason I started thinking of myself as a "liberal" in the midst of My Old Small-Town, Reagan Democrat, Christianist Conservative Kentucky Home. Truly. Joe Biden's "speeches" when I was 12 played a big part in making me into the person who would be an Obama (and then Obama/Biden) supporter in 2008. I have disagreed with him a lot over the years, but I haven't doubted Biden's motivations or core principles. And he's clearly had an impact on mine - which is not something I've heard many (any?) Republicans say about John McCain, even when they were praising his mavericky POWness.

I feel very weird, having just realized (and shared) that I had this "formative event" that I didn't even fully remember until Saracuddah went and dissed on my boy. So I guess there's one thing I like about her now. Her vapid meanness reminded me just how deeply effective our guy really is.

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She must not have been paying attention or some knowledge would have rubbed off.
How long has C-span been on?

maybe 79 or 80? I don't really know. I was born in '74 and didn't live in the states till 76. wasn't allowed to watch much tv as a little kid, and wouldn't have been a big c-span watcher, I'm sure.

but, yeah. I don't think Biden really came on the national scene in a big way until the Bork hearings, which was 87. But I could be wrong. Maybe I just think that because that's when my political consciousness really began (other than knowing who "The President" was and who the major candidates for, say Presidential and Gubernatorial races were).

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Oh whatever...I clearly remember watching the Democratic National Convention and the presidential debates in '76 and I was 3 at the time. I remember staying up for election returns that same year. Since then, I was a political junkie and have never missed a convention or debate.

My point, is that it's possible she remembers hearing Biden speak when she was a child. I don't. Biden didn't come on radar until the late 80s when he first ran for president, but whatever.

I remember the Kennedys and MLK from 4-5 years old. Biden was an unknown. I don't think this is a different from her claim that she learned from books and newspapers. When asked which ones, she couldn't name one. She dodged the question. Pathological Liars.

And you know Couric asked her because she wanted to know what media, if any, that Palin has read. The women is an incoherent.

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Sure. She listened on her radio and then rode to school on a dinosaur.

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