Exclusive Interview: Joe the Plumber
☠: Hello readers. I have a very special guest today: Joe the Plumber, who has exploded from obscurity to celebrity faster than a photogenic moose-hunting governor. Joe, thanks for coming to my blog post.
J: My pleasure, ☠enghis. I've always dreamed of being interviewed by a blog with a readership of 10 or 11 people.
☠: Think big, Joe. We're going for 17 today. I'm honored that you accepted the invitation. I'm sure that you're in high demand since you became the cause célèbre of the presidential debate.
J: Well, I didn't have much choice, since you fictionalized me.
☠: Credit where credit is due, Joe. John McCain fictionalized you. Before we get started, are you related to the Polish plumber?
J: Who's the Polish Plumber?
☠: In European politics, he represented the specter of cheap Eastern European plumbers taking choice plumbing jobs from Western Europeans.
J: No relation. That guy is a caricature.
☠: And you're the real thing?
J: I was a real person before the debate. I had a last name and everything. Now I'm just Joe the Plumber.
☠: I see. So what do you represent now?
J: As I understand it, I'm a stand-in for all the guys who crack the $250K income limit, above which Obama would tax the hell out of 'em, but who are still regular guys with names like "Joe."
☠: So you're saying that if you were ☠enghis the Plumber, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
J: No way. In that case, I'd be ☠enghis the Terrorist Plumber, and we'd be discussing toilet bombs.
☠: That's disturbing. In any case, according to a recent study, plumbers with all-american names who earn more than $250K make up 0.00000229% of the population. It used to 0.00000295%, but a couple of guys just went bankrupt. So if I may be blunt, who gives a shit about your taxes?
J: You're missing the point, ☠enghis. I'm not a voting block; I'm an ideal. Heck, I wasn't making $250 G's either when I was a real person. But I dreamed of making $250 G's. And doggone it, if Obama becomes the president, the real me won't have that dream any more. And neither will all the other plumbers with names like "Joe," "Tom," and "Biff."
☠: Because Obama is against dreams?
J: Because Obama wants to tax the heck out of dreams. The real me's dream plumber truck won't be the top of the line anymore. The real me used to fantasize about buying 100 closet augers, 200 slip-joint pliers, and 800 toilet plungers. But if Obama wins, he'll have to scale back his dream. All I want is for the government to keep its dirty hands off the real me's dreams.
☠: What about the economy? The credit crisis?
J: Irrelevant. It's a dream business, so it's only affected by the dream economy. The dream economy has very strong fundamentals, very strong.
☠: Maybe you should just move to a dream tax haven.
J: I'm seriously considering it.
☠: But in the meantime, the real you is willing to give up a real tax break and a real health care cost reduction so that his dream taxes will be lower and he can buy more dream closet augers.
J: Exactly. And not just the real me. All the plumbers, brick layers, auto mechanics, and ice cream truck drivers. They all dream of getting rich some day and but still being regular guys and not becoming snotty golf-playing bastards who deserve to be taxed. Obama's dream tax will ruin it for all of them.
☠: Well, thanks for coming by Joe, what you've said makes a lot of sense. Give my best wishes to the real you and his dream plumbing business.
J: Thanks, ☠enghis. Good luck with your dream blog.
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Cross-posted at DagBlog.com. If you haven't read Articleman's live debate blog from last night, I recommend it.
J: My pleasure, ☠enghis. I've always dreamed of being interviewed by a blog with a readership of 10 or 11 people.
☠: Think big, Joe. We're going for 17 today. I'm honored that you accepted the invitation. I'm sure that you're in high demand since you became the cause célèbre of the presidential debate.
J: Well, I didn't have much choice, since you fictionalized me.
☠: Credit where credit is due, Joe. John McCain fictionalized you. Before we get started, are you related to the Polish plumber?
J: Who's the Polish Plumber?
☠: In European politics, he represented the specter of cheap Eastern European plumbers taking choice plumbing jobs from Western Europeans.
