Time's "Man Of The Year" Will Be William Ayers.
Probably.
It's not just the media obsession that will make that happen.
I mean really, the mastery of taking a white guy and making other white people hate a black guy because the black guy knows a white guy?
And so much mental masturbation and repetition on the part of the press lacking three simple words...
"But so what?"
It's cowardice to end an article on the relationship with a dangling, dramatic mystery. If it's a news medium we're talking about. Very cheap of CNN to do this, for example.
CNN.
Knowing they could ask themselves "But so what?" and come up dry. Or with nothing to say.
Ben Smith at Politico finds a very relevant link, but it's not sexy enough for him to put on the front page.
It's not sexy enough to headline as anything other than 'Yawning about Annenberg.' Yet the link reveals two rather significant stories...
So not only is there a bond between Obama and the Ayers family, but that family's prominence is part of why Obama would suggest William Ayers had matured. It doesn't sound like a family of significantly aggressive people.
As for the program? Republican money all over it..
So, not evil.
But so what?
It's not just the media obsession that will make that happen.
I mean really, the mastery of taking a white guy and making other white people hate a black guy because the black guy knows a white guy?
And so much mental masturbation and repetition on the part of the press lacking three simple words...
"But so what?"
It's cowardice to end an article on the relationship with a dangling, dramatic mystery. If it's a news medium we're talking about. Very cheap of CNN to do this, for example.
CNN.
But the relationship between Obama and Ayers went deeper, ran longer and was more political than Obama -- and his surrogates -- have revealed, documents and interviews show.
Knowing they could ask themselves "But so what?" and come up dry. Or with nothing to say.
Ben Smith at Politico finds a very relevant link, but it's not sexy enough for him to put on the front page.
Also, it re-reports, Ayers was't involved in choosing Obama to chair the fund.
It's not sexy enough to headline as anything other than 'Yawning about Annenberg.' Yet the link reveals two rather significant stories...
"One fact of civic life in Chicago, say city residents, is the prominence of the Ayers family.
Thomas G. Ayers, the father of William and John Ayers, was the chief executive officer of the Commonwealth Edison Co., the region’s major electric utility. He died in 2007.
Mr. Obama had significant contact with Thomas Ayers toward the end of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, when they worked to establish the Chicago Public Education Fund. The fund received more than $2 million in startup money from the CAC."
So not only is there a bond between Obama and the Ayers family, but that family's prominence is part of why Obama would suggest William Ayers had matured. It doesn't sound like a family of significantly aggressive people.
“You can’t work in school reform in this community without coming across Bill Ayers. He’s been involved in every area of Chicago reform going back 20 years now,” said Michael Klonsky, who has known Mr. Ayers since their days in the leftist group Students for a Democratic Society in the 1960s. Mr. Klonsky later founded the Small Schools Workshop at the University of Illinois at Chicago with him.
“Senator Obama would have to be a magician to not have ran into, or met, or sat in a meeting with Bill Ayers,” Mr. Klonsky said.
As for the program? Republican money all over it..
“The Annenberg Challenge provides an unprecedented opportunity to concentrate the energy of this reform into an educational renaissance in the classroom.”
The proposal was backed by letters of support to the Annenberg Foundation from Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar, a Republican, local education school deans, the superintendent of the Chicago public schools, and the heads of local foundations."
"Mr. Obama, then 33, was an associate at the law firm Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Galland and a member of the board of the Chicago-based Joyce Foundation. He also served, as Mr. Ayers later did with him, on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which had financed the Developing Communities Project, a South Side community-organizing project that Mr. Obama ran from 1985 to 1988 before leaving to attend Harvard Law School.
He brought that organizing perspective with him to the new education project, telling the Chicago Tribune in a June 1995 article about the Chicago Annenberg Challenge: “If we’re really going to change things in this city, it’s going to start at the grassroots level and with our children.”"
So, not evil.
But so what?
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Good for you. Make it Ayers all the time on the blogs. Keep on feeding off of McCain's bait line.
For Obama, the election is about the economy, stupid, again.
October 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
liam, don't you get tired of cutting and pasting the exact same comment over and over? It sure gets tiring having to read past it over and over. We get your point, you are afraid of the name Ayers. Guess what? No one cares. Stop wasting your and everyone's time with this juvenile nonsense. Stop being afraid of what the GOP doesn't want us to know. Grow up, okay?
October 10, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forty one years after three civil rights workers were murdered in Mississippi Edgar Ray Killen was found guilty and sentenced to three 20 year prison terms. At the time he was tried, but there was a hung jury. The government waited 38 years to retry him. There is no statute of limitations on the crime of murder and I agree with that. I was happy that he was finally found guilty. Forty one years was too long for it to happen but better late than never. Are you telling me it was too long ago to matter? That Killen shouldn't have been retried?
Ayers is not an example of rehabilitation. Its an example of what money and political power can buy in a city run by a political machine. From your CNN link. "His late father Thomas, a wealthy and prominent executive of the public utility Commonwealth Edison, worked tirelessly and publicly to re-establish his son into Chicago society." Had his dad not been so rich and Chicago politics so corrupt he would not have been able to rehabilitate his reputation. The Ayers story is a good lesson on the power of money in politics. Its also an interesting story of the far left's fascination with violent leftist revolutionaries.
