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Teach the Controversy? WTF!
Both McCain and Palin say "teach the controversy."
What controversy? There's science and then there's creationism. You learn creationism in church... or some private School of Jesus H. Christ.
You learn science in science class. Done. No controversy. No problem. Except, of course, that there is! (see above link.)
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What I find amusing about this is that Palin's crowd says creationism should be taught because it's best to provide students more information for them to make a decision. However, on the sex education side, teaching about contraception is just too much information and the students must be limited to the single viewpoint of abstinence only sex education. So, are these students smart enough to analyze two points of view or not? What hypocrisy.
September 17, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. Hypocrisy indeed.
September 17, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Teach the controversy." Otherwise known as the Candy Crowley approach to education.
September 17, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Teach the [deliberately contrived] Controversy" has a long and sordid history as the chief dialectical dodge employed by the rabid, reactionary Christionists who find themselves simply sidestepped and bypassed by a secular world with better and more productive things to think about than discredited, Single Spook Animism. The disruptive tactic persists, however, because as Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes put it long ago:
There you have the short answer to those fools who think they can disrupt any conversation as a means of covering for the fact that they have nothing of value to contribute to it. For the longer, more complete answer, see John Dewey almost a century ago:
Americans do learn slowly, sometimes; although for the most part they seem either uninterested in learning or else just violently opposed to learning anything at all. And what better avatar of atavistic anti-intellectualism than that shallow symbol of the simplistic: the goofy girl governor of ass-backwards Alaska?
September 17, 2008 11:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for those quotes. And for the eloquent comments. Quite well said.
Cheers.
September 18, 2008 7:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm in favor. I belong to the Flat Earth Society and our students are woefully uninformed about that controversy as well. And how about that "Law" of gravity?
September 18, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK......and the null hypothesis of "the controversy" is....?
September 18, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
.....that, there is no controversy!
I don't think that could be disproved....therefor, there is no controversy......at least scientifically.
September 18, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you want to censor, basically, the controversies that are teachable? Shall we stop teaching anyone about Ptolmy? Most teachers would like to be able to teach the history of human thought, errata and all, without you guys censoring us.
September 18, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gee, I didn't know Ptolemy was still controversial for some. You are retro!
Are you serious? I don't think there is any effort on the secular side of this issue to censor anybody. It's an effort on the Right to force words into the mouths of science teachers.
Teachers certainly could teach creationism as a scientific theory if they wanted, as long as students learned evolutionary theory as well, but few science teachers actually do want to do that. I have not heard of a concerted effort to stop teachers from talking about creationism. The issue is whether state school boards can force science teachers to present creationism as an equally "scientific" theory to evolution.
I don't think most teachers would object, even, to having to say (as my biology teacher did, years ago) that not everyone believes this, and some don't believe it for religious reasons, and if you want to learn about those beliefs you can take a religion class.
The issue is that religious folks are trying to force science teachers to waste their time teaching something they don't necessarily believe and to say, "Creationism is an equally scientific theory which, unfortunately is completely non-refutable (one of the hallmarks of a legitamate hypothesis is refutability), and therefore untestable, and which doesn't actually contribute anything practical to our knowledge of biology or geology or any other field."
A more apt analogy would be saying you want to pass a law that teachers must present Ptolemy's earth-centered model of the universe, with the stars and planets circling us, as equally an viable and legitimate construct as the modern conception, and to not express an opinion about which is correct. Sure, they could do that--but would that best serve to those children who want to go on to be Nasa scientists?
September 18, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Straw man. You know full well that "teach the controversy" is code for "clog up public school science classes with theological bullshit".
September 18, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's a "controversy" because Christianist pastors (and Christianist-funded scientists who publish their work in non-peer-reviewed journals) say there is.
September 18, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was thinking about Ptolemy's astrology, actually. Even a science teacher could use the creationism myth to teach. Fear of facts, and the human penchant for denial are viable subjects in my classes. I say, if it's human utterance, it's worth examination in the classroom.
Either you censor, or you don't.
I say: don't. Not even creationism.
September 20, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Using creationism to teach about myths should be taught in a class about mythology. There is no reason to teach creationism in any science class as there is no science in creationism (or ID).
There is also no reason to teach astrology in science classes either, for the same reason.
September 21, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just so I understand your position correctly: you advocate the censorship from public school instruction a list of subjects that are mostly intelligible to yourself?
Is we is, or is we ain't, censors?
September 22, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Should we teach French or Spanish in science class?
September 23, 2008 7:38 AM | Reply | Permalink