J: No relation. That guy is a caricature.
☠: And you're the real thing?
J: I was a real person before the debate. I had a last name and everything. Now I'm just Joe the Plumber.
☠: I see. So what do you represent now?
J: As I understand it, I'm a stand-in for all the guys who crack the $250K income limit, above which Obama would tax the hell out of 'em, but who are still regular guys with names like "Joe."
☠: So you're saying that if you were ☠enghis the Plumber, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
J: No way. In that case, I'd be ☠enghis the Terrorist Plumber, and we'd be discussing toilet bombs.
☠: That's disturbing. In any case, according to a recent study, plumbers with all-american names who earn more than $250K make up 0.00000229% of the population. It used to 0.00000295%, but a couple of guys just went bankrupt. So if I may be blunt, who gives a shit about your taxes?
J: You're missing the point, ☠enghis. I'm not a voting block; I'm an ideal. Heck, I wasn't making $250 G's either when I was a real person. But I dreamed of making $250 G's. And doggone it, if Obama becomes the president, the real me won't have that dream any more. And neither will all the other plumbers with names like "Joe," "Tom," and "Biff."
☠: Because Obama is against dreams?
J: Because Obama wants to tax the heck out of dreams. The real me's dream plumber truck won't be the top of the line anymore. The real me used to fantasize about buying 100 closet augers, 200 slip-joint pliers, and 800 toilet plungers. But if Obama wins, he'll have to scale back his dream. All I want is for the government to keep its dirty hands off the real me's dreams.
☠: What about the economy? The credit crisis?
J: Irrelevant. It's a dream business, so it's only affected by the dream economy. The dream economy has very strong fundamentals, very strong.
☠: Maybe you should just move to a dream tax haven.
J: I'm seriously considering it.
☠: But in the meantime, the real you is willing to give up a real tax break and a real health care cost reduction so that his dream taxes will be lower and he can buy more dream closet augers.
J: Exactly. And not just the real me. All the plumbers, brick layers, auto mechanics, and ice cream truck drivers. They all dream of getting rich some day and but still being regular guys and not becoming snotty golf-playing bastards who deserve to be taxed. Obama's dream tax will ruin it for all of them.
☠: Well, thanks for coming by Joe, what you've said makes a lot of sense. Give my best wishes to the real you and his dream plumbing business.
J: Thanks, ☠enghis. Good luck with your dream blog.
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Cross-posted at DagBlog.com. If you haven't read Articleman's live debate blog from last night, I recommend it.
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Did you ask him if he's related to Charles Keating? Inquireing minds wanna know.
http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/10/15/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-related-to-charles-keating-oops/
October 16, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish we could rec comments.
October 16, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
J: It had nothing to do with me. I was not involved. The only involvement I've had with Charles Keating was I fixed his faucet. Now, the reason I think that it's important to just get these facts out is because the allegation that Bwakfat has continually made is that somehow my associations are troubling.
October 16, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fair enough answer. Thanks oh wise ☠enghis one. I believe in Joe-the- unlicensed-and-not -actually- a-plumber-plumber
October 16, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
That story smells . . . of the consequences of having lived in and crawled out from Keating's cesspool.
October 16, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
HA HA Ha Ha ha haaaaaa!
October 16, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I were related to Keating I wouldn't be fixing toilets for a living. I'd be running around with a hot rich wife like Uncle Johnny....uh...I mean Senator McCain.
October 16, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really? I was under the impression there was no money left after the 40 months in the slammer. I'd think fixing toilets was one of the few things left you could do.
October 16, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tastefully done, except for the toilet plungers.
October 16, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can I be reader #18?
October 16, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
so well done!
October 16, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Genius, G. You've finally solved a long-standing conundrum for me. Working-class GOP voters aren't voting against their economic interests, they're voting for their dreams. Democrats want to tax their dreams! And once someone taxes your dreams all you have left is net dreams. Somehow, those just don't get you through the day in the same way.