If some abortion clinic bomber got off on a technicality even though he admitted multiple times he was involved in at least 25 bombings. "Guilty as hell, free as a bird, America is a great country." (The people here who appreciate snark must be getting a good laugh over that comment.) And in the following years never regretted or rejected his violent acts. If this abortion clinic bomber said as little as 5 years ago, "I don't regret setting bombs, I feel we didn't do enough." If someone launched their political career from that abortion clinic bomber's home it would matter to me. Even if that abortion clinic bomber was now an English Professor. Would it matter to you?
October 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
oceankat, don't you get tired of cutting and pasting the exact same comment over and over? It sure gets tiring having to read past it over and over. We get your point, you are afraid of the name Ayers. Guess what? No one cares. Stop wasting your and everyone's time with this juvenile nonsense. Stop being afraid of what the GOP doesn't want us to know. Grow up, okay?
October 10, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Opus we get tired of listening to your same bullshit, over and over about this Ayers guy. He is a super wealth individual, he inherited great wealth, so he can afford the best lawyers to sue McCain.
This election is about Obmaa, and not some super privileged guy, who acted like a complete punk over forty years ago, and never faced the consequences, because his father bought him complete redemption, and restored him to the Chicago Academic Social circles.
Keep feeding off of McCain's bait line, in other words, carry on being a complete Ayers Head!
October 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ayers was lucky not to kill anyone and lucky to be rich. But who got more second chances due his family connections, Ayers or McCain?
October 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Donal, I have never suggested that McCain likely getting passes due to his father is meaningless. I have never claimed that we shouldn't discuss behavior at the naval academy or the numerous planes he crashed because he was a POW. In fact I've even stated that I think discussing his behavior as POW, pro or con, is relevant. I welcome factual and rational debate. Its other people who claim a topic is meaningless and shouldn't be discussed or debated or, really even mentioned at all.
But before I answer your question I think, in all fairness, if you're going to reply to my post, you have a certain responsibility to answer a question or 2 of mine on the topic this thread pertains to. Or is this dialog one sided, you get to blow me off and I have to answer your questions and discuss your issues with in the frame you select?
October 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was a rhetorical question. Ayers chose to be a radical, while McCain chose to be a rake, a gambler and a carouser. Both suffered for their efforts, McCain quite a bit more. Both were lucky not to have directly killed others or been killed themselves, and both were lucky to have had family support for second chances. It is hard to judge how much either of them actually learned from their mistakes. McCain still seems to be the same self-centered sort he was as a teenager.
October 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
While I suppose its possible McCain might have killed someone with his carousing perhaps by driving drunk I'm having a bit of trouble seeing the connection to someone who designed a nail bomb for the purpose of blowing up a dance attended by young soldiers and their girlfriends. Perhaps you can explain that to me?
When I was 10 I and a couple of other boys broke into an abandoned house and stole some items. My father was friends with the chief of police and I was let off with a stern talking to at the local police station. I'm not suggesting that rises to the level of McCain's carousing or the 3 fire bombs Ayers set off at the private home of Judge Murtagh while he, his wife, and his son slept in their house. One at the front door, one at the back door, and one under the car for the purpose of causing a secondary explosion of the car's gas tank. Do you think the action undertaken has any relevance to the discussion of receiving help from one's father to escape the consequences of the act?
October 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
His poor attention to flight training could easily have been more disastrous than it was:
And this just turns my stomach:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
October 10, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you're just looking for a foil to tack your screeds onto you're looking in the wrong place. Why did you even bother replying to my posts here. I'm not interested in being your straight man or stooge. I'm only interested in dialog. I expect in a dialog my points will be addressed the same way I address yours.
October 10, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
You asked for an explanation, you just don't like it. Young McCain and Ayers were both reckless while going after what they wanted, showing scant concern for the lives of other people.
October 10, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't care about it. I don't care to discuss it or defend McCain in those areas. Its boring. That's why I don't post on those threads and I did post on this one. Since you clearly don't bother to read my posts I'm just going to ignore you for a while.
October 10, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw shucks
October 10, 2008 11:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kravitz,
Excellent post! Ignore the children in the room, they just don't get it that you have to speak the truth to lies, all day, everyday, until the lies are destroyed.
Recommended.
October 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
To hell with this Ayers guy. He is doing just fine in his mansion, and he will be fine until after the election, then he can sue John McCain, if he has been maligned.
I will be damned if I am going to help John McCain take down Senator Obama, by swallowing his bait, just because a bunch of Ayers friends want to coddle him. He has not had a glove laid on him for forty years, so cut out all your fight the power bullshit. Ayers is the power. In fact, if you check out who his father was, he was The Power of The Power in Chicago.
It gets absurd, when we are told that Ayers is fighting the power, when he is at the very heart of the power. He has never had to defend himself for anything in his coddled life.
I support the election of Obama.
Ayers, I couldn't care less about.
October 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your demonizing of Ayers means that the McCain camp has won in swaying your opinion. You believe now, that Ayers is evil, and you fear the contact that Obama had with him. Everytime you put down Ayers with your insults, you show that the GOP has successfully brainwashed you into believing their bullshit smear campaign, and you are participating in their character assassination crusade. Stop being such a sucker crybaby.
October 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you're just looking for a foil to tack your screeds onto you're looking in the wrong place. Why did you even bother replying to my posts here. I'm not interested in being your straight man or stooge. I'm only interested in dialog. I expect in a dialog my points will be addressed the same way I address yours.
October 10, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink