The TPM "Apologists for the Scumbags" ... the MSM and Valerie Plame
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Small snippets of press and pundit quotes related to the previous status of Valerie Wilson Plame:
Washington Post editorial: “The trial has provided…no evidence that she was, in fact, covert.” [Washington Post, 3/7/07]
Mort Kondracke: “I frankly don’t think since Valerie Plame was not a covert officer that there was a crime here.” [Fox, 3/9/07]
Sean Hannity: “She did not meet the criteria, in any way, shape, matter or form as a covert agent.” [Fox, 3/6/07]
Robert Novak: “No evidence that she was a covert agent was ever presented to the jury.” [Fox, 3/6/07]
Brit Hume: “Whether the woman was covert, Valerie Plame was covert within the meaning of the law, remains at this point, still unclear. Unlikely she was.” [Fox, 3/6/07]
Victoria Toensing: “Plame was not covert. She worked at CIA headquarters and had not been stationed abroad within five years of the date of Novak’s column.” [Washington Post, 2/18/07]
Jonah Goldberg: “Wilson’s wife is a desk jockey and much of the Washington cocktail circuit knew that already.” [9/30/03]
Well, let's see what Valerie Wilson Plame personally had to say today about all this knowledge that the press and pundits were parroting, while carrying the water for the White House propaganda machine.
But first: In relationship to this apologist for the scumbags, and this apologist for the scumbags that haunt these TPM Cafe pages, just keep cutting and pasting the following in your replies so as not to waste your time playing tit-for-tat with these TPM Cafe bullshit artists.
“In the run-up to the war with Iraq, I worked in the Counterproliferation Division of the CIA, still as a covert officer whose affiliation with the CIA was classified...” Valerie Plame Wilson
“While I helped to manage and run secret worldwide operations against this WMD target from CIA headquarters in Washington, I also traveled to foreign countries on secret missions to find vital intelligence.” Valerie Plame Wilson
“It was not common knowledge on the Georgetown cocktail circuit that everyone knew where I worked.” Valerie Plame Wilson
Before the House Oversight Committee March 16, 2007
Have a great weekend ... you can all have fun playing tit-for-tat with the apologists for the scumbags till your eyes glaze over.
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Updates of remarks from the apologists for the scumbags will be added in the comments section here.
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A scumbag is a scumbag is a scumbag. By any other name it would stink the same (with apologies to Gertrude Stein).
Tom
March 16, 2007 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know it is endlessly amusing to point out people's hypocrisy, but there is really a deeper issue here. There are those who are paid to lie, either as part of their job (such as Tony Snow) or implicitly (such as pontificators at the National Review), but there are others who are just "true believers" and spout whatever their leaders tell them. These are the true followers. They are immune to facts which contradict their beliefs and require a strong leader as their preferred organizational structure.
The key point is that you can never win an argument with them nor change their mind. So if you want to deal with these sorts then it is better to understand them. Psychologist Robert Altemeyer has just posted a free, online book on the subject which I suggest you take a look at. His work was the basis of John Dean's recent book "Conservatives without Conscience".
The Authoritarians
--- Policies not Politics
Daily Landscape
March 16, 2007 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
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The Authoritarians? Thanks ... Read it the first week it was published.
I go back to the Stanley Milgrim and Phillip Zambardo studies...
I know what it is to be a total authoritarian ... Four years as a Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE) Instructor US Navy...
In less that 5 days our teams could induce anyone to give a way their first child.
Cruel? Yes...
Necessary? You bet...
Save lives? I'm sure it did...
~OGD~
ps: And I don't waste my precious time on reasoning with bullshitting trolling punks like the apologist above... Like I originally said, the rest of the folks 'round here can all have fun playing tit-for-tat with the apologists for the scumbags till their eyes glaze over.
March 17, 2007 4:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
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Update: March 16, 2007 (after 6:00 PM - TPM board time)
One of our finest apologists for the scumbags has begun his trolling at the Larry Johnson thread...
Isn't that all just truly precious....
That's some real positive input for furthering the discussions here at TPM Cafe.
Who's checking this clown's karma rating?
More to come ... I'm sure!
~OGD~
AND ... I SURELY WISH TO TIP MY SAILOR's CAP TO MY THREE (3) MOST FAVORITE DETRACTORS FOR RATING THIS AS NOT RECOMMENDED ... At least I know I'm pissing off the correct crowd in this forum ... you folks can go crap in your hat)
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March 17, 2007 3:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Law experts on some of the most liberal leaning shows on television state time and time again that she was not covert. It appears that the only person who claims that she was is herself in an attempt to cover her rear.
You believe only her and tell anyone who disagrees to crap in their hat. LOL!!!
It is becoming very clear why you didn't want to discuss dishonest politicians and their lies about controlling the oil companies. LOL!!!
May 5, 2007 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Talk about LOL. What planet have you been on? Are you Karl Rove?
Cheney was pissed and wanted to retaliate against Joe Wilson. What did that moron care about national security? Nothing. Cheney's sick. Don't be fooled by Republican Party talking points.
Tom
May 5, 2007 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
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Hmmmm ...
Tom ... What happened to the gate-keeper of all knowledge? Seen any other like comments recently?
I didn't realize it would take that long to read ol' Douchebag Novak's blatherin', babblin', butt-covering bullshit ...
Or just maybe, the gate-keeper of the truth is off pissing in someone else's coffee cup today... Kinda like Vicky T ...
Or most likely just one of them hit-and-run, flybys...
Oh well ....
~OGD~
ps: Speaking of Vicky T ... Looks like Ms. Counsel and apologist for the dochebag's has been too tied-up the past few weeks over at the World Bank headquarters representing Wolfowitz' main squeeze, getting Reza's story straight (ahem...) ... Seems Vicky does a lot of that...
May 7, 2007 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
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Golly gee-willikers...
Apparently you and those... "Law experts on some of the most liberal leaning shows on television..." didn't get the word on what had been stated on... March 16, 2007.
And here, just to save you time, Bob Novak's spin on his corner of reality after that hearing. Have fun trying to decipher that douchebag's line of blatherin', babblin', butt-covering bullshit.
~OGD~
ps: Now run along and call someone stupid again for demonstrating against the most blatant party-over-country bunch of wackos in the recorded history of the U.S. of A...
May 5, 2007 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
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Misplaced comment ... Sorry
~OGD~
March 17, 2007 4:15 AM | Reply | Permalink