Actually, there's quite a bit of truth to this. I know a guy, a real guy, who we'll call Dan the Grocer. Dan has worked in a grocery store since he got out of high school. Union worker for life, the whole package. Yet, even though he's thoroughly pro-union and all, he's staunchly Republican. He's not a social-issues guy either. It's all taxes to him. And if you talk to him about it, you find out that it's exactly because he thinks of himself as rich. Not because he is, but because he someday could be.
I'm dead serious. He's nearly retirement age now. He's never had a different job. He'll never have a different job. He's worked his whole life at the same job that hasn't made him rich and he still, erm, clings to the possibility. It's very strange to me, but this is a true story. There's definitely something to be learned here.
October 16, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
And how 'bout Larry the Lottery Player? If he finally wins big, wouldn't Obama raise his taxes?
October 16, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
reminds me of two things about this country that i know to be true:
in america ANYBODY can be rich but EVERYBODY can't.
joe and his friends spend way to much of their time focussing on the ANYBODY.
October 16, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, seriously.. that's what he thinks. I'm not kidding.
October 16, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
One of my favorite all time statistics-in 2000 19% of voters claimed to be in the top 1% income bracket, another 20% per cent thought they would be in the next ten years
October 17, 2008 7:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
One of the best dream blogs I've had in a long time! I should take more midday naps.
October 16, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe has the American Dream. Why would he dream and strive to make more only to have it taken from him? In order to get city, state, and other general contractor work, Joe the Plumber will be hiring union plumbers. They get their health insurance through the union. It is deducted from their paychecks. Union plumbers cost Joe a lot more money than scabs, but a lot less money in law suits because they know how and why to do things the right way. Joe now knows that neither one of these guys have a clue and he is really, really worried.
The bank bailout worries Joe, too, because he knows that the population has just had more wealth taken from them and they won't be able to afford to hire him.
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October 16, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Totally fab, Dr. ☠. ;)
B-bu-but I thought you are Dr. ☠ the Headless Horseman Plumber, and Head Hunter Deluxe. Is that an unused ID?
October 16, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I spent 5-1/2 years in the Hanoi Hilton. Do they call me "John the former POW?" They do NOT! (small wonder, since I never mention my captivity!)
I fought the Bush administration on nearly 5% of my votes. Do they call me "John the Maverick?" They do NOT!
I've been a republican my entire political career. Do they call me "John the Republican?" They do NOT! (thanks be to god)
But let a fellow screw just ONE goat.....
October 16, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Joe the Plumber" is becoming quite the question mark.
Is he is, or is he ain't, a LIAR?
October 16, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe might be a plumber, but he ain't no $250,000 plumber. nu-huh.
He's a Rightwing Radio ditto-head whose massive shiny cranium has been filled to capacity (nearly 2 full gallons!) with O'Reilly rotgut.
http://thetruthburns.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/joe-the-plumber-in-middle-class-denial/
October 16, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a question for that fella, Joe the Plumber. I would like to know the extent of his relationship with Joe Sixpack.
October 16, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is a good question. I wish that I'd asked it in the interview.
October 16, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Loved it. Wish you were writing for SNL. This was a heck of a lot snappier than the lame Joe Plumber shtick they ground out on SNL Thurs tonight.
But my favorite line of the whole thing comes from DF: And once people tax your dreams, what do you have left? Only net dreams.
So true.
October 16, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
The way this guy is being attacked makes me embarrassed to be an American sometimes.
October 17, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
As DF notes, it is the dream of wealth that is being sold. ☠enghis has nailed it.
October 17, 2008 12:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
BTW, you going to fix your pic?
October 17, 2008 12:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I kinda like it this way
October 17, 2008 1:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Funny stuff ☠enghis ! I think it goes beyond dreams though DF and is as much about fantasy as it is aspirations. I remember a study done within the last two or three years where Americans were asked to describe themselves as being 'rich' or 'not rich'. 26% answered that they were in the first category, which, (needless to say), defies logic.
October 17, 2008 2:02 AM | Reply | Permalink